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// These are still a wip and subject to change, just noting for reference //
// Also some of these might be copypasted without context and seem confusing, sry //
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Cloneclone - 03/15/2017
Lenus -> Water (Fishers, sometimes Crafters)
Yvonne -> Air (Weavers)
Raziel -> Earth (Crafters, Dashers, Sweepers)
Basut -> tumut (Shooters)
Hyth -> Life, life, day, honor, magic (Eaters)
Helgin -> Death, night, hunt, justice, protection (Robbers)
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Yvonne: Sky, storms, natural disasters, lighthearted pranks, celebrations, neutrality, art music, diplomacy, peace, children, weddings, innocence, death. Weavers Dashers
Hylcinth: Day, modesty, asexuality, energy, compassion, empathy, persistence, flowers, gems, jewels, extravagance, generosity, patience, listening, motherly love, forgiveneess, acceptence hospitality, eaters.(edited)
Helgin: justice, secuality, devotion, creativity, recklessness, passion, celebration, tough love, seduction, fatherly love, indulgence, vengeance, ammends, [[that last one evads me oops] night and exadperation
Raziel: Earth, liquor, creativity, steady hospitality, fire and earth, resolve, determination, lawfulness, healthy body, jovial spirits, violent anger, masculinity, monogomany, ignorance, stubborness, feasts. Crafters Dashers Eaters Sweepers
Lenus: Sea, competition, pettineess, narcissims, life, turmoil, sportsmanship fair play, jealousy, beauty, seduction, passive aggression, femininity, loyalty, bonds(referring to the former two), freedom, honesty, clearing air, sports, change. Crafters fishers sweepers
omg I actually thought it said clearing air but was like "itchy wtf does this even mean" XD
Basut: The scorned Child. Mischeif, ill will, conniving, stealing, murder, cheating, chaos.
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>Afterlife: In death, Yvonne plays the role of reaper, and brings the soul of the dead before the gods.
When a good StarDragon dies, another star twinkles in the sky, and they join Hyth in the heavens.
However, if a bad StarDragon dies, they face Helgin. Unlike our concept of heaven and hell, the StarDragons do not have a hell, but rather a 'spirit world'. They're put to work 'tending' to the planet. Assisting Lenus, Raziel, and Yvonne, be it causing the wind to blow, helping the plants grow, making the waves ebb and flow. In short, manual labor to repent for their sins, where they eventually do enough to be given forgiveness, and go to heaven. Though, regardless of working off their sins and being sent to heaven, a star does not form in the sky for them. They join their brethen in heaven, but do not get the honor of having a star as their own.
Ghosts?
While there is the 'spirit world', not all spirits are bad. Unlike Helgin, raising the dead to become Robbers, when Hyth tries her hand at the same, they become ghosts of their former selves, rather than the species known as StarRobbers. They keep their former appearance, just hold a more ghostly visage, and possibly the wounds that caused their deaths. This generally happens when someone dies with unfinished business, rather than seeking justice or vengeance for a wrongful death. More something along the lines of, dying after an argument and never being able to make amends, dying just before/just after a marriage, or having some sort of unfinished business. Sometimes the StarDragon can turn destructive, letting their frustrations rule them and instead of seeking peace, they instead turn to violence and thus poltergeist activities ensue. This doesn't entirely rob them from having their own star in the sky, but might lead to remaining a ghost for quite some time
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[Basut] He'd be the youngest since
Helgin/Hyth came first
Lenus/Yvonne/Raziel came second
7 StarDragons came after which eventually Shooter was made into a deity along with the other three, so he's the younglin
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Cloneclone - 05/28/2017
Once upon a time, the first Shooter was angry with the Gods for taking the magic he believed he deserved. He may have been blessed with being the most 'cunning' of all StarDragons, but it was power he wanted. He lashed out at the Weaver and they fought, which ended in the death of the Weaver- the first death in StarDragon history.
Hyth was devistated, Helgin was LIVID, and Helgin pretty much brought hell down on Basut's head.
