This new rule really doesn't feel right.

Posted 5 years, 1 month ago (Edited 5 years, 1 month ago) by void

EDIT: Since no one is suggesting any sort of actual... resolution, or constructive criticism of any kind, and just arguing for the sake of arguing, i'm going to lock this thread.

Here's some suggestions on what i'd change to the policy, for the admin :

1. Add a clause that canon characters that have been changed in visual & backstory design 70/30 can be allowed, since people do like to develop canon characters to an extreme degree sometimes so much so that they become an ""OC"" in a sense.

2. All art on their profile MUST be art you've drawn or art drawn for you, it cannot be official artwork or just random fanart you've found and uploaded without permission

3. Profile must include some information about distinctions / developments that make them your unique project, to explain how they're not just a mirror of a canon character

4. You must explicitly credit the original copyright to the holder of the canon character (such as marvel, blizzard, etc)

5. They must be marked as never to be traded, sold, etc

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"We no longer host the following characters: Re-uploads of canon characters (eg. please do not upload a profile to store official artwork or fanart/fanfic of Naruto, including AUs or altered designs who share the same name, personality and identity with the canon character)"

I know what it was initially targeting, after some digging, which was galleries filled with icons of "kin characters" and nothing else, which from a server management side amounts to nothing more than spam.

But in this sweeping rule, it also targets people who mean genuinely well, world builders role players, writers, genuinely creative people who have taken canon characters and have completely transformed them into something vastly different than the original canon media, so much so that documenting them on a website like this is the only way to really tell the world about them. This is the exact thing I do with my spouse, in the media "Transformers" and "Unreal Tournament". You wouldn't even be able to recognize the characters with their canon selves anymore after, in same cases, over a decade in development, but because they fall under this rule because they share the same name as the canon character, we wouldn't be able to keep their profiles on toyhouse.

We're not the only people to do this. Rewriting canon and further evolving existing universes is a really fun activity for world building hobbyists. This is why I like this website and have paid for premium, I feel this website has been a great place to store characters and and sort them into their various universes so I can sort my head straight when I talk to others about them. It's been one of the most well run and versitile online spaces for my purposes of a world builder and to see one of my specific hobbies shot down like this is really heart-breaking.

My husband and I grouse -- if he had filled out the profiles thoroughly, these would be targeted for the takedown of the new rule, because both these characters are AUs of Xan Kriegor

They both ARE Xan Kriegor, not designed to look like Xan Kriegor or pretending to be Xan Kriegor or inspired by Xan Kriegor, they Are Xan Kriegor, in name, story, and universe.

https://unreal.fandom.com/wiki/Xan_Kriegor

https://toyhou.se/1393649.xandmate

https://toyhou.se/1393644.krieg

brimsnaps

[edit] i had a reply but it's gone now coz someone cleared it up :3

brimsnaps

Ezreal it's not a canon character? :V it's a pikachu named pikachu, it's trainer is my OC Kenny. it has a stripe on it's tail. unless you're telling me that...fan characters based off of an established species aren't even allowed anymore?


i ACTUALLY didn't see that rule in the original post, and the rule you linked me clears up a LOT so honestly? thank you. now im done with this because...shit was explained to me lol, i get it now

brimsnaps

[edit] oh i didn't actually misread it i misread it into thinking i misread it originally. i still think it's a stupid rule! kinsonas/etc should be allowed!

whatevs. have a good day nya'll :P don't get into too many internet fights today

archivedbox

I know I look dumb for this but I'm ADHD and autistic and I'm just having a hard time wrapping my head around this but

"giving a dog naruto hair and a spunky personality? fine. giving a dog naruto's hair, name, outfit, backstory, and personality? not fine."

Okay but my kinsona has, let's use Naruto still, technically the name and like 75% same personality. Everything else is different. Is that enough to be a fan character? Their name is similar, but is different. Backstory is different. Outfit is different.

Quoting iHolli "And as I have asked several times before in several places, what other sites? If there is another site that is equal to TH I will gladly move. But NOTHING exists. CharaHub shut down. Stash on dA is an absolute disaster [dA as a whole is a disaster]. I'm already planning to have Refsheet acting as a backup but it doesn't do anything like TH and there are a lot of people who aren't able to use it. If there is an alternative, I want it so I can leave now and not have to deal with this absolute nonsense."

This. I came to Toyhouse because Charahub shut down, dA is dying last I checked or isn't as good for stuff like this, and Tumblr is reporting random posts now so is out. :(

Natalya

Holy crap yall. That is allĀ