2-in-1 or Surface pro alternatives?

Posted 4 years, 10 months ago (Edited 4 years, 9 months ago) by Rain-G

EDIT 2: Okay so, WACOM mobilestudio pro will cost me an arm and a leg but -- I'll take that over an ipad lmao. Anybody with experience with this device?
EDIT: would love to hear how the samsung, lenovo or HP 2-in-1s perform too, if anyone has experience with them.
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Hey there! So I work with a laptop and screen display tablet combo at the moment but I do go out alot and want to draw digitally on the go without the hassle of bringing both equipment. I'd really love to save up for a 2-in-1 laptop. I know the surface pro line is great but thats just as expensive as an ipad. ( and I dont plan on getting the latter )

So any recommendations for alternatives?
How does the pen feel? Any wobble on the lines and are the colours great on screen?
How light is it? and heating -- does the device go warm or boiling hot?

Thanks in advance!

If anyone's wondering why I'm not considering an ipad, its because I need something that runs programs not apps + a fast processor for my programs to work ( clip studio and paint tool sai ) properly and I use huge canvass sizes, but feel free to change my mind!

dray

Agreed with the matte screen protector (IF you prefer traditional art, like pencil scritching. That's the main reason to go with it.)

Sorry I can't help with the rest! I'm seriously desktop bound for screen tablets and use a traditional sketchbook when on the go.

jukeboxes

When I went out shopping for a laptop I could type and draw with, I almost got a surface pro, but my parents convinced me to get a Lenovo Yoga 720 instead... it’s one of those 2 in 1 ‘tablet but also a laptop’ kind of deals. 

Honestly, I don’t know what I was thinking when I bought that thing. In order to draw on the screen you need a Wacom Bamboo pen (which takes AAAA batteries; when my first battery ran out of juice, they didn’t have AAAA in any nearby stores and we eventually just had to order new batteries online). The pen itself works alright, but the screen to the tablet does not have an pen pressure at all really. It’s obvious that the writing on the screen feature was made for taking notes, not for actually drawing. 

So yeah. I haven’t drawn on the actual screen of the thing in about a year (so maybe it’s changed ? But I doubt it), I just ended up using my 2 year old Wacom Intuos Pro with it, which works like a charm. The laptop itself is good with handling art programs (CSP has never crashed on me at all for instance), but I wouldn’t recommend actually drawing on its screen, especially since it gets confused in the art programs if you’re doing just that.

(I also use a parent’s old iPad with procreate and an Apple Pencil to draw when I’m on vacation. It works just fine, but I do have a few nitpicks with the program, and drawing on my Wacom overall just feels better to me, with an overall better result... but maybe that’s just from my experience.)

Rain-G

ampers-nd

ooh, thanks for sharing! if I may ask what are your nitpicks on procreate?

jukeboxes

Rain-G 

Oh, they're probably little problems I have with it because of my former experience/training with digital art. At first it felt really strange to draw with Procreate, since I'm much more used to the hand-eye coordination of drawing with an Intuos, looking at the screen instead of where my hand is drawing. I have gotten more used to Procreate since my last post on this thread, but there are a few things that make it harder to complete the same kind of illustration I usually do-

Namely, Procreate doesn't have Stabilization- instead, it has something called Streamline. They're not too different from each other in the sense that they both smooth your lines out for you, but it's pretty clear to see that Streamline works much more efficiently with calligraphy, as opposed to using it with linework. The Streamline feature smoothes your lines but also straightens them slightly, which makes it considerably more difficult for me to obtain the same quality of lineart that I usually can achieve in CSP.

And this one is kind of weird to explain, but the final product of artwork on Procreate just doesn't feel the same to me as it usually does? Of course, with the different program setup and brushes this would make sense, but even after my transition from Medibang to CSP the finished product didn't FEEL like there was much of a significant change. I'm sure it's just something you need to get used to, though- what with the Streamline, completely different brushes, etc.

I do have to say that Procreate's default brush sets are very nice, however- so nice that when I eventually was able to return to using CSP, I wished I could be able to import the Procreate brushes into CSP. And as far as I've seen, it's not difficult at all to download other people's custom-made brushes onto Procreate, and for a reasonably low price, at that.

That's just my experience, though! I'm sure it's different for everyone. I probably won't be returning to Procreate anytime soon, although it does feel incredibly nice to sketch with that pencil tool, lol.

mozaik

honestly i was looking into this a while back and ended up feeling deeply disenfranchised with the concept jdjdjdj,, its one of those nice in theory, not so great in application things. ive seen other art students who love thr ipad pencil thing but personally my hatred of apple products overrules everything else fjfjfn

common complaints abt cintiq companion (ie normal tablet that is also a Tablet) is 1. shit battery life and 2. not very portable and if anything,  more inconvenient due to fragility issues and wacoms trademark nest of cables //pensive

im out n about a bit less nowadays so i dont do it anymore, but a light pen tablet with no display and decently lightweight laptop was the best solution for me o:

gl with this endeavor!!