[Resolved] KiruSpookz / D0GF4NGZ - Minor with NSFW

Posted 3 years, 3 months ago (Edited 3 years, 3 months ago) by Fidough

Who: KiruSpookz 

What: They are a 14 year old in possession of NSFW. 

Proofs: 

- Their "content warning" page says they dont want anyone under 13 contacting them and that they have NSFW - https://ibb.co/mFszQjM

- Their instagram says 14. If you look at their page, it's clear it has their OCs / art, it lines up with toyhouse + the same username - https://ibb.co/zXTwyKJ 

------- (plus its listed on their carrd - https://kiruspookz.carrd.co/ )

- They have NSFW art of their OC that they drew themselves. (screencap link is censored, but pls dont click if you're under 18 regardless) - https://ibb.co/wKf1WSW

I have full page screencaps if needed in case they delete it, but for now I recommend everyone steer clear of this user. 

Please note: I don't want to be involved in PSAs or drama, especially against a minor. This is merely a warning for the community as of now, since KiruSpookz is a very active minor in threads around toyhouse; and we basically only have one single admin on the site. 

Anything outside of directly posting this PSA will NOT be managed or updated, and this is posted on my throwaway account for that exact reason. If you know of their other social medias or allegations (with proof) against this user, comment them below; But I will not be actively searching for anything more incriminating.

A user named Dracurin also mentioned that the NSFW itself isn't flagged properly when I mentioned this on the general psa thread, so other minors may be able to see it. I'm not sure if this is true or not. I've reported this user and I am awaiting a response, but I have little hope it'll be answered in a timely fashion without a thread here in the service reviews. 

updates from this point will be put on the bottom of the thread!

update1:

KiruSpookz's trade / alt account is D0GF4NGZ -- 

proof: 

image.pnghttps://ibb.co/9tSgjnf

a user (who shall remain anonymous) messaged me to update this thread immediately with some concerning information regarding the NSFW drawings that were "deleted".

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https://ibb.co/jZ2BY7x

One of the characters who was in the NSFW art, Joji, has two images listed on the trade account. 

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https://ibb.co/2ggV4Pf

However, when you look at the actual character's profile, only one images comes up. This means one of the images is private. 

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https://ibb.co/9rp8sD3

By my memory, when looking at the character, Joji only had his animal ref and the NSFW art piece. It was a shared gallery image with Michael. I think I am right, because this can DOUBLY be confirmed when you look at Michael's gallery compared to the images listed: 

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https://ibb.co/rvCr2kK

This gallery listing has 8 images listed in the gallery. Yet when I go to explore the gallery itself, there are 7 actual images in there, not 8.

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https://ibb.co/cNFFCPV

Notice: I edited the image above to show all the images for space / crunching the thread, combining the total art pieces. I have full page screencaps of both pages individually if people are suspicious of my intentions, to prove there are only 7 images.

This means Kiru possibly never deleted the art. They could have hidden it from the public where it's still attached to a character they're trying to trade. This is a massive risk for anyone who's thinking about trading with this user, and could get you in a LOT of legal trouble if you trade with them. Please be careful. 

This PROBABLY is a bug, but it's better safe to list this as a precaution to be safe. One of the affected characters IS being traded, and it's known to have NSFW attached to it, so at the very least this is good information to note if that sort of thing makes you uncomfortable.

NauseAxe_404

Hey! So this is a bit off topic, but I understood the post with no real questions but wanted an opinion on a related situation. They have a really nice character on their trade account that I’d like to trade for, but would it still be bad to attempt to trade for a character they own that you’re sure has no nsfw art?
I’m not sure if it would be alright or not (morally??) given the situation surrounding them. ;;’ I totally would’ve offered on Joji without knowing if I saw them before I saw this though,, so that’s a little worrying? 

I’ve never run into a situation like this before so I’m not really sure if interacting with them at all would be bad or what,, 

I am a minor myself, I don’t know if that makes a difference to the scenario.

I’m sorry if this is too off topic! Or a bad question?? I don’t know anythingbsjs 

Fidough

GroundRiot - I would say it's up to your own discretion. Is it worth the potential risk of the NSFW popping up later? It can be deleted, sure, but that art will always be either in a file archive, possibly saved by someone else, uploaded somewhere else without your knowledge, etc. You can't be 100% confident that NSFW art hasnt been made just because you don't see it. It's a 50/50 grey area. I can only advise you that there's a possibility it could crop up later -- It's a small probability, but I think it can be risky. 

"I totally would’ve offered on Joji without knowing if I saw them before I saw this though,, so that’s a little worrying?" Is a phrase you should think over carefully and evaluate through this experience. If you didn't know about Joji, you would have offered. The only characters I know for SURE have NSFW are Joji and Michael, but I'm not omniscient / confident that it's the only characters who may have that content attached. The others might have some form of it attached, and not even I would know unless someone else notices / calls it out. 

NauseAxe_404

GTFO Thank you! That helped a lot. I’ll think it over more later, you made a good point and I didn’t think about how there might also be nsfw that didn’t get uploaded here but still just kinda,, exists somewhere djdj. 
On the Joji comment, I was thinking that if the image was only hidden I wouldn’t have looked at the image count to know anything was up, just saw a rly cute character :’/ That would’ve been,, a shock lol rip. I’m kinda worried that if it is only hidden, someone will end up buying Joji without knowing anything about the art. I hope it really was deleted fhdj. But I think on that basis, if I keep an eye on image counts compared to the number I can see in the gallery I at least wouldn’t get any nsfw directly attached to the character? I guess it’s something to put more thought into and weigh the risks of.
Thanks again! I really appreciated hearing what you thought about this, you’re really helpful!

Fidough

KiruSpookz - I admit, the first comment made me laugh. 

Thank you for apologizing and owning up to your mistakes. I understand it can be tough to really fully grasp the situation in full, until someone really puts it into perspective how dangerous it is. It can subject you to adults interacting with you in NSFW nature, get innocent adults and the site itself at risk, and overall is really not content someone who is 14 should be making. You endangered other minors into seeing that content by avoiding the age-block filter to upload it anyways. 

I used to always try and gently inform minors (or anyone who's doing something wrong) in PM, but that only works about 30% of the time. Most of the time I'm blocked, ignored, or yelled at. I am sorry that I didn't directly PM you (and that I mentioned it on forums). That should of been my more direct / first approach to be professional, but I was also having a rough few days and didn't want to take it out on you personally. I'll own up to that, that my approach wasn't the most smooth.

I sincerely hope it doesn't happen again. I will write this as resolved in the title, but I am still keeping this PSA active just because there may be adults who don't want to interact with you due to your past of publicly posting NSFW as a minor. Please protect yourself, adults, and other minors from that content.

This is a final, off-topic statement (but the dad in me is worried for you) If any adults (18+) try to interact with you in that way / manner or encourage you to do adult things, please don't let them. Report them to whatever necessary authority there is. I don't know if this is happening which is why it's a vague statement, but it's always important to say this when minors post NSFW or occupy adult spaces -- A lot of minors have been groomed in the past or current present into thinking its okay to exist in those spaces. And I hope that any minor reading this takes those words to heart as well. Protect yourselves.