"Mako" Zagan Kowalczyk (MakoVersus Cy EarthManipulator)

Toyhouse text: Mako as one of cyrus earth manipulator villains/opponents Concepts

https://toyhou.se/12790474.mako-kowalczyk/26334149.makoversus-cy-earthmanipulator ------------------ Art Tabs Mako POV

Cyrus finds out tyreks identity. and mako connects all dots that cyrus is connected to tyreks murder. https://toyhou.se/12790474.mako-kowalczyk/26336942.aftermathtyrekidentityrevealed

Mako and cyrus fight, mako gets cyrus to confess the truth about tyreks death/murder

https://toyhou.se/12790474.mako-kowalczyk/26352039.mako-versus-cyrus-concepts

Cyrus showing mako location of crime scene https://toyhou.se/12790474.mako-kowalczyk/26366068.cyshowmakolocationofcrimescene

Mako and cyrus return to the party from crime scene https://toyhou.se/12790474.mako-kowalczyk/26366042.mako-and-cyrus-return-to-party

William Supervise Crime Scene https://toyhou.se/12790474.mako-kowalczyk/26366587.william-supervise-crime-scene ----------------------------------- Art Tabs Cyrus POV

Cyrus finds out tyreks identity. and mako connects all dots that cyrus is connected to tyreks murder. https://toyhou.se/3667853.cyrus-septimus-schmidt-coyote/25627739.aftermathtyrekidentityrevealed

Mako and cyrus fight, mako gets cyrus to confess the truth about tyreks death/murder https://toyhou.se/3667853.cyrus-septimus-schmidt-coyote/26352040.mako-versus-cyrus-concepts

Cyrus showing mako location of crime scene https://toyhou.se/3667853.cyrus-septimus-schmidt-coyote/26366064.cyshowmakolocationofcrimescene

Mako and cyrus return to the party from crime scene https://toyhou.se/3667853.cyrus-septimus-schmidt-coyote/26366040.mako-and-cyrus-return-to-party

William Supervise Crime Scene https://toyhou.se/3667853.cyrus-septimus-schmidt-coyote/26366589.william-supervise-crime-scene

( I will try to keep the same images in both tabs. since they are connected and easier for me to find the whole story from both POV

--------------------------------------------- NIGHTSTALKER AMBUSH CYRUS AND MAKO, impacts nightstalker organization and suicide squad Concept page (Where I try to keep the canon text) https://toyhou.se/6629575.damien-schmidt/26575090.nightstalker-ambush-cyrus-mako

---------------- EXTRA NOTE ABOUT : Mako and cyris retun from crime scene: Mako and cyris retun from crime scene to the party (its possible they go to crime after the party. but it seems smartest to take advantage of the storm. but of course. it can be stormy next day too, and if the weather report talks about bad storm for days. It's possible the guys go back to the party. I can also imagine mako doesn't want cyrus a chance to make up a story either?? then again. i think mako believes cyrus during or after their fight. and they might need to go back home to find out how to get to the crime scene without gettng seen (if they know william has put up cameras. i lean on its possible they arent awere of the cameras. but realisticly i think mako will overheard them talking about william setting up cameras?? unless he ran because he couldn't hear anymore? i think he would want to hear more, but if he struggles to cry silently because he is overwhelmed by all the information. finding out ty was killed, the brutality of the murder, finding out that haruna and ty are criminals etc. hearing they planned to lie to the family members about tyreks death. maybe he was forced to leave if they were walking where he was, or it was high chance they would find out he is there. so he left i leave it open that it might be good that william finds out truth. there are more notes below about william.

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With Mako i think i'll focus on his more goofy side? And if there is serious stuff its not the biggest topic? I like his role as a comic relief (who can switch to serious stuff now and then, since it makes him more complex and fun character) "revenge" (its not revenge on makos side. but it would be personal for both of them.

To clarify. There is mix about canon stuff, like Mako knowing who cy is. and cyrus most likely doesn't know mako is his team mate

what i dont think is canon. is mako being cyrus opponent. Because of the timeline. I want cyrus to have earth manipulator opponent AFTER suicide squad.

However. it's not impossible that mako and cyrus MIGHT end up in fight. so you get to see how he freezes ut with earth manipulators. and i think also the self destructive side. i think he doesnt put up much of a fight. he wants to get punished for his actions

so cyrus can meet a npc villain afterwards.

mako: cyrus loosing, self destructive side. giving up living. its personal/emotional for them both (it has to be before ty is ressurected) npc earth manipulator villain. maybe hired by someone

my brain: remember all the scrapped ideas you had of earth manipulator villain for cyrus? That you weren't fond of since you didn't know how to make it work? me: oh no...i can sense were you are going brain: Mako....kind of fits those motives you werent fond of to begin with "like what if cyrus put someones dad in prison" (cy played a role in tyreks death. the biggest role)

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I'm not sure how good this idea is.

I lean on this won't be canon.

But I haven't been able to get the idea out of my head. I'm sharing it anyway

I lean on mako found out early on who cyrus is. and is pretending he doesnt know. there is notes in mako's toyhouse about it. so you have payton who is cluless about cyrus, and then you have mako who knows but pretends he doesnt because he is entertained by pretending he doesnt know. and maybe aslo extra kick of being one of cyrus team mates without cyrus knowing (which might be problemsolving, or even what MIGHT put cyrus in risky situation. or least risk of mako lashing out in impulsive and pain of loosing his uncle) I dont think this is canon. Because I like the idea of cyrus working on his trauma. and then he ends up fighting one or several earth manipulators (they might have been hired by someone from the nigthstalker organization??? one of the few enemies left. maybe even harunas family??? they will most likely know welll about cyrus trauma. and i think they will hate haruna too?? unless deity haruna does things were they clearly see she is the villain. i lean on deity haruna will reveal her true self in some way, but harunas family might still be one of the few people in denial about her. or they believe nightstalkers should be on top of the food chain. and humans are nothing more than a food source to deity haruna and her creatures (or the creatures that are made nightstalkers shapeshifters)

Current canon: 1. Cyrus is beat up by tyrek, and loose lu 2.Cy har trauma with earth manipulators. ANd if mako use earth based magic at times. I think Cy almost left the team. i lean on mako isn't aware of cyrus planning to leave, or he doesnt know the truth. it's possible cy made up a lie about "x team needs me more" 3. mako will most likely see cyrus is reacting to his earth magic (unless cy us lucky and mako use other types of magic, or he doesnt connect the dots. i lean on mako is smart enough to pick up its earth based. 4. cy is beat up and captures by tyrek 5. crossfire fight, cyrus shoots tyrek. enabling lu to kill tyrek. 6. cy finds out who tyrek is at a party, where he runs out from the party. payton is there. (alternate possibility or where i need to be careful is if mako sees cyrus run. and if he sees cyrus was standing near the images, or worse. looking at the family picture and then fled. i think this will make mako connect the dots. So either mako isn't at the party or he is somewhere else. he either didn't see cyrus leave or he saw glimpse of cyrus by the exit) It opens up for mako using cyrus being broken down to get a confession out of cyrus (especially if my ocs havent figure out yet who stole tyreks body. then mako will want to at least get answers were his uncle is to give him proper burial.

7. after suicide squad fight. ty works on repairing the damage he has done. joins damien in training cyrus. working on his ptsd

8. cyrus gets a earth manipulator opponent, and wins, showing growth through the training and help from ty and damien. (probably also mako, especially if he has earth based powers) ----------------------------------------------------- I dont know if cyrus bleeding is canon in the revamp https://toyhou.se/3667853.cyrus-septimus-schmidt-coyote/25564975.paytonfindoutcyiscoyoteconcept

he has been punching bag enough.

it could have been mako?? he is strategic, but idk how impulsive he is. especially when he lost his uncle. IF it is mako. I can see him stop and realize what he is doing. and then heal cyrus.

IF mako is beating up cyrus around the timeline cyrus runs out the apartment.

1 .then i want cyrus to either win.

Or

2. cyrus looses (to show his trauma of earth manipulators) and i bet mako isn't someone to be messed with.

and then cyrus is trained by ty and damien. and later ends up in a fight with earth manipulator and shows his growht. --------------------- i also like the emotional impact of the original idea about cy being pushed in portal. come back and fight earth manipulator (maybe in revamp he wins the fight. and someone takes the opportunity to attack cyrus. if the nigthstalkers doesnt loose their powers (it depends on haruna) it's possible a nightstalker jumped cyrus. which might open up for alliance. that the characters realize that anyone might be at risked at getting attacked. this might also provoke icarus to remove superpowers. it's also possible a nightstalker gained some other types of powers through help of science? they were allies with safe haven. even though i think villains will stay away from nightstalkers since they dont have much to offer + less eyes on them if they stay away. if nightstalkers got allies, i bet it would need a villain who has something personal against the other ocs. for example. cyrus put earth manipulators behind bars when searching for lu's "killer" i bet he was more informant since he feared earth manipulators. but i bet that is enough to provoke earth manipulators it's not smart if a nightstlaker got shapeshifting poewrs and shapeshifted into nightstalker form when attacking cyrus. since the my ocs know who the enemy is. then again. it could be pride too. to be a nigthstalker and slay one of the icarus family who were responsible for their organization destruction and revealing them to the world. and robbing them of their deity (i'm certain they would have gotten a smaller deity haruna back if they had let icarus try to rehabalitate her. so she would be a deity worthy of worship or be the deity they believed her to be. but they lost that chance after centuries of proving to icarus they can't be trusted . blowing up the city was final straw) ------------------------------------------- why mako might fit 1. cyrus was isolating himself. so he wasn't there for payton or mako (further evidence for mako. His uncle is dead. and his friend disappears again. Cy being terrified of earth manipulators. it MIGHT be interesting to see 1. you get to see the dark and serious side to mako. he is aggressive to protect the people he loves. and if somene hurt people he loves. he will also lash out. so to him, he means well. but he can do messed up things. and i think this is combination of "meaning well (family pov) but its bad friend way. + i think he is more impulsive because of the pain of loosing his uncle/father figure + influenced by his family's pain. and hurt by cyrus poofing. he feels like "if you cared for payton and i as friend. least you could have been is check if we were okay" 2. cyrus is self destructive...depending on timeline....he might not push up much fight. or he will freeze and later think about how he deserves it. Wanting to get punished for his actions (even thought he has been messed up for a long time by ty and haruna. so he has "served his time" and it was self defence. he didnt want to shoot ty. he wasn't able to shoot ty at first.

Mako as opponent versus npc earth manipulator/s. Both can be canon. Mako as opponent: cyrus self destructive. not fighting much back or fighting back at all. maybe even relief? relief the truth is finally out and he gets punishment he deserves. justice for the villain he killed.

npc earth manipulator : if cyrus fight another earth manipulator. you see cyrus doing everything to survive. he wants to live. and he will do everything he possibly can to survive. and will win the fight.

in the mako fight. its possible mako stops by himself too?? It sinks in he is beating up his best friend. Maybe also cyrus wanting to get beaten up. He sees cyrus is already destroyed as he is. I can see them both break down/hug. and later start to talk things out. or maybe payton stops the fight? and thats when makos actions start to sink in?

Additional notes why mako and cyrus MIGHT be interesting

you get to see the kids fight. so far it's been the adults fighting. and they want to resolve it for their kids. and i bet they want to resolve it even more when the kids are hurting each other. i tend to be bored by revenge stories. however, i don't think it's about revenge for mako?? i think it's more mako lashing out all his pain and frustration on cyrus. feeling betrayed. the emotional aspect from both pov, mako and cyrus. MIGHT be interesting. They are both in pain. especially if mako suspects cyrus and cyrus never comes clean. in cyrus defence, mako will be vague. so cyrus most likely isn't aware mako knows he is coyote. or fully know(understand what mako is trying to hint at. maybe mistaking mako's behavior as a concerned friend or a friend that was hurt by him being gone and wanting to get answers about why. and cyrus lies about personal stuff. (i can imagine cyrus become more and more frustrated with himself. wanting to tell the truth)

additional notes about what might make mako and cyrus conflict interesting cyrus get's to see what he is hurting his friend by keeping all the secrets and pushing them away. He isn't protecting them like he thinks/hopes he does.

although damien loosing his job is maybe enough for cyrus to see he is hurting everyone around him

possible concept for mako, is how he thought all these secrets were fun and games with cyrus. he enjoys poking at cyrus to see what cyrus will do to keep his coyote idenity secret. And if he suspect cyrus is responsible for tyreks death.he doesn't enjoy cyrus being secretive anymore. He might also question how well he really knows cyrus. He will also feel hurt that cyrus disappeared on him and payton. the least cyrus could do is check up on them (i think cyrus phone got destroyed and he was too wrecked emotionally to even go outside or order new on. mako will feel hurt that cyrus doesnt trust mako enough to confess and come clean (i bet the more mako tries to get cyrus to confess and the more cyrus avoids it. the more things will bottle up. (its also possible mako might have impulsively pushed cyrus in the portal and instantly regret it) +the more cyrus avoids confessing + if cyrus is able to keep his facade well ( he might work even harder to fake facade since he knows mako can see through him if he slips) so its possible the more cyrus fakes "i'm fine. everything is perfect" mako will become even more upset that cyrus doesnt seem to feel guilt or remorse. I lean on more that mako probably sees something is wrong and that cyrus is bothered by something. Maybe a confession scene by the river/forest. i think ill will at least draw that sometime soon. the forest scene can be changed as in mako arriving too late to see cyrus throw energy (there is lightning outside so he might have been focused on finding cyrus (cy probably ran and forgot his items). i can always change context about the art depending on what find out is canon! or that there is a confession scene but no physical fighting between them. its also mako built up frustration seeing cyrus facade. and seeing cyrus break down by the forest. helps repair their relationship? seeing the true remorseful cyrus is what he waited for.

