Siriah's Bulletins


I made some anthros. Do you want one?

Posted 7 months, 17 days ago by Siriah

anthro_batch.pngI love all of the designs I came up with but I'm not going to keep all of them! I'm taking offers of art or money. Comment on this bulletin if you want one!

If you're offering money: $15 USD over Paypal. This is first come, first serve - if it will take you a bit of time to arrange the money I can hold it for you for up to a week.

If you're offering art: please make me an offer that you think is fair and show me some examples of your style. I'll be asking for you to draw one of these characters: https://toyhou.se/Siriah/characters You can let me know your preferences. Note that I might not accept all art offers, but I promise I'm not that picky about art style - I just want it to be a fair trade, since I did draw a colored full-body for all of these 😛 (I reused two rough pose undersketches between designs but other than that, these are completely original artworks)

You'll have full rights to trade or resell the design and use it commercially, but I do retain copyright of my own drawing. If you want to edit the design after you buy/trade for it, that's fine but you should make a new drawing (or ask someone else to make a new drawing) instead of directly editing my art.

  1. Tenrec
  2. Wallaby
  3. Marsupial mole
  4. Pink fairy armadillo
  5. Otter shrew
  6. Sea lion
  7. Panda Officially keeping this one.
  8. Badger
  9. Rhinoceros
  10. Giraffe

DeviantART is not feeding your art to its new AI

Posted 1 year, 5 months ago by Siriah

Would you willingly feed your art to an AI?

0 Votes Yes
2 Votes No
0 Votes Undecided

DeviantART recently made an announcement that they'd added an AI art-generating service called DreamUp to their website, and that they will allow people to opt out of having their art used for AI purposes. This seems to have been commonly interpreted as "DeviantART will use your work for their new AI by default" and that's... Not really accurate. I made this blog post because moving to a different gallery site will not prevent your art from being used to train AIs. In fact, it might do the exact opposite. If you use DeviantART and don't want your art to be used for AI purposes, here's what the announcement means for you.

TL;DR you'll probably want to just opt out instead of deleting all of your art, unless you have strong moral convictions against the use of AIs in general.

The facts

  • This is the tweet that was made on the official DeviantART Twitter. It was worded poorly, but different posts make it clear that they did not mean that DeviantART will train its AI with the art of everyone who doesn't opt out. Their blog post in DeviantART states "DeviantArt did not, does not, and will not use deviations submitted to DeviantArt to add to third-party AI models or training sets, or on DreamUp itself" and so does this Tweet reply in the original thread. You can read their full stance on AI art in the DreamUp announcement as well. This bulletin is not about whether this is a "good" stance or not, but I feel like it's important to know what their stance on AI art actually is in order to know if you agree or disagree with it.
  • The AI that DeviantART added, is based on an existing model called Stable Diffusion. Stable Diffusion was trained on images that were scraped off of the open internet, and DeviantART is part of the Internet. Because of that, art that you've posted on DeviantART might already have been used to train Stable Diffusion (or it might not have been!) and it can happen again in the future... Unless...?
  • So, DeviantART is not personally using your art to train AIs, but they might indirectly be using technology that is trained on your art against your will. That brings us to the opt-out feature. What's going on here, is that they're allowing members of the website to opt-out of allowing their art to be used to train EVERY AI data model, whether or not it's used on DeviantART or not. What DeviantART is proposing, is that when someone is building a scraper that gathers art from the Internet to train an AI, there should be a way to tell these scrapers "I do not allow you to use my art for AI purposes, please stop." The idea is that other websites than DeviantART should tell scrapers not to use the art for AI in the same way. Search engines like Google actually also work on a similar "opt-out" basis. The scrapers used by a search engine will listen to a file called 'robots.txt' and to a 'noindex' directive, which tells them when the owners of a  website don't want it to be crawled or put on search engines.
  • Right now, you can only opt-out one artwork at a time, and that obviously sucks, but they're going to make a way to mark ALL of your artworks as "using this for training AIs is not allowed."
  • You might feel that this does not go far enough, and that AI should only ever be trained with artworks where the artist has explicitly given consent. That's a completely valid way to feel. However, opt-out is better than not being able to say "no" at all. Remember that DeviantART never explicitly allowed art to be used to train AIs, but it was done anyway. The same is true for every other website on the Internet, so moving to a different gallery website will not protect your art from being used to train AIs against your will.

I hope that this was helpful. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.