Hyth stopped Helgin from killing Basut because no, I can't handle another one of my children dying, etcetc.
Helgin said fine, and made Basut a deity, giving him his magic in the process, and making it so no other StarShooter would have magic. ...While also locking Basut away. You get your magic, but you can't use it.
He was on his little pluto scary moon for the longest time but has finally managed to get out.
He's the reason for the Severblight (Basically big bad zombie outbreak with the Robbers)
Also the reason for the rare trait Shooters can get that gives them those magic arms
Probably the reason for a few other bad things here and there that I can't remember
So Shooters can either hate him and be like 'it's your fault for us not having magic', or more like 'You lashed out at the gods for us, thank you for your attempts for justice' idk
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Ambaaargh/Mabs - 06/01/2017
Lore shit Ivoryhelm origin shit! (((NOTE: OUTDATED but cute)))
Basically Lenus and Raziel were arguing because both had a project they wanted Yvonne's help with but wanted to go before the other sibling. So Yvonne proposed an idea. They'd set up a challenge and if either of the two could best it, the other side would have to relent and she'd help the winner with their project first. But if neither of them could best it, then they would have to help her on a project of her own. Both of them.
So they agreed. And Yvonne led them to this large vase/bowl/something filled with something (water?Rocks?Wine?) and was like "whoever can get this vase to the top of that hillside wins" Raziel scoffs and is liek "omg easy peasy" and goes to try to hoist it up since he's the strongest...but...its too heavy. After straining and fussing...he relents. Lenus laughs and tells him he's too direct and the OBVIOUS solution was to use ice to make the path slippery so it can be slid. But...the bottom of the bowl is too smooth and she finds herself unable to keep control of the thing while moving it around.
Yvonne is about to declare winner when the other two are like "wait. This is unfair to put up an impossible task Yvonne. You need to take the vase up to the top of the hill!" and Yvonne is like "I need to take the vase up to the top?" and they're like "yes!" So...she shatters the vase, spilling the contents. As she starts picking up the pieces Raziel and Lenus are like "why did you do that?!" and Yvonne was like "I never said I needed the contents. Or that I needed the vase in one piece. Or that it needed to be done in one trip."
Raziel and Lenus were displeased, but a bet was a bet...so they offered their aid to Yvonne's project. Which was how Ivoryhelm came to be. Some even say if you look along the outer edges underneath the city you can see the filigree engravings on the rockface that once made up the fragments of the very bowl Yvnonne recrafted together atop that mountain to make the city.
(Its a random idea, and partially rips off an old generic proverb tale. But what myth fables aren't 80% that) Inversely it could be a case that Yvonne simply pours out the contents before picking up the vase and carrying it up. ///outdated end
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Ambaaargh/Mabs - 06/26/2017
Like I was working on a myth for Ivoryhelm regarding the dragon kid trio. It can definitely work into a thing where each of them wanted to make a city of sorts. With the other two giving some aid to make it work. Like Ivoryhelm was gonna be Yvonne's baby so she put more into it thus letting it fly. Raziel made it so the rocks wouldn't crumble apart and would be solid. And Lenus made it so water originates from a spot in it giving it a water supply.
Inversely, if we did go more migrating route for this one, it could be maybe some kind of giant snail-like thing with shells or whatnot and when it submurges Yvonne's assist is that there is air inside the domes/shells that renew. Maybe Raziel's part involves fortifying the structures so they can withstand both the erosion and the water pressure. And Lenus supplied the critter itself.
(a lot of these ideas are half-formed and tired. please forgive XD)
Ambaaargh/Mabs - 06/26/2017
A thing I was thinking of doing with the cities was the ones in charge of the city are basically favorites of the dragon god of their calling. Like Ivoryhelm has weavers. Caldera likely would have fishers, and the Caravan city not yet named would be Dashers.