I will continue to fill out the tab! ......................... MAKO MIGHT WITNESS CYRUS FLEEING APARTMENT there is one scene i've often imagined with cyrus. I couldn't decide if he ran home and collapsed. maybe to his parents

OR this scene i think about most for years, i imagined him running to the forest. and being by a river. and he starts to fire of energy up in the air (probably lets out scream of pain of frustration ( it's thundering and lightning so i dont think anyone was there, and i think its dark? or hard to see him because of all the trees)

i often wondered if someone saw him. Someone connected to tyrek, like old canon, i often wanted to ask about bexley. since she is a teammate and was in old canon saw ty as father figure (he would adopt her after suicide squad. since haruna didn't let him adopt bexley)

so now i wonder alot...what if mako saw cyrus run. he followed. and he sees cyrus break down. (i think he already knew cyrus is coyote but if he didn't know. he would know then. i lean on when cyrus push payton away. he starts to snoop on cyrus. and finds out cyrus is hero (maybe he joins a hero team shortly since he thinks it looks fun + he can prank cyrus without cyrus knowing. so double win for him)

and if he sees cyrus break down. and if he saw cyrus look at the pictures. he will most likely connect the dots cyrus was involed with his uncles death. HOWEVER if he sees cyrus in pain. He might not pick a fight with cyrus (which is okay with me, that he finds the truth that way) I'm not sure if this makes him spy on cyrus, or if he lets him emotions get the best of him and he confronts cyrus. since cyrus can't lie himself out of using his powers and breaking down like that.

another possibility is that mako knew earlier on. and maybe wanted to hurt cyrus (i think haruna needs to manipulate him for that story line) or at least he was starting to dislike cyrus for keeping it secret and keeping a facade. and when he sees cyrus break down. he sees the real cyrus. and maybe this is were mako takes advantage of cyrus being vulnerable. and cyrus confess. it might be anticlimatic? but it would be different from the other kids not suspecting cyrus or not figuring it out. and here you have mako who picks up on things . especially if they are team mates and if cyrus is somewhat vague, talking about things he wished he said to mako. mako has high chance to figure out what cyrus is vague about.

cyrus either try to make it seem like he is doing random quiestions to get to know his team mate like "never have i ever" or cyrus MIGHT show vulnerability (since cyrus doesn't know his team mate knows his civilian identity) and say something vague like. and ask if the team mate think coyote/cyrus should come clean to the people affected by actions.

however. since lu plays a role in tyreks death. and cyrus would also fear that if he confessed or hinted to much. his team mate might report him. or start to investigate to try to find out who he is .... he might hold back a lot . unless mako as team mate has managed to gain cyrus trust. especially if he is pretending to be naive and happy like payton. cyrus might think his team mate not understand how serious the topic is. ---------- maybe cyrus somewhat confessed to his teammate that he doesn't know is mako?? maybe mako pretends to be earth manipulator as teen titan team mate? Unless mako keeps his powers secret as civilian too. which i lean on. he keeps his powers secret since his family is doing everything to protect his real identity. and i bet by pretending to be a earth manipulator he is meeting half way. he gets to do something he wish. be a hero. but he is also listening to his family to not reveal his identity (they must have lied to him about something,since they havent told him who his real parents are. maybe something about they have enemies, so cant risk mako using his powers that can make the villain snoop in their family. then he risks putting himself and others in danger.

-------- haruna posssible involvement. i dont think is canon. since its messed up and makes it harder for haruna to fix her relationships. one VERY messed up thing, is that haruna might have revealed schmidt involvment. (that depends on IF she finds out. and i bet william would find out, unless he doesnt loose his body like in old canon. then its easier for haruna to manipulate mako. (to clarify. mako isnt easy to manipulate, but i think with all the pain he has, if she said schmidt is responsible. he will have high chance to act on his pain. especially since he thought they were heroes. (he most likely doesnt know haruna or ty are villains)

and i think mako might spy on haruna or confront her?? or maybe spy on those he can to get answers himself. maybe not trusting he will get answers? or doesnt know who he can trust to ask questions to get the truth

---------- IF haruna manipulates. so haruna would need a big believable lie about why ty was killed. maybe mistaken identity story?? that schmidt tok justice in their own hands and they got wrong person. i'm meh about it. but you get the idea of what i mean that she needs to make up story that mako falls for.

or ty was killed in crossfire (no pun intended) of heroes raiding a place. maybe confessing to them being villains but minimizing their power and role. making it seem like schmidt went too extreme in justice. that they are the same as villains, not following the law. doing what they want.

haruna manipulating mako might fit well. since mako is cyrus friend. so she hopes cyrus will hold back. and hoping that mako will go too extreme.

if she manipulates mako. she has a lot of work to regain his love (getting nightstalker organization destroyed, losing her own powers is a good start. and there is also vic now who can help) payton also helps a lot .................................. the question is just. is it canon cyrus gets badly beaten up and thats where payton finds out the truth? --------------------------------------

------------------------- cyrus bleeding out

one alternate possibility is that cyrus gets injured in suicide squad fight by either a monster or a follower of victor (might even be villains out there who wants to take advantage of the chaos to seek revenge too. however. i dont think that will be canon. i think icarus is watching and keeping eye on them. but damien doesnt know that....

if cyrus got wounded in suicide squad fight it might be by something that happend so far icarus didn't get chance to react (for example if someone shot cyrus?? a follower of victor might have grabbed the gun damien made?? i lean on victor has the gun....then again.. he would need to dump it too? since he doesnt want the boss to be investigated and that tech lands in wrong hands... so its possible vic destroyed it?? or maybe planned to use it on icarus/damien. to at least buy time. i think those bulletts would mess up cyrus body, since it went through tyrek who has insane invulernabilty.

i dont think its canon. even though cyrus being injured would be a good way to trigger even mroe adrenaline in damien (who might still be down, and trying to replicate healing energy) i don't want icarus to break his rule of staying back/ trying ti intervene as little as possible) --------- cyrus bleeding out

IF it's still canon he bleeds out. i think i lean on someone tok advantage of cyrus being wounded by earth manipulator/s and tried to kill him. maybe a nightstalker or former nightstalker ( the villain being a nightstalker or fortmer depends on if icarus tok all nightstalker powers away or not. or it destroying deity haruna was enough. its possible he tok the power away from the highest ranked nightstalkers, or the ones with most followers. to minimize people falling in the "cult". hoping that they dont want deity haruna back if she sees them as food (i bet even with deity haruna fully destroyed, some might be in denial about her being fully gone. especially if they know human haruna is reincarnation of deity haruna. and if she is spared maybe they hope there are other pieces left (it wont, she is the last piece. raiden and ikimi will want their powers gone)

------------------- alternate: cyrus and mako fight and someone grabs the chance to jump coyote. i dont think the organization does it before the nightstalker arc. i like the idea haruna starts everything. which i'm certain is still canon. so if the organization jumps cyrus. it wil be a npc earth manipulator fight and them taking advantage of cyrus needing to recharge or he hasnt noticed them yet.

--------------- alternate possiblity. it's possible that cyrus and payton found safe have before suicide squad timeline? and then it's mako who push cyrus in the portal? impulsive move? maybe cy told the truth down there since it was private? (its not smart of cy to be close to a portal when talking about the truth unless it seems like mako has forgiven things. and he changes his mind??

OR

mako has been trying over and over, to get cyrus to confess? hinting at things in subtle way. and he gets more and more provoked by cyrus not coming clean. so to mako, he sees cyrus as selfish moment? i think mako will be hurt by cyrus. 1 cy being gone. (i think cyrus got his phone destroyed? or turned it off, since old canon he rejects lu's calls. so its likely the phone was destroyed and cyrus refused to open the door when lu came. so to mako. it seems like cyrus has been ignoring him and poofing like he always does. he feels like cyrus should have at least been there for mako and payton when they needed him.

I think i lean on when cyrus finds out their uncle is gone he comforts payton (since he might hear it from her during sleepover) and then rush to mako, to explain he lost his phone. (mako will react to why it tok cyrus so long to get new one and that he didn't tell them he lost it) IF mako pushed cyrus. icarus will sense mako was there. maybe he doesnt say anything for now since there is nothing mako can do. what's done is done. icarus knows he fell through a portal. so its best to focus on portal. i like the idea victor is the first person icarus breaks his rule for. so maybe he doesn't tell damien how to create a portal (this will buy cyrus time to get back home.

.............. if mako and cyrus fight. i can see ty, vic (behind the scenes, he is the boss in suicide squad) charlotte, damie and rakel try to solve things, since their crash is impacting their kids. ------------------------------------------------------ IF Mako and cyrus fight. who stops the fight? - if rakel and the others are looking for cyrus. rakel and damien are gone in different worlds. then maybe it's payton who stops the fight? maybe mako yells about coyote (or mako might just say "he". (maybe doesnt say cyrus is coyote, maybe since he knows how important cyrus identity is. and to show mako is still viewing cyrus as his friend or still tries to respect him and before he gets to explain much, maybe payton takes the helmet off to check if cyrus is okay?

If cyrus found safe haven and kept it secret (he is distant to his parents) that might open up for the deal damien makes to cyrus. if he trains cyrus, cyrus needs to promise to not go down there alone (and be with people he can trust)

-------------------------- cyrus versus mako, who is strongest??

i don't know who would win in a fight between the two. Mako might win now because of how diverse magic is? then again. cyrus has energy absorption to tire mako out and battery himself. but cy also needs to fire a lot of energy to block a attack or absorb magic to try to prevent getting hit. while mako can cast defencive spells. casting spells require energy. it might be similar scenario like dami versus vic. vic being the strongest (if icarus doesn't help damien, since icarus is immune to victors magic, but like in suicide squad. he doesn't help because he allwos chaos to happen for the world to balance itself) ( i laugh imagining cyrus gaining omni energy in the future. and can be mako's immune punching. or mako picking up a fight and being annoyed at cy being immune. fddsf although i dont think he would pick a fight. they more likely to spare. it's either annoying him sometimes or make it even more fun since mako can unleash all his magic on a target that is immune. meaning he doesnt need to hold back fdssfdsdf (cy might feel awkward since mako will likely wreck his clothes fdsfddf I can see cy hoard on change of clothes for those types of scenarios. or mako cast a spell to repair clothes ffsdsfd -----------------

mako and haruna relationship

IF mako fights cyrus. then he will be mad at haruna that he got in a fight because of things haruna started. he will also be upset at ty. (ty did the best he could, but he knew if he didnt act fast, she has high chance to kill cyrus before he can talk her out of it)and haruna was his wife back then. if it was any other type of villain he would have killed the villain on the spot.

i dont think i mind this crash? maybe it functions as something to push haruna even more in the direction to protect the people she cares about and make it right? ----------------------------

I'm sharing these concepts because the topic of "revenge" "maybe cyrus put someones dad in jail" came back. and i disliked that idea the most for a earth manipulator villain. since i thought maybe it was least ? but now. with mako's backstory. I like the idea of cyrus opponent might be motivated by emotions. and it's not revenge. like the text i wrote above it's more about both being in pain and more complex to it.

and mako also fits in the other category i mentioned about possible motives: someone who feels wronged by society? or at least conflict towards society although mako feeling wronged by society is when he finds out about vic. realize everything he lost because of society. there are notes in makos page about this.

------------------- TYREKS BODY IS "STOLEN" by a stranger. My ocs doesn't know it's victor disguised as haruna who stole tyreks body. they think vic is dead but nate will react to it. so it's possible nate talks to abby in private about how the hand gestures reminds him of victor (this opens up for mako to try to snoop even more. find out who "victor" is and go through his parents stuff. i think the main think mako will do. is go after cyrus. he wants his uncle to have proper burial. i dont think nate would talk about victor to others than safe haven people. especially not to haruna. making it possible for mako to overhear things. They might think they are alone in the house or thta mako is sleeping. ONE PROBLEMSOLVING THAT MIGHT PROVOKE MAKO INTO ATTACKING CYRUS - easiest way to problemsolve this. is that mako doesn't hear about his parents talking ------------------------------ (forgot to say. Cy will win against earth manipulator npc/s. However I leave it open he might get jumped by a nightstalker(or former nightstalker if icarus tok all nightstalker powers away. since he will be beaten up by earth manipulators. its a smart move to jump cyrus and this is how payton finds out cy is coyote. this art tab; https://toyhou.se/3667853.cyrus-septimus-schmidt-coyote/25564975.paytonfindoutcyiscoyoteconcept (the art above MIGHT be mako too. but i think it requires manipulation from haruna. OR mako overhear his parents talk about ty body being stolen. and he belives cyrus knows. and he is refusing to stop fighting until he gets answers from cyrus. cyrus has no idea who tok ty's body. last he saw was everything collapsing.)

another reason mako might wonder if it's lu and cyrus who tok tyreks body. is that lu can create illusions. so mako might think it's lu creating a believable show that he was haruna so they could get ridd of evidence of the murder. i think nate would talk about how either the person is a good actor (lu) or someone who is genuinely close to tyrek (victor). and mako wonder if its lu, since he hasn't heard of anyone named victor (charlotte might have casr a memory spell on the kids, depends on when vic disappeared) I dont think mako will confront his parents. i think he is more likely to continue to listen so its higher chance to hear the truth, than to confront and risk they are lying to him.

if mako found out that lu knows victor (Maybe he asks lu about "who is victor?" and lu slips briefly? its been a long time since lu has heard that name. or that lu reacts in a way that mako can tell lu knows vic. then mako will suspect that lu is faking being victor (who is pretending to be haruna fdfsf inception of disguises.. -------------------

does payton keep cyrus secret? or does she accidently reveal anything. I think i lean on she is able to keep it secret. if she said something like cyrus is sleeptalking/fighting and crying in his sleep. mako will also find out (which he most likely already does) if she says someting like he said "mom....dad....father/icarus (i think he is more likely to say father than icarus in his sleep) help" mako will wonder if cyrus parents were involved. but i dont think this will be canon. although if he thought icarus tok ty. he would join haruna in hating icarus .but i dont think that will be canon. i think he finds out enough by his own and payton isnt making anything worse or better... or...she might be able to make things better?? if mako only sees cyrus happy. and payton talks about cyrus crying in his sleep. or that she is able to sometimes see cyrus have sad expressions. mako will know cyrus feels guilt/remorse for whatever he was involved in tyreks death.

and mako will suspect cyrus wasnt alone (although he knows damien is scientist.... so he might wonder if damieb built something (which he did. the gun) since he knows cyrus cant possibly done this alone. he will want to find out who else was responsible for his death.

if haruna tells mako about the mask being burned to tyreks face. she didnt see it. she only heard from others and that the person tok her identity so they could steal tyreks body. he will be furious about it. that rage is something haruna can use or mako acts on his own without haruna getting involved. -------------------------------- is it possible that if mako sees payton and cyrus together, it might provoke mako even more? Payton is helping cyrus with his trauma. but its possible that mako is in so much pain over losing ty. that he dislikes seeing cyrus happy. + also fearing cyrus will disappear and hurt payton again. and he dislikes that cyrus killed ty, their uncle, and here cyrus is. getting close to payton, tyreks niece (daughter)

---------------------------------------------- paintberri text Here is cyrus art tab https://toyhou.se/3667853.cyrus-septimus-schmidt-coyote/25627739.aftermathtyrekidentityrevealed

Mako art tab: https://toyhou.se/12790474.mako-kowalczyk/26336942.aftermathtyrekidentityrevealed

I will try to post art on the same tabs since they are connecte to each other.

