[PSA/Beware] Tracing: nemillustrationsart

Posted 4 years, 11 hours ago (Edited 3 years, 11 months ago) by nocturnalraptor

Artist: nemillustrationsart / NeMDG / nem.dg
Beware: Selling traced adoptables.
Original Journal: journal/Artist-Beware-826669309

❗️ [MAY 5TH 2020] : Posting this here as well as I know some users here have some of their adoptables and I wanted to shed light on this. I will preface I have not contacted either artist due to my own nervousness and what appears to be a language barrier. I understand there is no excuse for this. I am only writing this from my perspective on a single adopt that I paid for. I have no idea if any of their other stuff is traced or referenced. If anyone does have further proof of more tracing and/or referencing, feel free to share it here, otherwise please treat this as a single issue. Thank you.

I absolutely hate making these, but I feel this beware is warranted and worth letting others know to be wary when doing business with. I came across an artist, nemillustrationsart, about two months back, one of whom I bought an adoptable from. They undoubtedly have talent, but unfortunately by sheer luck I recently discovered another image that looked strikingly familiar to the adoptable that I bought.

I took this image and superimposed it over the adoptable I had bought. Low and behold, it looks to have been traced. There are obviously some liberties taken here and there with certain shapes and the shading, but aside from that the line work is nearly identical in some spots. The design itself is even similar. I honestly don't see a result where this wasn't traced or at the very least inspired/influenced by the original pixiv upload.

The adopt I bought was uploaded on November 7th, 2019 while the original was uploaded to Pixiv on October 7th, 2019. Normally I wouldn't really pay too much mind to this stuff, since coincidences absolutely happen, but the tracing/copy is just too blatant for me.

NEM: https://sta.sh/22cm0ib5dcr6
SOURCE: https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/77163984
SUPERIMPOSED: https://sta.sh/01h1rfse4ab6

ALL EVIDENCE: https://sta.sh/21l8af9l8db6

Please be wary when doing business with nemillustrationsart. I haven't been able to find out anything regarding the rest of their adoptables and art, only this one piece. This might have been a one time thing for all I know. For myself, I intend to re-imagine the character since it's pretty much a wash at this point. Please, please, please, do not harass, target, insult, etc nemillustrationsart. This is just a journal to bring light and warn others. It's up to you to decide what you'll do with the information I have provided.


❗️ [MAY 6TH 2020] : More research has been done and more of nemi's adoptable's seem to be traced/referenced.
Further evidence listed below, including original uploads and superimposed images:

NEM: https://sta.sh/0wb8022xioy
SOURCEhttps://sta.sh/01267cxie0gp
SUPERIMPOSED: https://sta.sh/0jkplk46gni
LINKS: https://sta.sh/2wzvuwh2liv

NEM: https://sta.sh/01i373w0it62
SOURCE: 
https://sta.sh/0v7luffkcrn
SUPERIMPOSED: 
https://sta.sh/01i8fk9hpqp4
LINKS: https://sta.sh/21la3i8pszy7

NEMhttps://sta.sh/0c3t3aof3sm
SOURCE: 
https://sta.sh/01dvqdesqixw
SUPERIMPOSED: 
https://sta.sh/01lt11wgtxkf
LINKS: https://sta.sh/2zaiq8zgmum

NEMhttps://sta.sh/0yfq5o5jqn1
SOURCE: 
https://sta.sh/0k1jzg1fbkt
SUPERIMPOSED: 
https://sta.sh/0jz4plq2crc
LINKS: https://sta.sh/2czmwpsh6e4

NEMhttps://sta.sh/010xdsl37cmq
SOURCE: 
https://sta.sh/08a4e3z0tuo
SUPERIMPOSED: 
https://sta.sh/0sqf1uut17k
LINKS: https://sta.sh/2ptfk8equpy

NEMhttps://sta.sh/01o4mpv3vtjv
SOURCE: 
https://sta.sh/01y784jban4
SUPERIMPOSED: 
https://sta.sh/0ehi3x52zxn
LINKS: https://sta.sh/21suyjivbp22

NEM https://sta.sh/0mzpxvfz8on
SOURCE: 
https://sta.sh/0s6yktvd2no
SUPERIMPOSED: 
https://sta.sh/01u5zm61my5f
LINKS: https://sta.sh/210il6l07wwm

NEMhttps://sta.sh/0umwrqkgn8x
SOURCE & SUPERIMPOSED: 
https://sta.sh/02g7rwbx06xl
LINKS: https://sta.sh/223jsoew2cuj

NEM: https://sta.sh/0286yfms6p82
SOURCE: https://sta.sh/01lm48du9mff
SUPERIMPOSED: https://sta.sh/028on9ee8ovo
LINKS: https://sta.sh/21fugh601j7x

