PSA Concerning Lynn (TH) / Lynniee (DA)

Posted 7 years, 11 months ago (Edited 6 years, 10 months ago) by Vespisia

Hello. Due to the unrelenting nature of the person in question, I have decided to submit this PSA to inform the community of her behavior and actions to protect ourselves. I did not want to, but as she has continued attempting to harm people, I am submitting this to warn people to be cautious when dealing with her.

 

The issue at hand is that Lynniee (DA) / Lynn (TH) has attempted multiple times to profit in unscrupulous manners off of her characters. In fact, it appears in the past month, she has tried it several times, with one unfortunate success and two fortunate failures. Listed below are three cases with evidence compiled. The evidence is compiled in a fairly accurate manner from earliest to latest occurrence in these situations.

 

Case 1:
Lynn owns an adopt by Piku-chan21 named Shinkiro that she has tentatively put up for trade on occasion. During those times, she would throw out descriptions that it was worth around $500-600, but as people and I would eventually realize, that is not its true value. Recently, she attempted to sell Shinkiro for $1000. When people expressed their concerns that this was an inaccurate number, Lynn edited her post to ask for $500-600 instead. This was still concerning, as she would not give an actual statement as to the adopt’s true value. A day later, I was noted by an user concerned that her friend (who was discussing with Lynn via PM over Shinkiro) could possibly be getting scammed. After receiving information from her, this appeared to be the case, Lynn was trying to sell Shinkiro for $600 and sweetening the deal by offering a secondary character with him. A friend of mine investigated and we have estimated that Shinkiro’s true value is actually around $336 and it is unlikely that the second adopt would be anywhere near $200+ to make it up to $600. As such, it seems to be the case that Lynn was trying to scam the user, but thankfully it fell through and Lynn has at present time, decided to keep Shinkiro. Also of note is Piku's rule of reselling for half or less. Whether that means $336 or around $218 (half of $255 + price of comms) or lower, it is still nowhere near $400, let alone $1000.

Associated Evidence:
http://sta.sh/22642bbkqu2e?edit=1

Edit 4/22/16: Due to new information, I included a sub-folder Sta.sh with evidence of Lynn claiming the false pricing of Shinkiro to others, such a conversation with Cionkeiasta months ago. Will be updated as needed.

 

Case 2:
In another recent occurrence, Lynn attempted to sell a design by Kraikrai for $20 to Kavaro. The adopt came with the adopt file, and an artwork that was discovered to actually be free. Lynn apologized and reduced the price to $15, at which point Kavaro pointed out that Lynn had told her before it was $6 only. Lynn claimed she had never told Kavaro the price of the adopt, but there is evidence that she has in the past, and that it was indeed stated to be for $6. Contact with the artist Kraikrai by Kavaro revealed that it was indeed $15, but Lynn’s behavior in this instance has rendered the situation suspicious. Attempting to claim it was $20 for something worth $15 is inaccurate and when in the past, she had told Kavaro it was $6, even if it turned out to truly be $15, is quite the jump. Paired with her behavior concerning Shinkiro, it would make most sensible people cautious in their transactions with her.

Associated Evidence:
http://sta.sh/210rjcwjxyiq  (The discussion between Kavaro, the potential buyer, and Lynn, the seller.)
https://archive.is/tNO4V
https://archive.is/ceO9R
(Evidence of the adopt’s $6 price claim.)
(As you can see from the third link, she tried to profit from the fluffen *part of Case 3* which can only be gifted due to it being won in a free raffle.)