Not only as sort of a ruling group of the city but because they got a gift from their patron. Like Ivoryhelm normally migrates at its own pace...sometimes stopping to land in a spot for weeks. Sometimes a couple months. Sometimes like 2 days LOL its fickle. But the weavers in charge do a means in which they can kind of nudge it to move/stay put...though its very taxing on them to do so. But in time of emergency they can be like "get this island off the ground ASAP 8I"
Caldera will likely have something similar if we go that route, with the leaders of it able to tell the critter to submerge/surface/steer it.
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Ambaaargh/Mabs - 07/05/2017
I admit I don't know how big they gonna be either just yet. :'D I know Yvonne's was the biggest, which is why it can house an entire decent sized city. Lenus is second largest but is ocean-based. And Raziel's is technically the smallest of the three but still pretty honking huge. :Y
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Ambaaargh/Mabs - Yesterday at 11:15 AM
One thing I was gonna say is we should grab the maps and actually make a lil "migration path(s)" for the cities. :D Sort of like "main migration path" with a couple deviant routes. And a few spots where they sometimes stick around for a bit longer than others. As well as a lore fluff legend for each one. I was thinking it was a thing of each kid got to pick a turtle for their city. Raziel and Lenus kind of squabbled to get the biggest turtle...ended up accidently killing one. Lenus won and Raziel felt bad so he let Yvonne go second cause he didnt feel right her ending up with a dead turtle...but Yvonne picked the dead one and gave Raziel the smallest but still living one.
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Ambaaargh/Mabs - Yesterday at 11:29 AM
But yeah. Ivoryhelm: Yvonnnes gift was that it can well...freaking fly. >:U Raziel made it so the ground on there would always be fertile and produce crops. Lenus made it so there was a renewable water source. (I like the idea of lil waterfalls coming off the side as it floats) Would be the second biggest city I figure.
Ambaaargh/Mabs - Yesterday at 11:34 AM
I was prolly gonna brainstorm folks about island aethetic. Like should it look like rocks grown ontop a shell or should it keep a turtleshell look. Open holes with water coming out or sealed up like the shell is closed? Hollow on the inside or filled with catacombs and dirt?
Ambaaargh/Mabs - Yesterday at 11:35 AM
I do like the idea of other lil island bits floating along with it. Broken off shell fragments that have become their own teeny islands? I do kind of like the idea that the deep inner part of the island is just this crazy network of passages and catacombs.
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Ambaaargh/Mabs - Yesterday at 11:42 AM
I know another thing with the islands is A: they have a baller "in case of emergency" defense option the gods gave them and B: there are descendants of the founding families who were initially tasked to watch over these cities who have a smol degree of control.
Yvonnes is the worst cause even though it doesn't have a mind of its own...it kind of really does. Was thinking it will have the most alternate paths. Sometimes it doesnt even want to touch down in the place it normally would next. Sometimes it touches down for like...3 days. Other times it may park there for 2 months. Its a very capricious island. >:U
C♦rro - Yesterday at 11:43 AM
GOOD ISLAND best. Eats the local vegetation. Waterfalls off the sides means if it passed over another city, it's downpours for the day
Ambaaargh/Mabs - Yesterday at 11:46 AM
P much. The weavers who do have some sway on it...its more like they have a manner to commune with the spirit of the island and kind of get an empathetic vibe off it...so they can at least estimate what it is up to and how long it is going to be staying aground and such. In some cases they can try to like force-nudge it to stay/go...but that is really taxing on the weaver and could even kill em if pushed too hard/fast. So its not something they really try to do unless its like dire.
Defense wise, Yvonne's island gets to bring down the lightning literally. Similarly, the weavers in charge can have the island create a storm vortext around it...kind of whirlwind with the island in the eye of it and just lightning and heavy rains and winds that just shred anything in the sky around it. But same as above...really bad for the one activating it. I was thinking Lenus will be able to create a whirlpool vortex around it, wrecking ships and vessels around it as a storm goes. And Raziel's can create sandstorms and fire.
