Rant: OC faceclaims

Posted 6 years, 8 months ago (Edited 6 years, 8 months ago) by Accela

I'm really curious on how other people think about this. Sorry if general isn't the place to put this!

So basically, if you roleplay a lot, you're bound to see people with random anime characters or celebrities being used as their "OC." Now okay, the celebrity thing doesn't bother me too much, whatever. But when it's a fictional character from a show, or comic, or whatever, that's when it pisses me off. It's literally stealing someone's character. 

Now, okay, surely the creators of the franchise don't care that much, but it's also just lazy. Are you really so lazy that you can't create your own character, so you have to use a pre-existing character you found on Google? "But I can't draw!" There are plenty of generators out there. Doll Divine has tons, DeviantArt has tons, and there's also DreamSelfy. 

I'm tired of seeing faceclaims everywhere I go, because it's uncreative and plain lazy. Fine, if you're a kid that's like 10 or very possibly younger, whatever. You're still young and probably saw this wolf OC online, going "Ooh, I want that to be my OC!" And used it. But... shouldn't they grow out of it eventually? 

I don't know if the issue warranted this long of a rant, but it's something that's just always irked me. A lot of it includes art theft, too. I'm a curator on Amino, and every single day I have to tell multiple people to at least credit the artist they got the picture from. I usually end up having to find the artist myself through reverse-image search. 

Anyways, yeah. There's my rant. I hope this is in the right subforum.

Whoever sees this, let me know how you feel. Is it a problem, or am I just overly sensitive?


EDIT: this might've been better to post in Character Discussion oops I'm sorry

EDIT 2: I should've mentioned adoptables. It's different because you're purchasing the rights to using and owning that character, while faceclaims  just blatantly steal. 

ophangel

i strongly agree with pepperly, it's not something that is okay, even if there were no ill intentions or desire to monetize off of it

personally, i think it's lazy, unsettling, and in no way okay, what with the multitudes of makers out there that can allow you to create something more personalized than using someone's creative property, or their own face.

CaptainTigglesworth

I'm in the same boat as ThirdRoulette. Before I even really got into the internet art scene, and a friend introduced me to RP (iirc it was a Naruto RP site), it was pretty much a necessity to have an image for your character - and this was when I was in middle school, so more than 10 years ago (so my details may be a little fuzzy) but at the time I hadn't ever considered it to be a form of claiming somebody else's character as your own, simply having a visual reference to go off of - but in most cases (at least what I still can pull from memory) the written descriptions would maybe match hair or eye color (sometimes both) but a lot of the details differed from what was actually in the image. And even back then I would still make characters myself and draw them, so I had used a face claim once or twice but moved on to drawing my characters myself because I wanted everybody else to see them the way I saw them, and I didn't put much thought into the concept of a face claim until recent years.

That said, I think part of the problem and the reason this is such a huge thing is that people want things to be quick and easy. Instead of having to rely on written descriptions, people want to be able to pull up a picture. I've seen it a lot where face claims were more or less required, you had to have some sort of image instead of going off of just a written description because gods forbid somebody actually has to read your character's bio before roleplaying with you (again, quick and easy) and it's kind of... ridiculous that the culture got to that point at all.

HOWEVER, on the more "reputable" sites I've been on (where I still wasn't using them myself) it was always required that you credit the character and creator of said character whose images you were using. And while that still doesn't make it okay, it's a step in the right direction. Wherever it came from, it's something that shouldn't have been a thing in the first place? Going back to the days of D&D, a tabletop RPG, all you had were descriptions and those weren't even always going to be written down. Stats, maybe, but you definitely didn't have images of your characters, and you wouldn't have just plucked an image off the internet and said "hey this is my character".

Even if there's no ill will or intended harm, it's important to realize that a character's design is pretty much always intended to be a certain way because of various things - story, personal connection, etc, and it's really.... uncomfortable to see people taking it and running with it without even giving a second thought. It's one thing to ask somebody to use a character's image as a visual reference for an RP character (which, if asked I would still say no because they are still my characters).

I think it would be one thing to, say, describe an aspect of a character's appearance and to help with the mental image say "like this aspect of x-character from y-creator/series'" with an image attached, but just grabbing an image or several images of a character and saying "this image is exactly my character" is just weird to me??

inkrunner101

I personally can't stand this, I mean yeah if you're a kid that's a bit different. But seriously it's not hard to find a simple game to create your oc. But using a random image to rp with is bothersome to me. You never know who holds that oc dear, so if they were to find them being used, it can't really upset them. I once found one of my ocs being used in a rp that I definitely didn't agree with and actually made me almost have a panic attack.