 

Case 3:
This is a case I discovered very recently. As can be seen in the sta.sh, Mubean was discovered to be attempting to resell the Fluffen. That Fluffen was won in a raffle by Lynn (Steamed-Bun did not link the TOS in the raffle unfortunately, but her TOS can be found easily enough with the rule very clearly stated), and can only be gifted, not traded nor sold due its nature of being freely won. Discussion with Mubean revealed that they did a sort of character trade - Mubean would send money to Lynn to help her purchase an adopt by Ocono in exchange for the Fluffen. This is essentially a sale, because it basically boiled down to “Buy this adopt for me in exchange for this one [Fluffen], and profit was gained, when the Fluffen can actually only be gifted to people or back to Steamed-Bun. Mubean attempted to resolve the matter with Lynn peacefully, asking for a refund, but as can be seen in the notes, she was steadfast in her denial that she had profited, forcing Mubean’s hand in going through with a chargeback.  
Associated Evidence:  

http://sta.sh/222dvxqqhm66?edit=1
http://steamed-bun.deviantart.com/art/CYOP-samurai-fluffen-raffle-WINNER-ANNOUNCED-512396048  The adopt in question. As can be seen, Lynn won it in a free raffle.
http://steamed-bun.deviantart.com/journal/Adoptable-Policies-426738592 

On top of these cases, Lynn has been known for expressing peculiar behavior in other matters, such as pricing of adopts, badgering people relentlessly for characters that are not up for sale, or for artists to lower their commission prices. This is not to say every character she sells has been overpriced nor every experience with her foul, but it certainly makes legitimate transactions with her hard to perform. Please take heed of the evidence compiled here and be cautious in interacting with her or avoid her entirely.

 

Thank you for your time, everyone, and have a good day.

 P.S. Also, thank you to everyone who helped me compile the evidence. Kudos to all of you, ahhh.

CionKeiasta

Yeah, I definitely find it concerning. Scamming should never be done in any circumstances.

The only thing she ever answered about is the payment plan. 

Hopefully things can work out or we find others who've been hurt by her. Sorta glad I didn't offer my money for some of the adopts

Vespisia

CionKeiasta

Yep! If it's alright with you, could I use your link to add to the evidence pile in this PSA of Lynn's behavior? It's yet more proof of her attempting to scam people. :/ I'm glad you are safe!

CionKeiasta

Yup, you're free to do so !!! I was tempted to offer money for several adopts during her emergency but I ended up not doing it because I wasn't sure what was the adopts' total values--

Vespisia

CionKeiasta

Thank you! I added the information to the evidence database. 

Rune-ko

just going to leave this here cos ..yeaaaahh its not nice

http://sta.sh/01xd1dwbndb

Vespisia

 @Xminxicat

Whoa...that's truly bad, yes. Thank you for showing this, may I add it to the evidence database, please? I'm glad you are safe and haven't been harmed by her!

Rune-ko

Vespisia yeaahh it surely is and sure go ahead~ i don't mind
Don't worry I'm perfectly fine ahah she did apologize for asking for Licht as she wasnt up for trade or anything at the time
I told her I'm mostly only interested in trading her for her Piku character and well that was her answer~
It's not like I have that much money ahhaha //shot// Thank you for worrying tho~ //blsuh

Fvhn

Just wondering has Lynn come forward to offer any explanation for her actions? 

Ansel

Wow, good detective work here!

I remember seeing Case #2 roll-out. I remember seeing those posts in person. I thought it was weird for the different prices.

Vespisia

@xminxicat

Thank you, I've added it to the sta.sh. Lynn does tend to ask for characters not up for trade or sale (it's happened to some of my friends), I'm glad it went well for you though, and that you're ok! //hugs

@Araneko  
@Emmerynn  Thank you to the two of you for the bumps!

@Fehnryr
She has not come forth with a reason since the PSA's post. She did mention when trying to sell Shinkiro that she was in high need of money. Regardless though, no reason can excuse her attempting to scam for hundreds off of one adopt, and managing to scam someone else for $110 on another character.

Venice

(Nice name! :D) Thank you, I couldn't have done it without people allowing me to use their screenshots. Hopefully, the community is aware of Lynn's behavior after this, and no one is hurt.  

Ansel

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lillywise

bumping this b/c reasons e _ e