It's missing pages where cyrus is screaming in frustration and firing of energy in the air/storm.

it's so weird to see him have serious face fds mako is trying to protect his face from the rain/easier to see.

I can def imagine that one thing that will upset mako the most (if he finds out cyrus was invoved with tyreks murder. I lean on he most likely finds out or suspect it) is seeing cyrus get close to payton. 1. he wants payton to find out the truth now, than later. He doesn't want payton to get hurt again. he knows she will get hurt even if she hears the truth early on. Seeing the next art i will post after this mako art. I also think mako might be open to listen. especially seeing how cyrus is breaking down. And i dont think mako is comfortable with how close cyrus is to the water. it was accident that the waves became so rough but i think it might accidently work in the story favor. i can imagine mako will be concerned for cyrus too. And if cyrus was able to fake being "okay" and be able to trick mako (low chance he is that good at faking it, he might have stayed away from mako more, since he knows mako has higher chance to see through him) so mako seeing cyrus this vulnerable and with remose. might be what he needed. it feels anticlimatic. so idk yet. but i think this art is canon. cyrus knows. mako most likely saw everything. and his hands are still glowing fdsfd it's so weird not seeing him smile fsddffds I will def draw happy goofy moments with him dfsf i've had this image of cyrus by forest for long time. and since i got the idea of mako as the specific person to see cyrus slip and use his powers out in the open. i had to quickly sketch it.

one thing I think i sometimes i get image of is. if mako overhears nate talk about the person who stole tyrek. i think nate would talk about how either the person is a good actor (lu) or someone who is genuinely close to tyrek (victor). and mako wonder if its lu. or if he might think about cyrus as possible suspect when he sees cyrus break down like this.

conflict can also be cyrus refusing to say who helped him. he might take all the blame (maybe out of guilt) which will anger mako if cyrus lies. cyrus could try and lie about dami making illusion device (damien has made them) and confess about the gun to explain how he managed to defeat tyrek. idk how i feel about these ideas. sharing just in case.

------------------------------- DOES MAKO OVERHEAR THE MASK BEING BURNED TO TYREKS FACE? the kids are told a lie about how tyrek died. so they don't know (except for mako) If mako overhears the mask being burned and IF cyrus is able to convince mako only he is responsible (probably briefly convince mako since i think mako will realize he questions cyrus. that cyrus wasn't alone. for example. why did ty and cyrus end up in a fight to begin with. cyrus will take too long to give a answer or the answer isn't convincing enough) he will become upset. if cyrus explain he shot ty in self defence. mako will question why cyrus burned the mask. wasnt shooting ty enough? or couldnt he just shot tyrek again as final blow instead of torturing by melting the mask to tyreks face?

it will also be a lot to digest for mako to hear ty was a villain (its possible he gets the feeling ty is villain when overhearing nate and abby talk.

maybe mako goes a bit easier on cyrus, since cyrus is the first to at least give him some truth about what is going on.

one thing i can see mako demands answers about is why they crashed. which might be were mako will realize cyrus is covering for someone (i think he suspects that from the start but he will lean more on its true as they talk?)

depending if lu has returned to the family yet. mako will suspect its lu. if lu hasnt showed up to family yet. then he doesnt know it's lu.

It's possible mako is easier to trick (Until maybe he questions about the mask being burned to tyreks face) because he is in vulnerable state mentally like cyrus is.

cyrus is put on the spot. Cyrus knows mako knows he is coyote because mako saw cyrus use his powers. (and he probably tells cyrus to quit the act. cyrus might put on fake smile facade and praying mako didn't see cyrus fire energy up in the air) and then if mako confronts cyrus about the body. cyrus isn't mentally prepared. he is already shocked over finding out ty is part of mako and paytons family.

------------ does mako request cyrus take him to the crime scene?

i lean on mako will request cyrus take him to the area. so he can get confirmation he is telling the truth and doesnt give cyrus a chance to make up new stories. but i think cyrus will eventually give in and tell the truth (its possible mako ends up believing cyrus and he just wants to see the crime scene for himself since his family lied about tyrek death)

---------------------------------- ------------ IF mako overhears his parents talk about the mask being melted (this fits as something cyrus can do with his powers. and lu too (but he doesnt know lu is back)

maybe mako asks why cyrus melted the mask to tyrek face he will also ask why he melter the mask to tyreks face. couldne he just shot tyrek again to put him out of his misery maybe cyrus lies about running out of bullets (taking all the blame and also because he is caught off guard by mako knowing it. and because he wasnt expecting it. he also makes bad explanations because he is trying to block the trauma. and maybe answer as fast as he can to make it believable. he could also say because he ran out of bullets, melting the mask was the best idea he got. he wasn't thinking straight. he was scared and panicked.

maybe mako thinks cyrus did it out of revenge for lu?? (then again, if mako mentions lu. then cyrus has to confess lu is allive. since mako will find out sooner or later. unless cy tells lu to stay low for awhile because of the risk of mako finding out lu was involved in killing tyrek. (it's possible that ty might have gotten killed by the bullets alone, but lu tok away the chance of survival + sped up the process. -----------------

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it's possible that no matter what mako believes cyrus did. he might lash out because he doesn't know how to cope/handle the pain of loss.

and cyrus knows how it feels to loose a uncle/father figure. Lu was the same to him and he thought lu was dead for awhile (i think it was a year???)

and this is what cyrus feared when tyrek died. that ty had family and friends. he never wanted to inflict this type of loss on anyone. so i can see cyrus do his best to try to comfort mako, even if cyrus is beaten up to a pulp.

cyrus will feel awful that he didn't get new phone and wasnt there for mako when mako needed him (he apologizes for it and does his best to make up for it after he hears from payton that they lost their uncle.- and if they end up fighting. cyrus will do his best to comfort mako, since mako will also show his true self (if they end up fighting) its possisble that mako made a facade in the past? or he didn't want to listen to cyrus (especially if he hears about cy and payton having fun, like if payton sends images to mako (cy will stop her if he sees she is about to tell mako about the fun they are doing to cyrus. he gets comfort from payton. and he is afraid mako will see through him. and to mako. he will feel hurt being ghosted. and even more hurt to see cy have fun with payton (especially later when he suspects cy is involved in tyreks death in some way

and if mako knows everyone are lying about tyrek. he might take all that anger out on cyrus because he struggles with coping with all of it -------------------------- IF mako ask cyrus why he didnt tell them cyrus will say he didn't know who ty was.

there are other things I could have used (if cyrus knew for longer time, for example) -lu showed him haruna is a villain who tok over ty's business. safe haven people like nate (maybe abby too) were there, so cyrus was afraid to put his family in danger. -cyrus didnt want to taint his friends memories of tyrek. its bad enough to loose a family member

HOWEVER, only way for these explanations to be canon, is if mako pretends he didn't see what cyrus did. OR. he supports cyrus (and he is internally maybe disgusted by himself, comforting someone he suspects is his uncles killer) mako is trying to get cyrus to open up. and later tries to get cyrus to confess. and when cyrus continues to lie. maybe mako push cyrus in the portal? i dont think mako planne to push him in the portal. (i would need to change the timeline if portal is canon. that the group found safe haven before they found out ty is allive) in the revamp, originally they find safe haven after suicide squad timeline. ---------------------------------- it feels a bit anticlimatic that they don't fight. and this is perfect scenario to show a different side to mako. It seems like a lost opportunity to not use this as the one rare incidents were these two crash (and also make up) especially since i don't think there will be anything that will make him hit rock bottom than this. losing his uncle. seeing everyone lie around him. even his best friend. (its possible after they fight or cy is confronted, that cyrus tell the truth. i lean on maybe its after they fight) I think i lean on mako overhearing the truth about how tyrek died (probably nate and abby asking haruna about what to tell the kids and make it closed coffin or make charlotte cast a spell to help trick the kids etc) and haruna is confused what they are talking about. she had no idea ty was gone. and then they find out someone stole tyreks body, disguised as haruna. so mako hears the story when nate and abby explain to haruna what they witnessed. and i lean on mako hearing details about how tyreks body is found. like the mask being burned to his face, i think that mask being burned is probably the biggest role in what will provoke mako. mako will be upset if he believes cyrus did it. or if he suspects cyrus is defending somoene. he will be upset cyrus will protect someone who is that brutal towards a villain (mako is aggressive too, but he doesn't want to hurt/kill anyone like that) and this is good way to show mako figuring out things. and a kid versus kid. since it has alwaysb een adults fighting. from what i remember...IF its canon they fight physically. i think this could be the most emotional fight (it will be emotional that damien goes in the reality warp but i have strong feeling that this cyrus and mako fight wil be more emotional than the reality warp. even thought schmidt think they will lose damien. there is somethng about the despair and loss, of cy and mako, both being at rock bottom. (and its also possible mako has been drinking too. Making him easier to trick and higher chance for him to lash out) this could be the first time i've made a fight were the MAIN motives isn't about protecting someone physically. there is some conflict between dami and cyrus. cy wanting to see justice and dami wants the cops to handle the case to protect family. (depending on timeline, if mako doesnt confront him. cyrus is doing it to protect his family from haruna) the main motives are it's just two broken people who doesn't know how to cope with their pain, despair, loss etc. I lean on cyrus finds out about ty identity and mako confronts him straight away (he has connected the dots or at least suspect it and get more confirmation cyrus is guilty when he sees how he runs out and breaks down in the open. cyrus would never use his power out in the forest like this if he was thinking clearly. he is extremely paranoid to be seen even when its stormy and hard to see outside. it might also be a referance to victor. i think he also take his anger out on tyrek (its mainly to take osiris away from ty. but he might lash out at ty, if he thinks damien is just the start of the people they will loose if ty continues to be in his way. he wants to protect the kids by taking their powers away in case if they havent consented already)

Me: doesnt want to do too much drama. but same time. i will focus on goofy stuff too. and this might seem like a lost opportunity with mako and cyrus. so i think i lean on mako is one earth manipulator oppoenent and then there are npc earth manipulators. i know the npc will be canon. the question is. will he fight with mako as well. ----------------- extra notes why cyrus might take all the blame for tyreks death AND

DOES MAKO FIND OUT TYREK IS HIS DAD? (I lean on he doesnt find out about charlotte and victor as other parents) if mako overhears ty is his dad ( i think i want mako to be unaware of vic and charlotte as his parents, i think nate and abby talk about maybe its best to not tell the kids who their parents are. so mako knows ty is one and he is dead. and maybe he fears they wont tell who his mother (and dad) are. if mako confess to saying ty is his dad. its possible that cyrus takes all the blame because he can't handle the pain anymore. cy made one step forward emotionally through paytons support. but now it's two steps back for finding out who tyrek is + hearing ty is makos dad. and now mako lost chance to find out about his family. -------------------------- cyrus taking all the blame and maybe defending lu. lying to mako about what happened. -cyrus finds out tyrek killed his uncle -cy confronts tyrek -cy becames scared because of his ptsd with earth manipulators and accidently pulled the trigger -tyrek was fighting with his last remaining strenght. sending the gun flying away from cyrus -cyrus panics, he doesnt have the gun. he fears for his life. and uses whatever he can think of , like the mask, to melt it to tyreks face.