NEM: https://sta.sh/020r8t1lkxqz
SOURCE: https://sta.sh/093jlowv07
SUPERIMPOSED: https://sta.sh/02ap56bvafq7
LINKS: https://sta.sh/2253hikhq9zo

NEM: https://sta.sh/0ggvou4fhyb
SOURCE: https://sta.sh/01xusbyt12zl
SUPERIMPOSED: https://sta.sh/01e0cbw11d18
LINKS: https://sta.sh/226fb000s1ce

NEM: https://sta.sh/01wmbl126a0i
SOURCE: https://sta.sh/0mk3tkgcsmp
SUPERIMPOSED: https://sta.sh/0i5zs84i5k1
LINKS: https://sta.sh/21k4qqbv87a3

NEM: https://sta.sh/01dvdl1c67oq
SOURCE: https://sta.sh/01r5ir58xp3e
SUPERIMPOSED: https://sta.sh/0n2gxjl5qnz
LINKS: https://sta.sh/21trj3rhrgei

NEM: https://sta.sh/0po99t5bz4t
SOURCE: https://sta.sh/0emxbzxht1f
SUPERIMPOSED: https://sta.sh/0243fh0nxztq
LINKS: https://sta.sh/2x2wyzy5fnb

NEM: https://sta.sh/01pjs5e78up1
SOURCE: https://sta.sh/02c6i142b013
SUPERIMPOSED: https://sta.sh/021yztpgfhv9
LINKS: https://sta.sh/225dzmlv3alm

NEM: https://sta.sh/0j7w469zkhi
SOURCE: https://sta.sh/0ueo4le0u1j
SUPERIMPOSED: https://sta.sh/0gk6dvigaj5
LINKS: https://sta.sh/21vg1f9vm4lz

NEM: https://sta.sh/0vs45fsc1xl
SOURCE: https://sta.sh/014tv7vfmanm
SUPERIMPOSED: https://sta.sh/0f78wjkpmf0
LINKS: https://sta.sh/21opkjyal9cx

NEM: https://sta.sh/0t9pzi9pik9
SOURCE: https://sta.sh/011xxk4w50sp
SUPERIMPOSED: https://sta.sh/01knhdfac9o9
LINKS: https://sta.sh/21wuamwh1hfc

NEM: https://sta.sh/0q46bg4do7y
SOURCE: https://sta.sh/09kp30a36y3
SUPERIMPOSED: https://sta.sh/09xvkeqffgd
LINKS: https://sta.sh/21v80mdezrt7

Additionally it seems nem also traces/copy real people as well.
Please note that these are slight NSFW with skin showing:

NEM: https://sta.sh/224eoqey61yd
SOURCE #1: https://www.instagram.com/p/BtMzEu-g-Ah/
SOURCE #2
: https://www.instagram.com/p/B29k8oViLKA/


❗️ [MAY 7TH 2020] : I had attempted to issue a chargeback, but unfortunately I was past the 180-day protection. After failing to attempt a charegback, I was going to go back to nemi's profile to find out I had been blocked.


❗️ [MAY 8TH 2020] : I have prefaced that I never contacted nemi originally and that is 100% my own fault. I accepted that my adoptable was traced and that I lost my money. I didn't really want to fight it on what I assumed was a single incident. I wrote the beware emphasizing this. I didn't want to get into anything as I have never dealt with this, and again, I fully accept the outcome I've been dealt. I'm continuing with this beware just in case I might possibly get a refund or at the very least, warn others of the abundant amount of tracing evidence.

nemi is claiming that people who are unhappy can come talk to them and that they fully acknowledged they traced and referenced art. The design may differ, but it does not deny the fact that the images are traced and referenced with no credit at all. For now, I would advise anyone with a traced adopt to try and contact nemi requesting a refund and if that falls through, chargeback if possible. I apologize to everyone for not being more upfront when I discovered my adoptable was traced. I hope that nemi can provide solutions for all of those affected.


❗️ [MAY 10TH 2020] : To reiterate, nemi is saying to contact them if you'd like a refund or new art in exchange, so I would advise contacting them first before going to PayPal. I have added more traces and referenced art to the list under the spoiler tag. I've put up all the evidence here. Nemi has also purged most of their gallery. I will say that I, myself, am still blocked. I also posted a beware on artistsbeware.info as well. AFAIK nemi hasn't actually refunded anyone yet, but it sounds like they're making steps to fix the issue. If there are any further updates, I'll post them, but for now, I'm done. Good luck everyone and thank you.