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Cloneclone - 05/12/2017
Yvonne is a diety :0 Like Lenus and Raziel
Unless this is another Yvonne
But they're the diety the Weavers usually praise
Ambaaargh/Mabs - 05/12/2017
Yeah. Granted I wouldn't be surprised if some durgs name their kids varients of the gods names. XD
Cloneclone - 05/12/2017
Like Crafters/Dashers/Sweepers praise Raziel, and Crafters/Fishers praise Lenus And Eaters to Hyth, Robbers to Helgin
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Cloneclone - 03/15/2017
Raziel/Lenus are probably assholes but they're not bad. The new god is a massive asshole. Still trying to push for him just being an impish fucker but Itchy keeps coming up with new ideas so not going to go much into him anymore until we put stuff in stone
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Cloneclone - 03/13/2017
And since Crafters are usually buddies with Fishers, the arctic Crafters worship Lenus, the water goddess
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Cloneclone - 02/25/2017
Okay dumb idea maybe but going off of Raziel temper tantrum and the fact he and Lenus got into fights occasionally meanwhile Yvonne was sitting in the back painting stars and shit
Since (I think this was discussed not in here?) we mused over the idea of arctic Crafters being closer to LEnus to allow them to be in cold water, living easily in one extreme rather than the other extreme (MAHGMAH)
Fishers that handle the underwater volcanos and boiling water
Itchy Bitchy 2by4 - 02/25/2017
i like this also because lenus needs more followers
Clover (DiceDumpling) - 02/25/2017
Lenus: SOMEONE LOVE ME
Cloneclone - 02/25/2017
Raziel and Lenus getting into fights and the Crafters/Fishers switching a lot
Itchy Bitchy 2by4 - 02/25/2017
part of the reason they're so into competition!
the brother and sister are so competitive
Cloneclone - 02/25/2017
Sweepers/Dashers: :D Pay attention to us
Raziel: ONE SEC FIST FIGHTING MY SISTER
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Cloneclone - Last Saturday at 12:58 AM
Yvonne and Basut - Trickster games
Ambaaargh/Mabs - Last Saturday at 12:58 AM
As a prankster god, Yvonne would probably fall more into capricious jokes and whimsical "lets make things interesting" and would be an example of a chaotic good diety. Were as Basut is likely more on chaotic evil "I want to fuck this world up yo"
Itchy Bitchy 2by4 - Last Saturday at 12:59 AM
chaotic neutral vs chaotic evil
pulling pranks together
Itchy Bitchy 2by4 - Last Saturday at 1:00 AM
yvonne: hes p chill even if he did try to murder me and steal my power
Ambaaargh/Mabs - Last Saturday at 1:03 AM
But yeah. While Helgin is a god of justice and likely law...I wouldn't say he's a god to represent the cosmic forces of law in the universe. But that similar to how Yvonne would be more chaotic...Helgin is more lawful. There doesn't need to be a chaos god much like there doesn't need to be a law god. The SD Pantheon is based more on the elements if anything. Day/Night Earth/Sea/Sky Assholes
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Ambaaargh/Mabs - 06/11/2017
[Raziel] I toy with the idea of his actual dragon form being actually kind of tiny. Like smol. Overcompensates.
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CharoChaos - 06/02/2017
... random question
do the SD gods ever, like.. communicate with their beebs?
Cloneclone - 06/02/2017
I was thinking about that and mulling over it
Cloneclone - 06/02/2017
Cause I personally wanted them to once upon a time be really involved, then pull back. But take on stardragon forms to walk among their children in incognito
CharoChaos - 06/02/2017
of course now i'm imagining, like. helgin having a little chat with the soul of some poor dead derg while he's putting their robber body together
Cloneclone - 06/02/2017
Not sure what the others want tho
Oh yeah he'd definitely converse with the Robbers tho. You're dead, Yvonne brings your soul to mom and dad
they figure out what to do with you from there
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CharoChaos - 06/02/2017
dergs who died young, very young, like children, but in a way that would normally constitute being robber-ified
would helgin do the thing? if he did, would they be a smol robber? or just an average robber?
Ambaaargh/Mabs - 06/02/2017
Well I know theres a thing where kids arent allowed to become robbers
Cloneclone - 06/02/2017
Ryn is against that but personally >> I don't mind
CharoChaos - 06/02/2017
aaahhhhh i see!