I lean on cyrus then says he didn't take the body. BUT, if he is self destructive and mako keeps pushing on about "where is the body" and doesnt believe cyrus is innocent. -cyrus then use the illusion to pretend to be haruna and take the body. he panicked about what he had done. he was also scared to be killed by the henchmen (mako needs to talk about things like "my family saw you take the body! where is it")

OR if cyrus talks about no one was there. cyrus tok the body. mako will realize that cyrus didnt take the body. people saw him. he wasnt alone. and it would benefit cyrus story more, if he said he panicked because he saw people coming over. if cyrus said he tok the body before people came. he will realize cyrus is lying about taking the body.

the question is... does cyrus lie about something like "the fucked up thing is. i found out my uncle is in witness protection" or cyrus accepts whatever mako will do to him. and doesnt bring up lu. hoping mako wont connect the dots about lu being there. its possible that cy might make up a story about lu being in witness protection and he found out about the witness protection after tyrek died. its very suspicious and convenient that cyrus finds out lu is allive. which might be where mako realize cy us lying. or maybe cyrus says that tyrek confessed to lu being allive. maybe ty talks about witness protection thing?? or that ty said lu was allive and cyrus didn't believe him? they argued and cyrus accidently pulled the trigger??

or that cyrus doesnt mention lu at all. he isn't thinking well to begin with. shocked that mako saw him use his powers + now confronted about tyrek. tyrek was the worst part. and he is consumed with guilt. --------------------------- does mako suspect damien??? IF payton talks about nightmares cyrus has like saying "mom...dad....help me" mako might wonder if damien did it?? especially if he has seen damien meeting tyrek more frequently. if he doesnt know lu is back yet. haruna doesnt seem to fond of damien. and damien/icarus is probably a big mystery to people. they know he blew up a bridge and done support things. (i dont think mako knows about damien being icarus deity ?? unless haruna has talked about icarus. its possible that when harunas kids shapeshift into nightstalkers in front of payton. mako is most likely there too. idk how much history haruna gives. maybe not?? to keep it secret?? maybe he snoops and finds histories? or maybe haruna gives a history. as manipulation to try to get mako on her side?? use mako against cyrus and spy on schmidt?? IF haruna is manipulating. mako might think haruna was right (IF he suspects damien)

i think this is least likely scenario. its higher chance he might suspect damien but not be aware of icarus story?? or suspect lu. ----------------

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one possible scenario is that cyrus might suspect tyrek is his friends uncle(dad) since their uncle died same time cyrus disappeared.and when he sees tyreks photo the guilt kicks in-

but i like that cyrus finds out who tyreks is when he sees the picture. but that could give cyrus excuses to say he was quiet because he didnt want to ruin their memories etc, that i wrote about.

i like that cy finds out when he sees picture. and maybe mako is smart enough to suspect that cyrus didnt know who tyrek was . and maybe starts "soft" on cyrus. like asking where the body is. and then quickly escalates to aggression since he is unable to handle his emotions. ---------------------------------------------------- the question is just... does payton stop the fight? or does she find out who cyrus is if he is jumped by a npc villain? (a villain who takes advantage of cyrus being wounded by earth manipulator npcs? i lean on there are several earth manipulators since i think that can be a interesting fight + show people not fighting fair. and to show cy facing his fear. to not being able to handle one earth manipulator, to handling a group. ------------------------- HOW MAKO MOGHT HAVE OVERHEARD HIS PARENTS TALK maybe mako was on his way to haruna? and he overhears nate and abby asking about ty? haruna is confused and shocked to hear ty is dead. she wasnt aware of it. mako hears all of them are confused about what happened. maybe they went to haruna to ask haruna about what type of lie to tell the kids about tyreks death. and this is where mako finds out ty is dead? and he knows they are all lying --------------------------------------------- FIGHT SCENARIOS/POSSIBLE REFERENCES Mako might stick to earth manipulation powers (then he has most likely revealed he is cyrus team mate. since i think he pretends to be earth manipulator (its possible he has earth powers too, like payton, she has mix of powers. and it fits with safe haven frankenstein creating super soldiers)

tyrek had his mask melted to his face. torture and couldnt breathe. so it's possible mako might use the river and he almost drowns cyrus (maybe this is were mako realize he is going to far and that he is hurting his best friend (i think he might be so enraged that he forgets he is fighting his best friend? although his pain comes from his best friend lying to him or that his friend killed his uncle. the fighting might come from mako being confused about who cyrus really is.

especially since mako gets to see cyrus as civilian and as coyote. so he will be caught by surprise/horrified when he suspects cy was involved in a murder and to cover it up. he thought cy was the type to turn himself in or at least tell the truth to people invoved.

i dont think this next thing is canon. but it was accidental. i kept thinking about how cyrus always wanted to be like lu and damien. and icarus almost drowned when he blew up the bridge. so mako might be like "you wanted to be like your dad" but i dont think mako thinnks that. i think all the focus is about what mako thinks cyrus did to ty. or the person cyrus is covering up for. so mako "recreating" the fight, like cyrus not being able to breathe. might also be to make cyrus relive what tyrek did. either for cyrus to experience what he did to someone else. or for cy to experience what the person cyrus is covering up for, did to tyrek. i think that scene with water might be last scene. its also possible mako's last actions is punching cyrus and then stops when he sees what he is doing and sees how broken cyrus is. and with mako's powers being magic. i bet he can heal cyrus. so he (and cyrus. i bet he takes cyrus with him. either to the area where it happened and then back home. or they go home to party and the morning cyrus show mako where it all happened)

i can imagine them going back to the party. both keeping a laughing facade, laugh about being soaked and need to change clothes. payton think everything is normal. ----------------------------------

to clarify: i think it will be mako versus cyrus and then cyrus versus npc earth manipulator/s (i lean on a group) with possibility he might get jumped AFTER he won the fight.

I also have to correct myself. it can still be emotional/personal for npc, or at least personal if they were hired to take cy.

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think i lean on mako is one earth earth manipulator oppoenent and then there are npc earth manipulators/s (i lean on a group) with possibility he might get jumped AFTER he won the fight.

i know the npc will be canon.

the question is. will he fight with mako as well.

I also have to correct myself. it can still be emotional/personal for npc/s that fight cy. or at least personal if they were hired to take cy. I havent decided if the earth manupulators are hired or fighting because of their own personal reasons. I know that cy got soome behind bars when searching for ty (he was more informant, telling other heroes since he wasn't capable of fighting earth manipulators because of his ptsd. i have notes about this in cyrus tab somewhere about him taking down other earth manipulators. and i think i wrote about it here on paitnberri too. ------------------------------

https://toyhou.se/3667853.cyrus-septimus-schmidt-coyote/26352040.mako-versus-cyrus-concepts#79314293 Concept: This might be after cy and mako fight. And cyrus comes back to the party (either cy has shown the crime scene or is staying over so he can show mako where it all happened) i lean on mako will request cyrus take him to the place after they fight they laugh and lie about cy falling in the river and mako jumped after him.

payton will be oblivious. Note to self: cyrus can use his scars as proof about the things tyrek did to him. If he takes all the blame about how he fought in self defence. he has scars to back it up. it's also possible mako sees the scars when they go back home. if mako ruined his illusion watch (it seems to be working since his scars doesnt appear in this art) or he just wants longer sleeves so he can take the watch off. they will need to change clothes (probably take shower too from fighting, falling in the water, getting dirty etc) i can imagine mako will be horrified if he sees the scars. it will help repair their relationship.i'm certain mako will be pissed at ty and will demand answers when ty is ressurected. Mako will be furious at haruna when he finds out the truth. and also mad at ty. (but it's explained in the tab why ty "couldn't do more" ty did everything he could with the time he had. ---------------------------------------------------------- mako can help cyrus with building the courage to talk to tyrek. originally i wondered if it would be payton but now i think it's mako since he knows cyrus is a hero.

---------------------- --------- CYRUS TAKING MAKO TO THE CRIME SCENE. when cyrus take mako to the crime scene. is william there?? or is there drones/cameras there? if there is camera or small drones (very high chance, in case if the person who tok tyreks body came back. it happens that the killer comes back to the crime scene.

unless mako shows magic skills like invicibility. (which is high chance he does. since he most likely heals cyrus after their fight, so it just seems like they fell in the water because they are soaked. although they dont need to come up with falling in the water. they ran out in the storm dfsfdfd so they could just talk about the stom

and its possible that mako overhears haruna/nate and abby talking about william investigating the crime scene. so mako most likely knows someone is there. cyrus will be shocked to hear william be there (especially if william is his uncle through marriage to arin) william is close friend with damien no matter what his relationship with arin is. If william is cyrus uncle. i see the crack (maybe canon) of mako questioning what is up with cyrus uncles fdsfd

maybe mako and cyrus question who they can trust?? and maybe mako sees from cyrus perspective about it's not easy to come clean when there seems to be mixed alliances (it's not mixed alliances. it's facade alliance. safe haven people are loyal to safe haven people. but they are helping haruna out because of ty and try to keep everyone safe -----------------

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does cyrus and mako see lu with william?? IF i make it canon that lu went after william. I dont think it's canon anymore. but i cant deny the possiblity. that they are there to stop lu i laugh at the crack of them both gawking witnessing a murder (kind of, william survived but he lost his body in old canon. Lives through technology)

Like i mentioned in other tabs. I lean on william doesn't loose his body since it helps nightstalker arc. the question is just if William talks to rakel and damien (maybe he gives the recording to them? so they see all the damage lu has done? especially cyrus. + he is showing is as proof he was always on safe havens ocs side and with schmidt. and maybe they aren't aware lu is back yet? if lu is back i'm certain damien will already suspect lu. so i think i lean on in revamp lu hasn't come back yet. -------------------------------------------------------

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or does lu show mako harunas business?? like this scene: https://toyhou.se/3667853.cyrus-septimus-schmidt-coyote/26355631.crossfire-aftermath-haruna

its maybe more likely they might confront lu? and he shows them harunas business?? he knows where different locations are . -----------------

----------------------------------------- mako cyrus find out who tyrek identity is cyrus versus mako going to the crime scene of tyreks murder: I'm certain william has drones there (possible mako heard this, and this is why they wait next day to go there, find illusion devices (but they still cant talk. and it's possible that william has sensors picking up there is someone there. Or they take advantage of the storm and walk up there. might be funny if they aren't aware of the drones (since they are hidden and small. some might shaped like insects. and william hears everything that happened. i don't think williams computer is in harunas workspace. he doesnt trust her with the recordings. they are safe with him. i laugh imagining william deleting the files. 1. he doesn't want cyrus or mako in trouble. especially not cyrus. cyrus has been through enough. and if he hears cyrus talk. william will see how traumatic it is for cyrus to talk/think about it.

of course the video could be used against lu. but that means cy would have to go through trial.

if there are cameras there. it's a advantage that it's stormy. Will make it harder for the cameras to pick up sounds? it's possible things are flying everywher.

The boys couldn't fly to avoid making sound of walking up to the crime scene. they will still need invisibility spell or illusion device since i'm certain cameras will be pointing up at the sky in case if the killer can fly and comes back + to be on the safe side in case if any civilians walk up to the crime scene or flies past it. -------------------------------------------

THE NPCS EARTH MANIPULATOR/S AND POSSIBLE VILLAIN WHO HIRED THEM (IF they are hired. it's possible they are earth manipulators who were put in jail when cyrus looked for mayhem and they found out cy/coyote was informant)

--------------------------------- - Possible villain (if earth manipulators was hired - One of the few loyal nightstalkers left to deity haruna -harunas family?

ONE POSSIBLE CONCEPT OF THE NPC if this is canon about cyrus getting hurt. https://toyhou.se/3667853.cyrus-septimus-schmidt-coyote/25564975.paytonfindoutcyiscoyoteconcept

cyrus has been punching bag enough or gotten badly hurt but i do also like it visually as possible way for payton to find out coyote is cyrus SUPER CLICHE IDEA but then again. It can change things up from cyrus. That he had chance to get out of the way, but he pushed mako out of danger instead (maybe the villain wanted to take them both). it can showcase mako's cocky side (IF he is cocky. he is strategic, strong and intelligent. but it's possible that because of these strenghts. he is cocky or at least lower his guard to maybe celebrate their victory.

it's possible the villain wanted mako, and cyrus pushed him away. i lean on the villain might have wanted cyrus, or both since cyrus has provoked a lot of villains. earth manipulators + the nightstalker organization. -------------------------------- npc earth manipulator or villain open up for alliance with haruna with other ocs. since they might have common enemy/enemies

If the villain wanted to take them both. it opens up for alliance with haruna. She will want mako to be safe because if payton. and i think she is attached to mako and cares for him like she does with payton.

----------------- Mako and cyrus being vulnerable spot to be attacked by villains when icarus/dami and vic/selcouth go to destroy deity haruna soul. I think it's high chance others will join in witnessing it. Like mako and cyrus. so i dont think this will be canon way for mako and cyrus to be in more danger. 1. mako will want to see everything, as does cyrus. especially since cyrus might take over as icarus successor (not full time. he doesn't want to be fully fused with icarus/dad. it's more like whenever he summons icarus when going out for hero stuff. thats when they fuse. icarus might be in the helmet or i lean on more is that cyrus just says icarus name to summon him. it's possible that icarus will request cyrus will focus on balance like damien did? i think cyrus will want balance so it's possible icarus doesn't need to ask about that since they are already on the same page about it (but there will be scenarios were cy won't be comfortable, were icarus won't help cyrus, like he did with damien in suicide squad. allowing some destruction to happen for balance) and i bet there are other ocs ready to jump in if its serious. like ty (its possible osiris/ty also joins damien or they stay to protect family since they have kicked a hornets nest by destroying the nightstalker organizaiton back to the point. i think it's more likely the villain tok advantage of the guys being wounded/tired from a fight. and he attacked before cy could recharge himself. it's possible that cyrus issue was being badly beaten up, and before mako gets chance to heal cyrus, cyrus gets jumped. or the villain attack them both and cy only has the strenght left to push mako out of the way. -------------------------------------

--------------------- IF cyrus is jumped by a villain or he pushes mako out of the way from a attack. (it can show mako the consequences of lowering his guard. he put his team mate in danger) it will be last time cyrus is badly beaten. he has been through enough.

i dont mind him getting in dangerous situations/action. but then he will win. like him winning against earth manipulator/s. i lean on he will be getting bad beating but he will still be standing and okay (leave it open someone might take advantage of that situation since villains doesnt fight fair) so cy loosing that "stealth attack" it would be loss due to unfair fight.