SOUNDBBABE

God this sucks, I was kinda interested in a few of these characters they had for sale. But now that I see that it's traced artwork I'd rather not own one.
I'd understand if it was a base, since I tend to use bases seldom with the appropriate credit, but they're just straight up tracing.

I guess it's a good thing that I never bought anything, so thank you for bringing some awareness with this thread. 

nocturnalraptor

Added more to the top post. I apologize if things are all over the place, I'm trying my best to keep it coherent, but I admit I'm not great at this. I tried checking nemi's profile while not logged in as I'm still blocked, but it's hard to read and it looks like nemi is just talking to themself, which I assume means they hide comments? Regardless, this whole situation is bizarre and I don't know how to comment. Has anyone gotten a refund from nemi before? It looks like they're claiming they've refunded two people already, and if you have been refunded, please let me know! AFAIK en-zu is still blocked as am I.

Nemi, if you see this post, I'm floofyowl on dA. I would love a refund as I never agreed to purchase traced/referenced art. I feel it's fair to ask for my money back now. Gonna have to unblock me for that though. Don't know what else to say. Best bet for those who own adopts from them would be to contact nemi and request a refund (which they explicitly have said). If that results in a block or being ignored, try going through PayPal and see if you have any luck. Sorry everyone.

En-zu

novaraptor My wonderful friend went to bat for me and got me unblocked. I am currently working on a note to him and will update everyone here on how it goes.

nocturnalraptor

En-zu - Wonderful, please let us know how it goes!

Yawnty

Man this sure sucks, someone had noted me on dA about this. I bought an adopt a long while ago from them :( Good thing I was planning on redesigning/re-doing that character entirely whoof. Thanks much for letting people know, I hate when shit like this happens :/ I probably wont fight for refund/chargeback, it's such a hassle, but it's a good thing I held off on their other adopts or customs yikes.

nocturnalraptor

Garghoul - I noticed that they deleted a few pieces of traced art. I've since reuploaded screenshots of them so it's better to keep track of.

Main post has been updated to be a bit more cohesive. Again, will update it as things change.
Here's to hoping everyone can get the resolutions they desire. Thank you everyone.

Camy

His excuse of saying "Well why did you take so long" doesn't allow him to trace. Period. It doesn't matter how long someone who has paid him with assumptions that he draws his OWN art without tracing have every right to demand and get back a refund from him at any time.

Bring this to Paypal saying that he traced the artwork with proof (links only, don't link a thread) of what you recieved. Add in the word "genuine" if you have to since you thought his art was genuinely his own.

Ancient

Good news! I got a response from Mitch Lucas, the artist behind Project Divider and the source of a good number of Nem's traces. Here's what he said: 

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For transparency, here is my initial message to him: https://i.gyazo.com/ab668c592339fffcd107cc354abb3e5f.png

Hopefully he will be able to make some headway in getting deviantart to shut down Nem's account. If anyone would like me to ask his advice on what folks who purchased designs should do, let me know and I will relay that on to him. I'm also going to respond to let him know that Nem follows him on instagram.

beardedmen

Oh jeesh, I actually bought an adopt from them like 4 months ago ; 0 ;
Can anyone help confirm if this design is also traced?
Ancient

beardedmen
Sorry to say it is a trace :/ Just found it today on  one of the reposting accts Nem follows on insta. Not sure of the source artist (its not credited), but here is the upload from the reposting acct he follows: https://www.instagram.com/p/BtQ-z1al3pY/ 

Also looks like his insta is gone. Not familiar with insta but I'm assuming he's set it to private or changed his handle since we've been finding the source of his tracings through it. Fortunately I still have a lot of these accounts in my history, so I can continue to search.

Rigby

Wow, I've grabbed a couple of designs from this person before, too (though I think one of them got swept up in the deletion bomb). I'm not really sure how to move from here - in my experience, people will pack up and run when called out, and reading through this thread is kind of speaking to it all getting similarly messy.

Worth a shot trying to get it back, but I'll otherwise eat that money, I suppose. Slimy. :/ 

Ancient

Tagging a few people here who have purchased Nem designs that have been confirmed as traces just in case they're unaware. Apologies in advance if you hear from me twice, as I'm also going to be noting a few people on deviantart who don't have a toyhouse acct obviously associated with their da:
horribull Vinegar CrystalBlossom protonoise HauntedBlack Jesse moonjumper 

also to try and help organize evidence, I've tossed everything I've found up in a stash folder, and will put any additional things in there instead of constantly updating in here with all the links: https://sta.sh/2q76kjite3b (I will mention if I find more, but to keep things tidy it'll all be @ that link).

Haven't emailed back Mitch Lucas (project divider) yet, so if anyone has questions for him, let me know before I do later today.