Ambaaargh/Mabs - 06/02/2017
Basically Hylth put her tiny foot down and was like "no kid robbers"
Cloneclone - 06/02/2017
Helgin might do a few tho when she's not looking <<
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Ambaaargh/Mabs - 05/28/2017
There. Sweepers have both bug and feathers cause Lenus and Raziel cannot agree
Raziel is like "BUG WINGS" and Lenus is like "FEATHERS >:C"
Cloneclone - 05/28/2017
That's what I argued
And they're getting some bug traits
Ambaaargh/Mabs - 05/28/2017
I just like the idea of Raziel holding a jar of beetles and side eyeing crafters all sweats
C♦rro - 05/28/2017
They got into an arts and crafts war with the glue, and everything just stuck
Itchy Bitchy 2by4 - 05/28/2017
I really really enjoy making this a raziel/lenus canon argument
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Cloneclone - 03/22/2017
Yvonne drags the dead SD to the gods to be judged. Helgin makes those who should be Robbers, Robbers. Hyth occasionally tries to do his job and thus.... ghosts. They look like their past self, just see through and such.
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Cloneclone - 02/25/2017
Hyth: Raziel set several Crafters on fire
Helgin: Yeah but like... they look cool now.
And thus how legendary Crafters came to be
Itchy Bitchy 2by4 - 02/25/2017
Helgin: you need to be proud and encourage art projects
Hylth: ON!!! FIRE!!!!
Clover (DiceDumpling) - 02/25/2017
Meanwhile the new god just accidentally tainted an entire new generation of shooters. WHOOOOOOPS JUST for existing
He didn't even do anything
Cloneclone - 02/25/2017
Hyth: I DO ENDORSE CREATIVITY, LOOK AT YVONNE, THEY PAINTED THE SKY PRETTY
Helgin: Oh so it's okay for Yvonne to paint the sky but the moment we start setting people on fire theres an issue
Cloneclone - 02/25/2017
Basut: In my defense children are fucking batshit I didn't do this, stop worshipping me, oh god why this, how could this happen to meeee, I've made my missnaaakes.
Rockdad - 02/25/2017
'But we set the fireproof ones on fire'
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Halloween - 06/28/2017
Lollipop chainsaw robber
Shrug-viperdad - 06/28/2017
In soft pastels
rooty - 06/28/2017
that one time Helgrin let Hylth make a robber
Cloneclone - 06/28/2017
Hyth: ...Art :D!
Helgin: QAQ I'm... so proud....
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Cloneclone - 06/19/2017
It all depends on how the story was spun.
Hyth + Helgin believes the Shooters didn't need magic and Basut spoke out against how unfair that was and was punished for wanting to be given what he deserves Hyth + Helgin gave everyone else magic and not Shooters because Shooters were too cunning and it'd only be fair to even the playing field. But Basut was selfish and filled with anger and murdered his brethren in response, being the true robber of the Shooter's magic
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Cloneclone - 06/19/2017
Beni can fight the gods, dunno how far they'd get but they can try!
Don't think the gods would fight back
Itchy Bitchy 2by4 - 06/19/2017
hylth would cry
Cloneclone - 06/19/2017
unless they're bored and want to humor the occasional SD
Helgin would murder
Itchy Bitchy 2by4 - 06/19/2017
;; why
dont make mom cry
Cloneclone - 06/19/2017
REARS BACK AND SNARLS LIKE AN ANGERED SNAKE
Itchy Bitchy 2by4 - 06/19/2017
helgin: im not mad
hylth: -sniffl-
helgin: WHO HURT YOU WHERE IS HE
Cloneclone - 06/19/2017
Hyth: Don't hurt them :"<
Helgin: They made you cry tho they need to be torn assunder. I will take their star from them, I will put them to work tending to the volcanos, I will peel the blistering skin from their hide, I will pick my teeth with their bones
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Cloneclone - 06/03/2017
Helgin helped make Dashers, they turn into kelpie dashers
He also created the skeleton look on Crafters
Cloneclone - 06/19/2017
Itchy: Talks about subspecies
Me: ....And then Helgin made deepsea Fishers. And then he made vulture Sweepers. And then he made kelpie Dashers. And then he made--
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Cloneclone - 06/12/2017
Robbers cannot be affected by necromancer magic because that's OP and helgin probably keeps it from being a thing
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Coco - 05/30/2017
i swear to god someone has to get a legendary robber for me to drool over soon
i love the wording too
this...artistic gift
sounds like someone forgot to take helgins toys away
Rudjé - 05/30/2017
""""""""artistic"""""""
Coco - 05/30/2017
"shit he made an abomination...again...fuck damn it"
Rudjé - 05/30/2017
dragon dad plz
Cloneclone - 05/30/2017
Helgin: They're not abominations, it's cool. I'M HIP.