--------------------------------------------------- ------------------- it's also possible he might have pushed payton away?? it seems even more cliche that it's the love interest that is pushed away?? then again. haruna loves payton. so if payton was the target in anyway because they found out payton mattered to haruna. it would force a alliance.

the villain would could find out haruna and payton as close - a npc who spied long enough on haruna to find out the truth (but maybe lest interesting) it would need to be someone in the nightstalker organization, like harunas family? then haruna knows who is behind it. unless harunas family told a npc? so her family has alliance with someon else. i'm meh about that idea of the family going " you tok something from us so we take something from you"

------------- harunas family. it's possible they might see they were wrong and change their ways?? realize they were wrong in pushing haruna away?? or maybe they are one of the few still stuck in their ways? it feels a bit anticlimatic for things to be "ok" between haruna and her family. especially with how everything was destroyed. i'm very certain they feared for their lives (even though i dont think damien killed any human nightstalkers. i think they would still be terrified. haruna was terrified too. i also like the idea of "family is who you choose" and that haruna choose family that isn't blood over family that is her blood. in the past. i think haruna might not fully understood ty seeing safe haven people as part of his family (in addition to biological family) and in old story. she didn't like the idea of ty adopting bexley (she didn't like bexley???or didn't connect with her) so haruna connecting to lester, payton, miyuki (possibly mako) she is choosing who is her family. and maybe haruna doesn't want to connect to her family anymore?? its possible she tried to please her family in the past? or at least is done with her conflict to them. and maybe harunas family might be insulted by the "betrayal" i think icarus wrecking the place probably destroyed the bridge. and haruna knew this when she tells damien/icarus the truth about wanting deity haruna destroyed + accept him taking her powers away to destroy the deity. that the deity disappears with her (or she is the last piece of she goes immortal route. but she still wont have nightstalker powers. so she is useless to the organizaiton. and raide and ikimi will do the same. they want all trace of the deity gone. ------------------------ does cyrus put himself in danger like damien? cyrus has fought humans a lot in the past. but he doesnt want to kill anyone. however. fighting the nightstalker organization. it's possible he might have "warmed up" that he might be forced into those kinds of scenarios? or does he still hold back because of the trauma of shooting tyrek? it's possible all are correct but the order of the timeline is . 1. holds back because of trauma with tyrek 2. fights nightstalker organization. and is warming up to he will be forced to what is neccesary (i think rakel probably kills some nightstalkers since it's line of duty type of thing. even though the suits are extremely sturdy and high tech. she doesn't want to allow the nightstalkers any chance to mess with the suit. she can heal but her priority is to protect her family/friends and support icarus.

or is it a draw between cyrus and the villain that tries to take advantage of the situation? that cyrus is deeply wounded but he fires of a attack at the same time? killing whoever attacked him (it would need to be something dangerous like a nightstalker for cyrus to fire of a attack like that. since if he doesn't fire a attack, he risk getting stung and killed instantly (depends on of the nightstalkers loose their powers or not. if they loose their powers. i dont think think they would have the poison?? I need to check if shapeshifters gain the power of animals they shapeshift into?? i think i lean on IF it's shapeshifter opponent. they either dont have the poison or the poison is something else. like a another dangerous animal/insect etc. and even without the poison. being stung by a nightstalker tail. is high chance to be fatal. the nightstalkers are huge, and would wreck cyrus whole body or bite off limbs if it got chance to bite cyrus or get cyris in its mouth. the claws can also rip him apart. cyrus cant afford the nightstalker to get too close. and if he is deeply wounded. then it seems like the claws was able to scratch him up (realisticly.....i think intestines would be out.... i don't like the image.... but that....would be high chance unless cyrus is able to fire off energy before it it becomes that brutal/gory.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- Plot about "why does cyrus fear death when damien/icarus has resssurected victor?" i'm very certain that if others were killed. damien would ressurect them. however. i also often imagine damien saying "this doesn't give anyone of you free pass to be reckless"

and i also think cyrus would instictively fight back. he doesn't want to be killed or die. he wants to live. and he has scared people around him enough by his self destructive behavior. -----------------------------------------------------------

WILLIAM SEEING CYRUS AND MAKO AT CRIME SCENE FOR AND AGAINST

-I think realisticly, Mako and Cyrus will suspect villains are guarding the crime scene. 1 Guard the possible evidence 2. in case if the killer comes back.

mako and cyrus are intelligent and strategic. And lu and williams works are cops. Cyrus knows a lot about how cops work. and i bet mako knows too because he works in the titans team. and he wants to learn how cops and villains tend to work and mako most likely heard someone is guarding the place.

i like the visuals of the boys being close to the crime scene. It's possible that when they see the place empty they might get close. but i can imagine cyrus talk about possiblity of drones (maybe they use their own drone??)

it's possible the sensors went off when mako and cyrus got close to the crime scene??? mako and cyrus won't be aware of the sensors. but it's possible they went to the area and left quickly. cyrus has trauma watching the place.

the strom might help cover up the sound of footstep (its possible that they flew over to the location. (on a rock mako makes?? mako will either cast a spell or they use a illusion device)

then again... the guys has most likely been drinking + both are a emotional mess so they might have forgotten about the place will most likely be supervised.

i don't mind william finding out. since like i wrote in the tab. he could hand it over to rakel and damien. they have proof lu is allive (i lean on lu hasnt revealed he is allive to his family yet. probably because he wants to hunt down harunas mercenaries so its safer for his family + less suspicious that he comes home too early. damien will find out lu killed ty.

the drones are small, so mako and cyrus will not see it.

it's possible the sensors went off and william doesnt see or hear anything. MAYBE the storm helps with him maybe thinking it was the storm but i lean on he has advanced tech to pick up someone is there.

Oh shit...maybe heat sensors??? i bet mako and cyrus would not expect that one??? although damien could have talked about heat sensors in safe haven...

i think i lean on the guys probably slipped up, because they are both a mess emotionally. so they might have gone up there with invicibility disguise but then spoke? so william if he has sensors or not, can at least hear voices??

another possibility is that cyrus show from distance where the location is. or shows on a google map?? or maybe use a own little drone? damien has lots of tech too. (but i think william would pick up on sensors too? unless its super small + there is a storm, there is alot of stuff flying everywhere.

if its from distance. they are either extremely lucky and standing where trees block them, or if there is heat sensors, they are still somewhat blocked or too hard to identify who it could be?? maybe it seems like two people going out for a walk? (then cyrus has to avoid pointing at the place and they use a illusion device + far away william can't pick up what they are talking about.

they could also go to a high place and use binoculars? it's less personal, and mako can go up to the location later by himself. then william will suspect mako knows but he doesn't know how mako found out.

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I also need to add notes about haruna and her family from mako's tab in the nightstalker arc. the topic about haruna's possible concept about "family is who you choose it to be" and rejecting her blood family. it's possible she knew that from the start the moment she started the plan to get icarus to destroy deity haruna soul. and when she consent icarus take her power away, she might do it in front of others. i havent decided if damien asks her in front of others yet or not. since damien wont do anything that will put the kids in danger. then again. it's probably not a secret at all that haruna is close to payton. especially not to harunas family. and if anyone saw haruna reject their deity. they might be too scared to poke icarus or haruna?? then again...i do like how badass it would be to have haruna reject the deity haruna in front of everyone. they might have talked about payton in anonymous ways.and haruna could have said she did it for the people she loves or mentioned payton in too lower voice. then again. damien is choking her, so she cant speak loud about her motives anyway. it's when she mentions payton that damien lets her go. and she gets the choice to consent to loosing her powers (or have it taken by force by damien) and she gets to play a role in how far damien goes.

that way you get the possible scenario of her rejecting deity haruna in front of everyone but the kids are saved. but the organization will still easily find out payton is one of the people she loves. i lean on there is few nightstalkers villains left. i think they are shocked to learn the truth about deity haruna. they worshipped a lie. (some few extreme are still loyal) i wont go too much in details here since there is tabs about it. i just need to add extra information from mako's page to harunas. and mention possible scenarios of william, if he sees cy and mako at crime scene or not. there are notes about william from this mako concept tab page:

https://toyhou.se/12790474.mako-kowalczyk/26334149.makoversus-cy-earthmanipulator

----------------- william seeing cyrus and mako at crime scene: it's safe for william to see them. it's more about i dont want to nerf mako and cyrus strategic side, but they are higher chance to slip because they are both mentally wrecked and have been drinking. ----------------

crime scene location and problemsolving

- i think william has probably set up something to help protect the evidence from flying away? or maybe he is setting up perimeter?? (is that right word) as the storm is going on?? so cyrus and mako walk away when they see william

------------------------------------------ i like the idea of mako seeing the danger of confessing the truth to payton or anyone because of the confusin alliance people has. + maybe higher chance of finding out the truth by not revealing their cards to anyone yet, especially with the adults talking about lying to the kids

------------------------- REVAMP OF LU'S CAPTURE??? OR DOES LU TAKE MAKO WITH HIM TO SHOW WHAT HARUNA IS DOING?? MAYBE BOTH??? Maybe Cyrus and mako (and the others capture lu?? and he talks about haruna?? as attempt to get them to let him go.

OR lu tells them the truth about haruna. lu hunts down mercenaries working for haruna mako and cyrus reveal to damien and rakel that lu is allive? and they all capture lu

OLD CONCEPT it's more strategic that they grab lu when he least expect it (that requires that lu reveals he is allive like the old canon) and rakel poisons him, so he doesn't get a chance to flee. he is paralyzed and quickly knocked unconscious.

HOWEVER. it might be fun with a "chase" after lu. he has illusions so he will be hard to find.

PROBLEMSOLVING to be aware of IF there is a chase. I can't downplay lucians strenght. but his family and friends are his weakness. cyrus is ignoring lucian. which gives them a opportunity to get lu. i bet cyrus has a number he can call lu on? lu most likely slipped a note about it under cyrus door or put a not in cyrus postcard (it would be anonymous so only cyrus knows what the message means and who wrote it, cant risk anyone snooping in cyrus stuff. and the lu also gets more spotlight. can see his strenght. destroying harunas business, which is still canon. he does maaaasssivee damage to her business. see hos motives. see how tyrek broke lucian and cyrus in different ways. cyrus refused to quit as hero (but he almost gave up living, the breaking point was probably the fight with mako until mako stops fighting him and showing he is as broken as cyrus. both comforting one another, mostly cyrus comforting mako. now he has chance to make up better for not being there for mako. and lu will be extremely eager to make up for what he did and talk to cyrus. and we get to see lu's weakness. family. especially cyrus. lu will want to make up for hurting cyrus the way he did. and if cyrus wants to talk. it opens up for mako and cyrus to set up a trap. which they will really need to have a chance in capturing lu. maybe cyrus has some of rakels poison?? it's also possible that rakel and damien is there too. especially if william came and talked to them.

advantage mako and cyrus has. lu doesnt want to hurt family and friends. so his "fighting" will be creating illusions to escape. so if lu is poisoned. he will eventually drop somewhere fdsfdsdsf and mako and cyrus can pick him up

damien can help with sensing lucian (its grey area. it takes energy to make illusions but lu can mess with senses, so i'm not sure with non omni energy damien will sense him or if he senses him, he might be tricked into thinking lu is on the left side but lu is on the right. but that is also something damien can try to use if its canon. fire of attack in the other areas he doesnt sense lu. or just...absorbs energy to drain lu. lu will need to run. and he desnt have reality warp. and damien is very skilled in energy absorption.

i like the idea of mako and cyrus as main role. i just need to be careful since mako might lash out??? or can this be a way to show mako's self control??? that he uses the anger to motivate him to catch lu?? (he might throw a few punches as justice??) than to go berserk on lu??

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becase of haruna and the story about rakel and dami capture lu, to make deal to keep their family alone. I lean on maybe mako and cyrus tried to capture lu and failed and then rakel and damien capture lu. they either hear lu is allive from mako and cyrus. or more likely. william has told them. so they found out lu is allive (this requires that lu has been going on hunting spree when cyrus has been ignoring lu. or they want lu in prison for killing ty. and they struggle to find lu because of his illusions. (so it's canon lu is going on killing spree for awhile, and no one has been able to get lu they have to wait for lu to reveal he is alive before they capture him? maybe they let lu share a moment with izzy and ilyana?? before they capture him? they pretend they werent aware lu was allive? it still might canon that rakel poisons lu, since he doesn't expect rakel and damien are aware of what he has done. and especially not to be stabbed when he is sitting at the table with them and having normal conversations and thinking he has tricked them.

charlotte problemsolving: maybe charlotte doesn't help with tracking spell since she fears haruna will poison him? she thinks enough lives has been lost? i need to problemsolve why charlotte either cant find lu or doesnt help with finding lu through tracking spell.

or maybe lu has some contacts of his own to help stay hidden?? or uses tech to help stay hidden? then again. ty didn't want to kill cyrus or lu. so maybe charlotte doesnt cast a tracking spell to respect tyreks wishes. ty knew the risk when he went out there to try to scare lu and cyrus into stopping being heroes. in old canon charlotte had visions of tyrek getting killed but she couldn't tell by who, when, etc. Ty felt forced to do it to save schmidt from haruna. so he accepted whatever risk it was.

ty might have been surprised by getting shot. Because maybe Charlotte only saw someone holding tyreks body close to their body (victor disguised as haruna) or that the mask was burned to tyreks face?? and ty can manipulate his mask off, so he might have thought it was another villain? Lu does a lot of fire illusions. so maybe ty thought he was alert enough?? and didnt expect he would dissasociate to the way he did (mentally he is doing his best to block. ec. there are notes about this in other tabs how cyrus managed to shoot ty) i lean on ty most likely expected lu could be one of the enemies. he is smart. so i think he expected it could be lu. and maybe by using cyrus as bait. he thought maybe he put everything in his favor in case if lu got his hands on some tech from damien that could wound him. i lean on ty didn't have a choice because of haruna. he had to scare them before haruna tried to kill them agian. it's also possible that charlottes visions sometimes are so far ahead. its hard to plan aganst who it can be? or make it confusin who it could be. for all they know it could be a new enemy they havent even met yet.

it's also possible charlotte is too scared to go after lu? since ty was taken down. she doesn't think she has a chance against lu either. she doesnt know how lu won or what allies he has. she doesn't want the kids to loose another parent. she, nate and abby are also probably battling if she should tell the truth to payton and mako about charlote, vic and ty are their biological parents. vic and ty is gone. (they don't know vic is the suicide squad boss yet)

They want to have the chance to tell the kids the truth about who the biological parents are. they dont want the truth to get lost if they are the next targets and are killed the same way as lu. although they suspected abby might be safe (unless she is with haruna to keep a strong "front" when she takes over the organization.

one of the main reasons charlotte can't help with tracking spell. is that she doesn't know who defeated tyrek. when she doesn't know who did it. she can't cast the tracking spell ty is the strongest in their group. so they know whoever it is. they need a plan

them: terrified Reality: ty dissasociating, and it was damiens custom made gun damien: clueless about the amount of fear he accidently spread

