nagitok the general rule of thumb is, if it is 70% your original creation, it's typically ok. same personality and name are completely fine. it would only be against the rules if it had a majority of naruto's make-up, since it would be a copy of an existing canon. you should be ok if you keep that rule of 70/30 in mind
EDIT: Since no one is suggesting any sort of actual... resolution, or constructive criticism of any kind, and just arguing for the sake of arguing, i'm going to lock this thread.
Here's some suggestions on what i'd change to the policy, for the admin :
1. Add a clause that canon characters that have been changed in visual & backstory design 70/30 can be allowed, since people do like to develop canon characters to an extreme degree sometimes so much so that they become an ""OC"" in a sense.
2. All art on their profile MUST be art you've drawn or art drawn for you, it cannot be official artwork or just random fanart you've found and uploaded without permission
3. Profile must include some information about distinctions / developments that make them your unique project, to explain how they're not just a mirror of a canon character
4. You must explicitly credit the original copyright to the holder of the canon character (such as marvel, blizzard, etc)
5. They must be marked as never to be traded, sold, etc
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"We no longer host the following characters: Re-uploads of canon characters (eg. please do not upload a profile to store official artwork or fanart/fanfic of Naruto, including AUs or altered designs who share the same name, personality and identity with the canon character)"
I know what it was initially targeting, after some digging, which was galleries filled with icons of "kin characters" and nothing else, which from a server management side amounts to nothing more than spam.
But in this sweeping rule, it also targets people who mean genuinely well, world builders role players, writers, genuinely creative people who have taken canon characters and have completely transformed them into something vastly different than the original canon media, so much so that documenting them on a website like this is the only way to really tell the world about them. This is the exact thing I do with my spouse, in the media "Transformers" and "Unreal Tournament". You wouldn't even be able to recognize the characters with their canon selves anymore after, in same cases, over a decade in development, but because they fall under this rule because they share the same name as the canon character, we wouldn't be able to keep their profiles on toyhouse.
We're not the only people to do this. Rewriting canon and further evolving existing universes is a really fun activity for world building hobbyists. This is why I like this website and have paid for premium, I feel this website has been a great place to store characters and and sort them into their various universes so I can sort my head straight when I talk to others about them. It's been one of the most well run and versitile online spaces for my purposes of a world builder and to see one of my specific hobbies shot down like this is really heart-breaking.
My husband and I grouse -- if he had filled out the profiles thoroughly, these would be targeted for the takedown of the new rule, because both these characters are AUs of Xan Kriegor
They both ARE Xan Kriegor, not designed to look like Xan Kriegor or pretending to be Xan Kriegor or inspired by Xan Kriegor, they Are Xan Kriegor, in name, story, and universe.
https://unreal.fandom.com/wiki/Xan_Kriegor
iHolli What does having a canon image as an icon have to do with uploading and claiming canon characters as your own? What is the point here....?
Honestly, there's way too much hostility in these types of threads. We get you're frustrated, we get these rules feel unfair, but they're implemented for a reason. You're free to host your characters elsewhere, where that is is on you to find. There's a reason they aren't widely accepted as OCs...
Except user icons have nothing to do with uploaded and owned characters?
Oi vey, gotta feel for the admins, help desk must be a nightmare right now if the forums are like this...
I had to unsubscribe from my own dang thread because everyone is bad faithing left and right, not willing to empathize with one another or trying to consider why others would be legitimately put off by the rules. Literally all we wanted was more clarification on some very vague rules meant to reduce spam that was potentially alienating otherwise harmless users who are using the site for its intent, character art & profile hosting.
lillywise has a very good point, 70/30 rule. Xan's xan is like 90/10 at this point, considering the original Xan Kriegor has like little to no actual backstory and the world building he has done for him is so absolutely indepth and insane at this point, and the multiple visual designs look very little like the original game designs.
Shinsou i feel just as bad for the admins.
Not sure if I'd support this as an actual suggestion, but how would people feel about adding functionality to support canon characters? Maybe like a new character type that clearly states them to be canon characters and shows what character/franchise they're inspired by and stuff, to avoid the mess regarding ownership and claiming dekudogs as their own personal character. I feel it's a middle ground that may potentially be viable, but idk if it's something the rest of the userbase is interested in or willing to tolerate.
It might be useful for those who want to share their kins or canons for RP/fic purposes. I'd use it for that - since my kinsonas and RP characters are just different enough that "here's the link to their Wiki" doesn't really cover them.
So I'd say only if the canons with pages are different, and not just fanart galleries with no changes.
Also, I want to apologise if I've in any way caused trouble. I'm just confused lol.
Anyway since no one is suggesting any sort of actual... resolution, or constructive criticism of any kind, and just arguing for the sake of arguing, i'm going to lock this thread.
Here's some suggestions on what i'd change to the policy, for the admin :
1. Add a clause that canon characters that have been changed in visual & backstory design 70/30 can be allowed, since people do like to develop canon characters to an extreme degree sometimes so much so that they become an ""OC"" in a sense.
2. All art on their profile MUST be art you've drawn or art drawn for you, it cannot be official artwork or just random fanart you've found and uploaded without permission
3. Profile must include some information about distinctions / developments that make them your unique project, to explain how they're not just a mirror of a canon character
4. You must explicitly credit the original copyright to the holder of the canon character (such as marvel, blizzard, etc)
5. They must be marked as never to be traded, sold, etc