Bump.
Hello!
8/9: New PSA added.
5/14: 2 new PSAs added.
4/8: New PSA posted and additional information on Squidribs added to relevant PSA.
It was suggested that there should perhaps be a general thread for PSAs which is a fine idea. A place that links to other PSAs and keep things organized.
You can link your threads/PSAs/etc, and I'll add them to the posts. :D
Please Note: I can only accept public PSAs. Anon PSAs are too much of a risk to accept, as they can be open to slander.
Things That Count for PSAs!
-Scams
-Illegally chargebacked (you did a commission, but person claims you never did, for instance)
-Being shifty on doing owed things (taking months on an icon for example, lack of contact or updates, etc)
-Tracing and profiting off of it...
-Etc...
Things That Don't Count!
-Someone has better art than you
-Rude behavior
-Subjective issues
-Dog ate your homework
Obviously, this is just the basic frame work. Each case is different. For instance, someone could go around harassing artists for art and customs, or for people to give up their adopts and whatnot, and that could almost certainly be considered for a PSA...
Of course, it would be great if no more PSAs occur, but in the case they do, I support people posting them because they keep the community safe and will link to them in this general thread. owo/
There'll be two posts, one for PSAs and one for resolved cases! ^^
I have a PSA to add: http://toyhou.se/~forums/thread/34934.psa-about-multiple-users/1
Cawfee Thank you for the bump and apologies for the delay, it's been added!
Jayden I've added your PSA to this thread, I hope this artist stops this behavior, it's poor professionalism and work ethic...:c
@delquaza @overlordpotato Ikayuro
Thank you for the bumps. <3
I've added your PSA and just...wow. Thanks for letting the community know. '_'
At least one of the users was blatantly caught lying about having no involvement in the ownership switching. If they can lie about that and still not fess up to it then what's to say they won't try to pull the same thing with a traded character that they want back? It's a very shady thing to pull and if they are able to do that to an ex fiance then I doubt they would have no problem doing so to a person they do not know if they really wanted to.
And it is illegal. At first the designs (one of which was paid for, by Ent using money that Midnight gave him) were stolen and they had not planned on giving him anything in return. He only got a refund because he wouldn't let it die. The pair had no intention of giving back money for the design that was at least paid for, the the owner of the species had to.
Hello. The purpose of this thread is to gather PSAs that have been brought to my awareness.
Concerning legitimacy, this PSA is unfortunately legitimate. There is indeed an honor system, and in that honor system, there must be respect for both those who create adopts and those who own them. Taking back a gifted design is not illegal true, but is very unethical and cruel, particularly for no other reason than a spat between former friends and fiances.
Indeed, perhaps there's too much focus on personal matters in the PSA, but that does not deny that the gifted design was wrongly taken back, and the same applies to the Kindling design. Whether it is a gift or a purchase, you cannot take back designs. In a more broad sense, you cannot take back gifts or people's possessions, whether or not you had a falling-out with the people, this is considered rude in everyday life and applies here too.
As such, the PSA is legitimate due to the fact that it shows an adopt creator is willing to confiscate designs that rightfully belong to someone and because it shows that there are two people, one who prominently sells and trades adopts, are willing to steal, yes, steal, designs that are not theirs. That is not good, and is something the community must be aware of to protect themselves.
just gonna drop in and say--- I think the two of them do deserve to be in the PSA, seeing as at least one of them lied to HoneyKing, saying they had not been able to get in contact with Entropic, in order to gain control of the designs.
If one of them are innocent in this, they should come forward with evidence.
If the adopt creator is fine with this, that is all the more reason to avoid HoneyKing, as it is clear that they do not respect people. However, the same still applies to the other two. They should have not done this. You do not go to someone and complain to them to make someone else give back a design/item/thing they own because you are upset with that person. It sucks that everyone had a falling-out, but it does not excuse this behavior where they went to HoneyKing to take designs away from the rightful owner. It is a sign of unscrupulous behavior. Again, you wouldn't be able to take back gifts in real life, and the same applies here too, it is entirely rude. There needs to be maturity here, but it's lacking from a multitude of sides, unfortunately.
That is why all three are included in this PSA. They have no qualms for taking things they do not own, and gifts do apply. They absolutely apply. You said no one likes it when a gift is taken back, and that is right, no one likes it, and it's the epitome of shitty (excuse my language) rudeness. HoneyKing may have given permission for the two to do so, but they do share blame in this, because they went to HoneyKing to initiate this. Hiding behind blaming HoneyKing entirely would make this inaccurate, when there was unscrupulous activity from three different people.
In what world does someone think it's ok to go to a giftee and ask for the gift back because they're unhappy with the other person? Maybe if there was a legitimate reason, but having a falling-out is not one such reason. Those designs were in the hands of one person, and not shared between the people, like in say, a divorce, when a couple might have to figure out how to split possessions. Even then, gifts that clearly belong to one or the other person in the couple are not going to be taken by the other without raising eyebrows.
There have been people I've gifted designs to that have angered me, but I am not going to go and take the designs back because I'm upset. That is improper. I've given that design away, and have no right to it, and being upset is not reason enough. The three were highly immature in their handling of this situation and their upset with the PSA maker.
Sugaryacid As Delquaza said, if they want to prove their innocence, there needs to be evidence, and then the onus will fall on the PSA maker. Otherwise, there is right now a supply of evidence showing that the three are highly disrespectful to others and their designs and thus the PSA will stand until further evidence either further clears it or disproves it.