Maybe charlotte fears it's damien?? He can burn the mask. He has icarus. and if she suspects it's Icarus she prays that she isn't next. She is magic user. Icarus is immune. so she might wonder if Damien has gained omni energy or built some tech to defeat tyrek. Damien has been meeting tyrek more frequently. This needs Charlotte to know about icarus strenght. Either through her fusion with her deity or osiris has talked about icarus strenght. or selcouth. Most likely selcouth??? Selcouth shares things with victor. But they would be careful and not tell damien since icarus wants damien to find out things on his own.

to clarify: if anyone, vic, charlotte, ty slipped and gave damien information. icarus wouldn't do anything to them. i'm certain that victor slipped when he begs dami/icarus to ressurect his family. icarus doesn't get upset with victor since vic has been through enough.

if anyone slipped for other reasons. Icarus might be a bit annoyed?? (depends on if its secretetive or not) but he won't harm them fsdd

or they might wonder if lu got help from damien. since they know lu is allive out there. they just don't know what ty was doing that specific day.

because nate picks up on: either the person who stole the body is a good actor (lu illusions) or someone who was close (victor) (there are notes about how he noticed this in other tabs and pictures. Here's pictures of vic disguised as haruna: https://toyhou.se/12789441.victor-kowalczyk/25920681.crossfire-aftermath-part-1

why safe haven might suspect it's damien who defeated tyrek or that damien helped lu damien has illusion technology. and he is close to ty. so its not far off they might think damien did it. he has the power and the technology to defeat tyrek before he gains omni energy IF icarus helps him (otherwise dami would get killed by ty if he fights before ganining omni energy fdsdfdf. unless dami was sneaky and sniped ty with the gun he made. damien has motives: damien experienced someone tried to poison his family with nightstalker poison and damien knows what type of poison it is. ty talked him out of it to investigate it. talked about the nightstalker organization (to save damien from haruna) cyrus has non stop tried to get damien to join in solving the case. so they might wonder if cyrus succeeded i convincing damien. damien is close to tyrek damien is also very emotional type. they would be correct in damien would make the same crying despair response to tyrek being dead. ------------- does mako suspect it's damien who killed ty?? if he overhears these things?? maybe mako comments "it was your dad, wasn't it??" (especially if payton talks about cyrus sleepingtalking saying "Mom...dad....father help" i dont think payton will talk about it. but i wont say its impossible. i dont think mako needs to hear about sleeptalking to suspect rakel and damien being involved

if mako accuses damien. maybe thats when cyrus says it was lu. not damien. (although he will talk about he got the gun from dami, and talk about how reluctant/hesitant dami was to hand the gun over to begin with. damien didin't want cyrus to end up in situation where he would need to use it. but someone tried to poison them. and cyrus has provoked a lot of villains. he wants cyrus to be safe. which opens up for cyrus to mention the poison incident. the nightstalkers and mako founds out more about nightstalkers and harunas involvement with all of this. cyrus will also show his scars about self defence against tyrek. and maybe mako can also help cyrus figure out there has to be something more going on. if ty wanted cy and lu dead. they would be. mako knows how strong ty is. so he will be confused if he hears about the fight and can tell something isn't right. and ty becomes extremely upset if he sees kids get hurt. Even though Cy is 17 or 18 when he is beat up. Ty would still see cyrus as a kid. And would refuse to beat him up. Haruna is protected because she is his wife and mother to raiden and ikimi fdsdf (which she uses to her advantage. she knows ty won't hurt her, giving her a lot of openings. and ty knows this. when they are divorced he threatens to bury the remaining of their business (he did most work of building it anyway fdsdsff ) he lets her have the business. i wont go too much about the divorce

main thing is mako can help figure out there has to be something more going on. and i like the idea of mako maybe thinking it's best to keep it secret from payton and other people what they do. i bet that haruna snapped when she heard ty was dead. so mako will know it's not good idea haruna knows fddfsf so mako has a lil growth going from being upset about all of cyrus lies, to seeing how the lies are also neccessary. especially to keep others safe. he just wants cyrus to open up. and maybe they try to talk to lu, or try to capture him and fail. but at least they are working togethere again and rebuilding trust.

or like i mention in the tab. lu takes cyrus and mako toe harunas business. old canon he shows why cyrus can't tell the others the truth. because of all of harunas allies. its bit anticlimatic?? but have to mention it as option. in old caon i think lu goes on hunting spree after he showed cyrus haruna is a villain and how big her busieness is.

idk if that is still canon. i get feeling lu might have been hunting while he waited to hear from cyrus fdsdf he wants it to be safe to return home. better to take out the enemy before they find out lu is havoc. its possible they dont even know its havoc. since he is getting ridd of villain witnesses. dead men tell no tale fdsdsfd

Ty: tries to get lu and cyrus to stop being heroes reality Ty: accidently creates a monster instead

sorry the text is so rough, i didn't want to risk forgetting to share the tab.

It's canon he is captured and put in suicide squad. and most likely by rakel and dami. the question is just what mako and cyrus does when they work together. I'm very certain mako will help cyrus with building the courage to talk to tyrek. mako knows cyrus is a hero. and he knows ty. mako will be demanding answers (if mako knows they can talk privatalye because someone is helping them in suicide squad. like william. and i bet victor helps too but they dont mention victor to them until after suicide squad.

i also realized another thing they might suspect it's damien (but also leave it open for it being cyrus. but cy isn't strong enough to kill ty on his own. he needs that gun and a opening to use it. IF charlotte had visions of blue energy. i think it can benefit the story they might think it's damien. since then they will not approach damien out of fear he will destroy them too fdsdf but i laugh imagine damien approaching safe haven ocs like nate or charlotte, maybe he touches their shoulder (they didn't see him) and they jump at sight of it. he will feel that intense fear coming from them fdfdssfd it might be best they don't see damien until dami and rakel threaten haruna to back off their family and they will get lu.

OR, if william has recording of cyrus talking about what happened. it's possible that cyrus doesn't say what happened either AT the crime scene. cyrus will say what happened at the river. and then they go to the crime scene. so william wont know what happaned. he just knows cyrus plays a role in it. i bet that mako won't make cyrus repeat things since he sees how traumatic it is for cyrus. and he doesn't neeed to hear things twice. at most cyrus might repeat "I.... i tried to reach him..." or something to hind he tried to run back to ty.(so he could get ty away from the falling debris + get chance to get the mask off" so william doenst know who killed tyrek. if it was lu or/and damien.

so it's possible william might anonymously give the video. or take a massive gamble and talk to damien. maybe threatens to leak the video if damien tries to kill him (its blackmail out of fear. he doesnt want to do it) i lean on william might suspect it's lu. he knows lu is allive. and at tyreks funeral. they will see damien upset. so if damien was guilty. he might think they can try to work something out. thinking that it was a accident IF damien is guilty.

i lean on william probably doesn't blackmail IF he has a video of mako and cyrus going to the crime scene. he is close to damien brain: so was tyrek...and he is dead fdsdf me: good point... maybe william waits a bit?? 1. so he can analyse everything? see how damien is towards everyone else? if they think it's damien. and he senses the fear. they could make exsuse about fearing the person who tok ty. i think damien will sense they are hiding something. maybe he thinks its the nightstalker organization?? ty warned him about the organizaiton. and now he is dead.

so it benefits lu that safe haven ocs wait before talking to damien. they might fear that if they talk to damien, that damien will kill them since they revealed they suspect he is behind everything.

UNLESS william approach mako. and get mako to confess. but i think he needs to show the video (if mako lies about he hasnt been ther)but i dont know if mako would tell william either?? he doesnt know who to trust. and when he hears about someone using nightstalker poison to try to take down schmidt. he will probably suspect it's haruna. william is fakinig alliance to haruna.

i also can't unsee william bringing arin with him (especially if he is married to arin) so arin is nearby in the house. since he knows damien won't attack when arin is in there dffds --------------------------------- does cyrus and mako go back looking for the gun?? or is it safe ? maybe cyrus is in the system because of hero stuff then again. cyrus as coyote is supposed to be anonymous .

i can imagine the boys panicking about the gun. 1 either its still in the debris (which might make them want to run over. but its probably more risky to got there even disguised since they dont know if they can be ambushed going back to crime scene. it will be good thing if its buried. meaning. it gives them time to plan 2 haruna has it. but i bet mako can spy and find out the gun isnt there . or he never heard them talk about a gun when they talked about tyreks death. i think they will talk about mask being burned and the wounds (might not be easy to tell if its gun or not. i bet there might be big holes the gun is supposed to be combination of magic and tech. built for deities. IF they think its gun shot. they will talk about not seeing any gun there. 3. the gun is in the posession to the person who tok tyreks body,. (victor, which is true)

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I lean on mako and cyrus work together to capture lu. and most likely rakel and damien too (since i think they made some sort of deal with haruna. she leaves schmidt alone and they will hand over lu (schmidt is upset that lu killed ty. i think i lean on william sees mako and cyrus at the crime scene. tell dami and rakel.

its also possible the guys failed to catch lu. and then finds out rakel and dami are afte after lucian as well. so they work together

i like the idea of the kids capturing lu. but i can't downplay his skills + it seems neccesary dami and rakel capture lu because of haruna

so i lean on all 4 work together. since cyrus is the perfect "bait" to lure lucian out.

i'n mako's tab it will explain every idea i have so far. i will also make a tempory art tab for it too. so i'm reminded of lu's capture and i can put it in the new revamp timeline.

short summary of cy as "Bait"cyrus is ignoring lucian. which gives them a opportunity to get lu. i bet cyrus has a number he can call lu on? lu most likely slipped a note about it under cyrus door or put a not in cyrus postcard (it would be anonymous so only cyrus knows what the message means and who wrote it, cant risk anyone snooping in cyrus stuff. and lu will be extremely eager to make up for what he did and talk to cyrus. --------------------------------------------

https://toyhou.se/12790474.mako-kowalczyk/26366587.william-supervise-crime-scene It's safe for william to find out. He will help them. It's more about finding out if its best plot wise it takes time. or if william and the others suspect damien is responsible so they don't apprach damien out of fear they will end up like tyrek. This is version where william doesn't see Mako and cyrus at the crime scene. I think he has sensors, so they most likely need to be far away. For example cyrus standing on a hill or flying up in sky (probably hill so they are still hidden by the forest. so they don't risk cameras picking up someone flying nearby) I will do version were mako and cyrus walk up to the crime scene. because i like how personal it is for mako to get close and study the scene. IF they get close they will use illusion device or mako cast a spell for them to be different (that would fool the sensors compared to if he cast a invisibility spell. the heat sensors would pick up their shapes dfsfsd

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This is the "reckless" version of cy and mako. I can't imagine them running in like this. However. they have most likely been drinking + both are emotional mess. so it's possible they forgot about possibility about cameras since mako was told cyrus to show him where it all happened. or that cyrus points were it happens. and makos emotions get the best of him and he runs in. and cyrus runs after mako to stop him because of the chance of there being cameras.

i will go more in detail about it in cyrus thread and in lucians thread. since it's in the problemsolving phase.

https://paintberri.com/posts/Lucian-Thread-by-SoulSerenade-wETd1oo8W?source=thumbnail

----------------- i also can't unsee the crack of lu being behind william. I don't think lu will be able to get through williams own home. I bet that William has his tech somewhere safe to avoid someone like haruna getting their hands on recordings like this

HOWEVER. if lu was behind william. and saw william make a back up or take the file with him to hide somwehere or/and to tell rakel and damien. its possible that lu might think william will hand it to haruna.

I dont think it's canon. it benefits nigthstalker arc that william keeps his body dsfds past me: i can't imagine lu killing william??? i would need something extreme to push lu into this were he thinks his family is in danger me: working on this me: ah...i think i found motive...

if it wasn't for nightstalker arc. i would just said "i think i found out why lu lashed out at william in revamp" but william. SO FAR. it seems lu will leave you alone. . Especially if william is married to arin. i also can't imagine lu being able to sneak in... he would need arin (or their kid, if they have kid/s)and then wait for arin to walk in the room william is in. which will be hard to pull off. especially if the room is locked. OR if there is also extra cameras in the factory. but i lean on those recordings go to william anyway. and he could just hack into those it from where he is.. so he doesnt need to leave his home. but william has kids....that makes it easier for lu to sneak. which is horrifying to think about fdss

------------------------ mako and cyrus trying to capture lu. maybe cyrus puts on a mic (so mako can hear everything) and cyrus lets lu talk. so they can hear whatever lu wants to say. and then they make a plan about how to respond to lu. its also possible that they already set up a plan. and mako can communicate to cyrus through a mic.

and mako might say "do plan a" and cyrus follows instructions. mako knows cyrus is on the same page as mako

------------------------------------- IF my ocs think damien killed tyrek. it benefits the nightstalker arc. it's not neccesary. since haruna will see enough in suicide squad. however. if they or haruna think damien is responsible (they wouldn't tell haruna if they think it's damien.) if haruna suspects it's damien (idk what would make her suspect it's damien, maybe she thinks cyrus has convinced damien to solve the case) if haruna ordered them to handle damien. and she saw how terrified they are. that would hint to haruna how strong icarus is.

i think the explanation they would give is whoever tok down ty. what chance do they have to take this person down? it's suicide if they provoke them. -------------------------------- There are notes about cyrus and earth manipulators in this tab that I need to check what to add in the revamp (Mako's backstory wasn't made back then when I made this tab: https://toyhou.se/3667853.cyrus-septimus-schmidt-coyote/25402627.damienlurichiepretendcoyote