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Cloneclone - 04/24/2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-koZBg0iOrw Helgin and Hyth with their StarDragon babies
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Cloneclone - 04/19/2017
Hyth: I feel like whatever you touch turns evil
Helgin: Yeah I'm starting to see that now
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Cloneclone - 03/20/2017
Helgin: The risk I took was calculated but man, I'm bad at math.
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Cloneclone - 03/20/2017
Laughs because Ryn wrote
"Furthermore, Helgin would never do something so cruel as to subject a child to undeath. All Starrobbers are adults."
And I was kinda like, 'wellllll.....' and Ryn made >:( faces at me
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Ambaaargh/Mabs - 03/17/2017
Someone gearing up for war, just before they announce it they get a vision of Hylth shedding a single tear. Instantly feels regret and abandons whole plan.
Cloneclone - 03/17/2017
Shrugemoji: DO IT ANYWAY
Helgin: I'm sure there's justice in there somewhere, go for it kids
Hyth: -Water sprays Helgin-
Helgin: I LIED DONT DO IT
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cuddlycuttlefish - 07/04/2017
also lol with the dicks being different I just pictured Hylcinth like "Uhhhh idc what this part looks like" and Helgin like
GETS OUT THE GLUE AND MACARONI I'MMA MAKE SOME ART
Thelittlehamst★r - 07/04/2017
helgin : ¨plays with clay I MADE A DICK
Ambaaargh/Mabs - 07/04/2017
omg
cuddlycuttlefish - 07/04/2017
helgin: makes 20 MORE DICKS LOOK :D
Ambaaargh/Mabs - 07/04/2017
Craft project with the kids
Lenus: Haha mines cooler I gave them two. uwu
Raziel: Oh yeah well mine has a little flipper thing on it! >:c
Yvonne: swirly patterns everywhere
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Gin - Today at 10:42 PM
im trying to think of a situation were "by yvonne's breath" would be used, maybe like, watching a storm roll in o uo
Itchy Bitchy 2by4 - Today at 10:43 PM
Yesssss
Yvonne is super into putting on shows
Ambaaargh/Mabs - Today at 10:43 PM
Well considering Yvonne's the reaper, you could prolly use that as a phrase to explain "I managed to get out of danger by yvnonne's breath" to indicate you were a threads width away from biting it.
Rudjé - Today at 10:44 PM
oh yeah on the swearing thing b4 i forget: it's generally agreed that by the gods is really awkward-sounding, mostly because you'd probably call on the god appropriate for the situation
also hell yeah mabs that's rad >:U
(note that i'm speaking from a RL perspective, do whatever for starfurries) e: FURTHER CLARIFICATION it's iirc how most polytheistic religions use the swear :U
Itchy Bitchy 2by4 - Today at 10:44 PM
I have a legend idea where crafters see heat lightening in volcanos as good omens because it's raziel and Yvonne having a good time and making music
Ambaaargh/Mabs - Today at 10:44 PM
Sort of a phrase for "close call" XD
Ambaaargh/Mabs - Today at 10:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1dfaoCfy88
Raziel and Yvonne
Gin - Today at 10:46 PM
when youre angry and cant find anything to say, "Basut's got your tongue?"