------------------------------------ what i think will be canon: - cyrus shows mako the crime scene. - cyrus will talk to lu. so we get the image of lu and cyrus in harunas business. he probably wears mic so mako hears everything. so they hear lu's side of the story. if mako is there, they might not get the full truth since mako is there since he is tyreks family. Lu trusts cyrus. and they might not be certain mako might be able to stay calm if he met lu. so it's better cyrus talks to lu. - cyrus and mako will try to ambush lu and fail there will be mixed things happening after, like rakel and damien threatening haruna and that they will handle lu. i havent decided everything. i need to find out if william sees cy and mako - rakel and dami capture lu (because of nightstalker arc and the deal about haruna leaving schmidt alone) one thing that is possible is that i can see haruna be opportunistic. even though i'm certain damien will say something to make it clear to haruna not to underestimate schmidt with lu being in prison. i bet haruna will still want them gone since she is in vulnerable position. and also because of loyalty to the nightstalker organization. she knows the organization wants icarus. so she might see it as opportunity for the organization to do whatever they might have planned at the time (but she won't act on it if she is tempted since my ocs will talk her out of it or threaten her with something. If they threatenm she will feel more vulnerable) so if haruna talks to business and my ocs finds out. probably through william?`he sees on the cameras what haruna does. or haruna request safe haven oc that they handle schmidt. i can see them make it clear to haruna it will be a big mistake to provoke the schmidt. they can't reveal anything about icarus that they know icarus doesnt want haruna to know. i don't think they aren't allowed to say something to confirm whatever threate rakel and damien are making. that she should listen to warning rakel and damien gave. I dont know if this is canon. or if its smart or not. i think maybe it can be canon. charlotte could maybe say something like if haruna provokes icarus. there is nothing charlotte can do to protect haruan from icarus. and charlotte doesn't explain why. she doesnt reveal anything about icarus powers (like the omni energy and icarus being immune. she doesnt know if dami has omni energy yet or not). only stating/confirming he is powerful.

i think i lean more on that they threaten haruna. if she does anything to schmidt. she will be hunted down by the whole group. there's been enough destruction. and now damien and rakel are offering peace. dont waste it. it will only cause more destruction for haruna no matter what path she choose - if she breaks the deal and if she is able to kill schmidt. she will get safe haven ocs after her (and most likely icarus but they dont tell her that) - if she fails in killing in them. she has safe haven and schmidt. who will destroy everything that matter to haruna. Or even risk they will kill her. yes. she is the mother to raiden and ikimi. But charlotte could erase their memories of haruna. charlotte would feel awful about it. then again... telling the truth. they wont be attached to her, if they hear all the murder she has done and planned to continue to do. it's better they lose one mother. than for haruna to kill a whole family. haruna is a villain. the schmidt are heroes. so to society they would do a favor to get haruna out of the way. or send her to prison. but she would probably get help from the organizaiton to break out. or from her familu. so killing her would be a certain "end" to things. so i think this is way for haruna to feel vulnerable too. that she knows. one wrong step. she risks loosing more. so she leaves schmidt alone. she doesnt have enough allies to betray safe haven ocs. better to accept the deal to leave schmdit alone. and she won't loose more people why sending people after lu. it's rakel and damien who will capture him.

---------- extra note about what will help the nightstalker arc (its not neccesary since haruna sees a lot in suicide squad) There is one area tyrek succeeded well. which is manipulating damiens insecurities about not seeing himself as a hero and not being good enough.

my ocs can warn haruna to not provoke the schmidt further because she risks ruining the manipulation tyrek has done to damien to keep damien away from haruna and the nightstalker organization. Up til suicide squad timeline. Damien doesnt believe he is good enough to be a hero By not provoking schmidt further. Haruna is protecting the nigthstalker organization and herself. If she provokes them. she risks damien wrecking everything and figuring out he is strong enough to handle a behemoth like the nightstalker organization. don't ruin all the work tyrek did to protect her, the business and the organization (tyrek did it to protect the schmidt fdsfds he doesnt care about the organization. he keeps damien away so the organization doesn't start hurting schmidt or people they love.

damien holding back is most likely also be his fear of hurting people that also holds him back a lot too. he doesnt want to hurt anyone. monsters are easy peasy (as long they weren't human before since then he will try to reverse it or mercy kill. but wont like hurting monster. damien is analysing his powers. so he knows he has a lot power. he is most likely aware its the mental part that holds him back most and maybe also the fear of loosing control over something like the spirits he can make etc. since icarus doesnt tell him anything fdsdfs

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i don't think it's canon lu is in the house, IF he was. i think at most he would just get william to delete the video (but i bet william might have methods were it seems like he deletes it?? or he is able to send the video to back up somewhere, so it's not lost even if lu wrecked his computers. so, i don't think deleting video is canon either. I have to correct myself with lu were i wrote how hard it will be to get inside... it MIGHT be easy for lu to get in williams apartment. IF william is married to arin and if lu is disguised as arin or their kids (if they have kids. i got feeling they might have at least 1 kid. maybe someone who works with alot of tech. maybe another team mate of cyrus? someone who works with hacking and creating tech?? it benefits nightstalker arc that william keeps his body and are busy with his life. of course i bet he could be plenty busy with arin alone. but i have one design that was originally abby daughter (old canon) where i keep thinking it could be william and arin's daughter. and then i have one more slot in cyrus team. Lu knows william family so he could make the illusions believable for william. (although it's very convenient that he is disguised the same time william sees video is mako and cyrus i have possible concept ideas about what might make sense. for example in old canon he is keeping and eye on cyrus to protect him. so he most likely witnessed mako and cyrus fight (and almost spoiled his cover especially if mako holds cyrus under water etc (if it's canon that cyrus and mako walk up close to the location. it's possible that if they walk up close, they cast a shapeshifting spell. they could appear as one of safe haven ocs to make it seem like the person who killed ty, came back. but i'm meh about that shapeshifting spell concept. or that mako shapeshift and get close? Or they walk in dressed up where its hard to see who they are, like robbers dress up.

back to the topic about william. IF william is married to arin. all lu need to do is create scenario were arin is somewhere else. Maybe asking some of his friends to distract her or make it seem like arin was invited somewhere. or do something to stall her. like ruining tires or tinkering with her car. if he stalls it has to be something arin wont call william for help. so it's easiest he gets one of his friends to stall arin. and if arin and william has kids they are also somewhere else (since if anyone is in the house, all william has to do is shout for help and hope someone hears him. Lu won't hurt william in front of his family.

so it's better lu get's arins key (maybe makes a duplicate key so arin doesnt' react to her key being missing)

william knows lu is out there. and i got feeling he has to be cautious in how he asks arin stuff if he ever wonders if arin or the kid is illusion. i dont think arin is aware william occasionally help tyreks business (she won't be happy about william helping villains but considering she knows ty. and i bet william will talk about ty was working on legit business + doing good with the money. it helps smooth things wiht arin. and ty isn't a villain after suicide squad. william was also doing more good than bad by being undercover cop. he was just occasionally cleaning up after harunas business.

i got feeling william can't ask "are you lu" since then he reveals lu is allive to arin. i bet at most he can say that since he works undercover there are risks of villain either shapeshifting or doing illusions to appear as his family Since lu knows arin, william and their family well. lu has a high chance to succeed creating illusions to trick william. william isn't dumb and he will be on guard, especially with ty gone. One thing william could do is ask stuff like "can you make what we had for dinner yesterday?" and hope that lu wasn't there yesterday, lu will have no idea what meal they had (unless there are scraps thrown in the trash, to help him guess what it might have been) . if lu cooks he will need to do illusions to have chance of succeding.

Note about lucian and his illusion powers: i don't know if when he creates illusions, if he is able to create illusions were it fits the persons memories, or if he has to taste the food himself to create a belivable illusion. for instance. if someone says "can you make coffee" the coffe might taste more bitter, sweet etc than what the real thing does?? unless lu's powers (he is strong with his powers, and they MIGHT be getting near reality warping powers? or maybe they aren't near? and thats why victor is pushing ty and lu in suicide squad (he is also pushing them because he is undercover too. it's something the boss would do. he can't differentiate treatment out of risk of spoiling he is uncercover) i think i lean on lu's powers might be able to create illusions were it fits a persons memories. and when it comes to food or drinks. lu can create believable "dinner" since he has visited arin and william all the time. he would just need to answer correctly on williams subtle questions (IF william suspects anything) it's also possible william might be distracted with solving tyreks murder. he might not suspect lu or at least suspect lu wasn't alone. so everything lu needs to do is pretend it's a normal day. and sneak in the room as time as william walks in -------------------------------------- me: dont think this is canon also me: proceeds to analyse it anyway just in case if it might fit as canon that lu walks inside williams house it's also about correcting myself since if i say something. and i realize it's flaws i need to explain/correct it. and lu is spying on every safe haven ocs. So it's possible canon that Lu snuck in williams house. The question is...does william find out? (maybe lu does this to intimidate william into silence? that lu walked around in his house and had the chance to kill him?? but he can't do anything that risk arin finding out. Unless he knows william won't say anything to arin. he has kept it secret so far that lu is allive (to protect the schmidt from haruna. No one wants haruna to find out lu is allive since it puts the schmidt in danger) unless this intimidation is what might make william go to rakel and dami ( i like the idea dami and rakel find out by themselves that haruna tried to poison them. there are a lot of clues. Like, victor's hatred towards haruna. especially if damien stopped victor from trying to kill haruna (Unless icarus tok possession over damiens body, and damien has no memories of what happend)

"convenient that lu is there when william sees the video"

i'm very certain in old canon that lu is keeping eye on cyrus. He saved cyrus from monster here :

https://paintberri.com/posts/TT-Event-1-Cross-paths-by-SoulSerenade-BkIZDVJc?source=thumbnail and if i remember right. i think lu is keeping an eye on cyrus after crossfire fight too. he wants to make sure cyrus is safe If he hears about there being a party ( i bet he knows there is a party since he is spying on safe haven/mako's family) maybe there is a birthday party (which can explain why the party wasnt cancelled. i can also imagine the party was planned ahead for awhile and is a way for the kids to cope with loss. that they have a moment were they try to forget everything and support one another by trying to have fun. ty would want them to be happy again. there is a culture (in asia?) were there is party or they do something fun in honor to the person who passed away. so it could be their way of honoring ty? (i also can't unsee it being dark if mako suspected cyrus and put the picture out to test him, but i think i prefer mako being shocked when he sees cyrus response to tyreks picture. that is the final act cyrus does were mako connects all the dots (or almost all the dots. i think mako attacks since he thinks cyrus stole the body and maybe doesn't believe cyrus when cyrus says he didn't take the body. maybe mako doesn't believe cyrus at first because he has been drinking and is emotional about everything that has happened) so if lu sees mako and cyrus fight. I can imagine lu would struggle a lot to stand back and not stop the fight. Especially if Mako holds cyrus underwater (ty couldn't breathe with the mask on his face) Lu will know there is cameras and would run ahead to the location. mako and cy will be slower than lu since i can see cyrus walking to the place where he was attacked by tyrek, were tyrek sent cyrus flying off his back. i think the road is repaired (by another earth manipulator?? or some workers) i bet there will be evidence of the fight off the road. cracks on the ground etc i think ty left evidence of that on purpose as intimidation towards lu. make lu terrified for cyrus life. hoping that scare would make lu quit as hero. i think lu would just use his illusions to mess with the tech.which is possible canon. and then going to williams place to make sure it worked?? it seems smarter to mess with the cameras or destroy it (will be hard to find all of them, he just knows there are cameras there since he knows william well. and he is a cop. so he knows all the tricks there possibly is. smarter to destroy the cameras than to go to william first, and risk william making back ups. or that lu creates illusions in the area, messing with cameras and then go to william. it's a storm. so i think arin will be home. or maybe the storm is what makes arin slow coming home? or maybe arin has habbit of working shifts during x times that lu takes advantage of

another correction. is that lu could create a illusion. make it seem like a delivery boy went to the wrong door. or make it seem like kids doing pranks on knocking on doors and running. all lu needs is someone to open the door, and lu sneaks in. then you have the "william can shout" william would hope that lu will hesitate and won't shoot him before he gets to scream.

i lean on if lu creates illusions..it's something horrifying/scary if everything seems normal. and everything was just an illusion. i dont think i've showed lu do this before. and lu hasn't had much spotlight before. and it can showcase how hard he might be to find. William can hack and triack people through hacking. But lu... he will be a menace (especially if he has something to protect him from charlottes tracking magic) lu can be anyone he wants through illusions and easily disappear. and it's easy for him to get caash in his hands. so he doesnt need to use his cards. he can disappear digitally.

one thing that rakel and dami can do. of course they could ask charlotte for tracking spell but that is anti climatic fdsfdf plus its possible that they don't tell charlotte since they dont know who to trust. and maybe charlotte has left harunas business since she feared damien was the tyreks killer. it's canon that peopple who worked for harunas either were killed by lu and a lot left the business because they were scared. this also helps haruna picking up that damien is powerful. that charlotte left (it's not neccesary)

and leaving schmidt alone is respecting tyreks wish. killing them. everything ty did would be a in vain. --------------------------------------------------------------- NOTE ABOUT DAMIEN SENSING LU AND SENSING VICTOR it can be interesting to see damien and rakel walking together to places they think lu might hide.Going to place that meant something to lu (which is less likely for lu to be, and they know this. but they might check anyway, in case of reverse psychology of "they will think i will avoid a place i love, so i will hide in a place i love) and check any places that they don't think have connection and meaning to lu. and areas that are smart to hide in general. it takes energy for lu to use his powers. so all rakel and dami need. is to be lucky in being in a area lu is near. and if he is disguised.damien will sense him even better since he is using his powers. or find a place lu has been recently, then there is a "energy footprints" to follow.

rakel and damien has illusion devices so they can walk around and lu won't know they are there. damiens using his sensing is invicible (unless he does it extremely intenseley in long range)

----------------- SENSING VICTOR another thing i keep thinking about with haruna and damien. Alliance with damien benefits Haruna since damien can help figure out who tok tyrek. I've often thought about, the closer damien gets to omni energy. it means victors magic in hiding away from the deities won't affect damien. so i often imagined damien reacting to victor who is disguised as suicide squad boss. i think victor will try to stay away from damien but i also think vic has often been near everyone. keeping an eye on them making sure they are okay and safe. and maybe damien hasn't done anything to were victor could see damien sensing him.

and i bet damien will be able to sense the boss is using magic (or maybe he is using a illusion device? so it leaves less energy around him for someone like damien to pick up on? Damien is extremely sensitive. Cyrus doesnt have the energy sensing yet (which i often wonder about why sfsd i think he focused on combat and sensitivity doesnt come as natural to him compared to damien who had it since he was toddler?? he is very alert. while cyrus feels secure. which might be why cy need to practice hard to get it. cy will practice in haven redux since he sees how useful it is in sensing enemies and intentions.

HOWEVER. Victor is spending energy staying hidden to the other deities?? Unless casting the spell doesnt require him to spend energy? it was a one time thing?? For example casting a spell on a item that keeps him hidden? However. No matter if it requires energy or not. Damien will pick it up something is off.

If vic is using energy to continue to stay hidden by other deities (it's also possible that selcouth is doing something to minimize his "energy presence" since osiris did that too once. during this incident wheen ty and osiris makde a surprise breakfast to victor: https://toyhou.se/3668194.tyrek-kowalczyk/25969710.hopes-and-dreams

i think victor would need to cast magic to stay hidden to be on the safe side in case if charlotte tried using a tracking spell?? in case if anyone doubted he really was gone or wanted to check to be sure. and if nate mentions the person who tok ty resembles vic. charlotte could try to cast tracking spell again (maybe she finds him??? i lean on dami sensing things) maybe vic still cast spell to stay hidden from someone like charlotte. But it leaves him open for damien to sense things. He probably prays that Damien might only sense he is disguised but not able to recognize victors energy underneath the "disguise layer" . I can't unsee it as onion layers of energy.

back to the point: if he uses magic to stay hidden = damien will sense that magic is being used, and it will most likely be mixed with victors energy. damien will sense a familiarity. and i think he wil be extremely confused, about what he sensed. but i bet it will start to make sense for him as he analyse things.

and I bet that if victor left belle reve to stay away from damien. Damiien might sense energy footprints. Victor would need to time things. ANd i bet that Damien and rakel would maybe visit at times victor wasn't prepared. so he left too late, risking damien sensing him. damien might think it's victors spirit? one part of me wonderd if "maybe he doesnt understand the energy? but i think selcouth energy is very identifiable compared to normal person. the intensity and has a specific signature to it. and he is using energy to keep the disguise. i lean on 1 lu is captured and put in belle reve. 2. i think in general. victor is well informed about when people visit 3. damien might sense victors presence. i dont think damien can sense tyrek?? since ty is dead? then again...i've always wondered about osiris where he is... is he in a slumber in tyrek? victor sealed osiris in? or is osiris sealed off somewhere else? in victor? i have art osiris is shocked to see victor. so he might have been in slumber. if he is in tyrek (victor found tyreks body fast so he could have cast the spell to seal osiris in, hoping that would help in resurrection attempts he make before the other safe haven ocs show up? or he might not have had chance to cast ressurection since i want it to be canon that the others sees the mask burned to tyreks face. if victor starts ressurecting ty. then his wounds are healed. and then i loose the mako and cyrus stuff. so i lean on vic finds the body or close to finding it. the others show up. he disguise himself as haruna and lifts tyrek up. charlotte tries to ressurect tyrek. victor takes the body (maybe does some magic to seal osiris ) and then puts tyrek in a tank. maybe he has his own private lab he puts tyrek in first. so he can work privately. and when it doesnt work. he feels he has no choice than to put tyrek in belle reve/suicide squad and hope they find a way to bring tyrek back. he doesn't think damien can help? or can't risk loosing his cover.

IF osiris is sealed in tyrek. then damien will sense osiris it's also possible that william found out where tyrek is by hacking every big organization he could think of. however. it might be possible that damien senses things and ask william to hack to confirm that there is something odd going on. they will not tell haruna about victor. it's after the suicide squad she will hear about him, or at least know that right after the fight that ty knew the boss but not know anything about their backstory.

Damien will pretend he doesnt sense anything unusual. Talk about being excited to meet lucian. I got feeling rakel might know him well enough that he had a "spidey senses" moment fsdsfdfsd I can see her be eager to hear about it

i also crack up imaging victor being like "conceal don't feel" he has to be extremely careful to not become nervous around damien since daimen will sense it. I laugh imagine victor at home being like "selcouth....i believe our cover has been blown...." paranoid damien catched on. I think he will check surveillance cameras to analyse damiens beharior. i think he is smart enough to see damien picked up on something since he turned around at victor (then again. Damien is alert, and if there are many people there. who knows if it was because of vic or someone else giving off weird vibes. i think victor knows dami felt something. just doesnt know what.

i also keep imagining this crack beastars meme Juno Chasing Haru https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLLvRjkzU2w&ab_channel=mothrelics

dami chasing disguised vic (outside of belle reve)

i dont know if damien will reach out? or at least let someone reach out first. he doesnt want to risk spooking victor and risk loosing him again.

------------------------- paintberri text and leaving schmidt alone is respecting tyreks wish. killing them. everything ty did would be a in vain.

Here is some important notes about damien can try to track lu through energy sensing. with lu captured. there is high chance dami can sense victor (maybe osiris too. for years i've wondered where osiris is. if he was in slumber in ty??

with lu captured. scmidt will visits belle reve.

https://toyhou.se/6629575.damien-schmidt/26383063.damien-sensing-victor-osiris

One thing i will miss in the old canon is cyrus shock seeing tyrek allive (it can still be canon, that he knows tyreks body is there, so the shock can be from seeing tyrek brought back + tyrek is beating up lu (if mako is there, mako will stop it. or even victor, since he doesn't want mako to see those things. and maybe also because he cares for cyrus (altough he secretly wants tyrek to throw a few punches, which tyrek does since ty is too far away for them to see who is running full speed towards lu.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- why rakel and damien are upset with lu when tyrek beak up cyrus - lu caused a lot of pain to the family by hiding/faking his death. - damien would figure out something was wrong. had lu come clean about tyrek. then damien would have made a plan to handle tyrek in a way no one was killed. hoping they could come to a agreement with ty. - damien will be upset about all the pain cyrus went through and being put in situation were he tok someones life (its possible ty would have died from the gun anyway but lu robbed chance of surviving it) - lu killed ty and in the brutal manner he did it. -Cyrus and rakel was self destructive. - cy was suicidal and often put himself in danger. he provoked and gained more villain enemies - rakel almost killed a villain (damien would most likely helped hide evidence or tried to find a way for rakel to avoid prison. or maybe damien would be dark and stage things. they got the gun that dissolves organic matter fddfd since its bad enough to loose lu. he doesnt want rakel in prison. so damien would most likely do everything to prevent rakel going to prison, especially for a villain. rakel also benefits society by being outside and handling villains than to go in prison and give villains more power since there is one less hero out in the streets cleaning up.) -seeing the pain everything has caused to family and friends -damien wanted proper justice. not execution. and if damien heard ty was beating them up. he would also figured out like mako, that ty wasn't intending to kill them, but scare them. since if he wanted them dead. they would be. and ty knew lu was allive and kept it secret from haruna. ---------------------- charlotte having "visions" and why its important to stay I often thought "i could take the visions away" but realized. charlottes vision is the reason they managed to find tyrek, forcing victor to create illusion of haruna. but i think it tok some time before charlotte got the vision? so vic gets chance to dig ty up? then again vic is powerful so it most likely doesnt take long time for vic to dig tyrek up. its easy for him to lift things up. -------------------------------

Cyrus showing Mako location of crime scene https://toyhou.se/12790474.mako-kowalczyk/26366068.cyshowmakolocationofcrimescene#79404621

I haven't decided if the road has been repaired. or if it's still there? There isnt a body there so they might have repaired it? Thinking a earth manipulator messed with the road.

In old canon Neiva knows cyrus was taken hostage??

I like the visual image of the road not being repaired. Maybe Cy drove to a closed off area because he got a lead (not knowing it was from ty) and he managed to get there with his bike? It's also possible it's being investigated no matter if neiva knows in the revamp or not. it feels more emotional to see the destruction that was caused before cyrus was captured. since tyrek stalled there too before taking him. when i know what is canon. I will add storm in the background. It's stormy when cyrus show mako around.

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I think when cyrus and mako fight. that is the first time cyrus finds out mako has powers. I dont know if he uses the same power as he has when he is disguised at cyrus team mate or he uses magic.

Team mate: earth powers? (so we have the story of cyrus almost leaving the team because of earth manipulator ptsd)

i think mako use earth powers againt fight with cyrus? and in addition uses magic powers??? so he reveals he is cyrus team mate + that he is a witch. it's possible he has earth powers like payton does. she has 3. invulerability, shapeshifting and earth powers. so its possible mako has magic/shapeshift/earth powers. he has magic instead of invulnerability. he needs to cast magic spell to be "invulnerable" or use earth powers to be protected??

OR he is magic user, who use earth based attacks. ( he changes form. the question is just how much. if its humanoid or can he fully shapeshift??) and when he fights cyrus. he reveals he can do more than earth magic since i want mako to heal cyrus wounds (probably gets his clothes back to normal?? or maybe givesh is own clothes to cyrus to cover up cyrus scars? or cast a illusion spell on cyrus to cover the scars when they are home and he gives cyrus his clohtes talking about clothes. i laugh imagining mako opening his closet and it's filled with manticore stuff fdssdf

Another option mako has as cyrus team mate. Is that he maybe appears as a gock golem?? That would help cover his disguise. If it wasn't for i want cy to have a earth based team mate for ptsd story. I could have said "maybe mako pretends he doesnt have powers? like robin/nightwing? or that his power is luck.

I lean on as team mate he uses earth based powers? that way he also connects the dots about cyrus trauma with earth manipulators (of course, i could just give a npc those powers but mako is tyreks son. and it's traumatic if he fights the same as ty too. Especially at the fight at the river. Because Mako has been drinking and desperate for answers. I can see him use earth powers to try to get the truth out of cyrus

I think I lean on Cyrus tells the truth? and maye it's when cy says he hasnt taken the body, thats when they fight? Since mako doesn't beleive him at first? (because alcohol and emotions) I also think cyrus might take all the blame or hold back on saying lu. Maybe mako accuses damien of being the accomplice and that makes cyrus confess it was lu. (i think he would just confess it was lu anyway. I think cyrus is defeated)

and i like that cyrus gets a chance to support mako mentally this time. (i will add bruises and storm in all the art. i wanted to post a somewhat clean version

------------- I realized. I think it's interesting how roles switched. I'm very certain that Nate and Abby are very honest parents (As long it's not connected to Safe haven)

Cyrus is very secretive person when it comes to hero stuff. I think he is hoenst person about things that doesn't tie him to coyote.

And now- Mako hears the whole truth from one of my most secretive people. While His family have created a bunch of lies (to protect mako and payton)

Mako's family want to tell the truth. But like Cyrus. They also don't want to ruin the kids image of ty since he is gone.

Mako seeing everything, the scars on cyrus, the locations like where he was kidnapped like this scene. anb then the factory. will help build trust. Especially when Mako and cyrus will work together about how to handle lu. They won't capture him (that will be rakel and dami) at least they are working together +repairing their relationship

-------------------------------- possible reasons cyrus doesn't know tyrek is allive. maybe not even mako??

maybe the adults doesn't want to tell the kids that tyrek is being experimented on? or give false hope that tyrek might be ressurected??

when the adults find out it's victor who tok the body and is disguised as belle reve boss.

I crack up imagining Mako going "murder mode" on disguised victor IF mako doesn't know there is someone on the inside on their side. I think I lean on they probably tell mako there is someone on their side but they can't say who. that is working on trying to get tyrek back. And Haruna then meets lester. and with lesters help they are able to bring tyrek back

i wonder what excuse victor use as the belle reve boss to inform haruna that they have tyrek?

Maybe stage it so it seems like someone was able to hack into belle reve (william) and haruna stomps up there demanding to get information about tyrek. --------------------------------------------------------------

i want to keep the story about cyrus being shocked to see tyrek allive as still canon.

I think I lean on the adults doens't tell the kids that tyrek is in belle reve. and when ty is ressurected they still wait with telling the kids? they want to make sure ty is allive permanently and not just briefly. they dont want the kids to loose tyrek again.

They can't risk giving the kids false hope. and they don't want victor cover being blown by telling that ty has someone on the inside helping them.

haruna agrees to keep it secret from the kids that belle reve has tyrek? they don't want to risk traumatizing them ty is kept in a tank and experimented on?? and it's suicide squad, vic will send ty and lu on dangerous missions (to keep his cover and maybe also trigger lu's reality warping powers. the biggest reason is that he has to in order to keep the boss identity. maybe cy and mako show up unannounced with neiva (i think they need neiva to get permission to enter the room)

victor was probably planning to purposely let ty get some punches in. so neiva, cy and mako showing up interferes with it. i can imagine him internally going "ah shit...." at it being possible for cyrus and mako to witness things. maybe he tries to get them to leave? or hopes that tyrek waits before he goes all bulldozer at lu.

now i imagine cyrus freezing in horror while mako is excited/happy seeing tyrek allive and cheering ty on, until he realize "wait...lu is cyrus uncle... cyrus is traumatized over there" and yells ty to stop,

i can see victor be proud dad of mako. maybe he slips and does a small "hm" or almost laughs but has to disguise it as coughing. I bet that since Mako might be shouting so loudly. People won't notice that small slip from vic, especially if he covers it up as a cough

i crack up at tyreks confusion of mako cheering on to suddently shouting stop dfsfdssf

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Big Chungus (song) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YDoowoYzOI&ab_channel=CG5

Years ago Friend: Shares chungus song as referance to Tyrek Me: *soul will remember that*

Everytime I draw tyrek. That song gets stuck in my head

I can't unsee mako calling tyrek for "uncle chungus" until he finds out tyrek is his dad. then it's "dad chungus" or "chungus" dfsfds maybe "Far/Pappa Chungus" norwegian for father/dad.

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I can't wait to share mako being a trashgoblin and cheering on tyrek. I keep imagining mako grabbing victor and being excited asking if can meet tyrek and talk to him. I can imagine victor struggling so hard to keep his facade to not get emotional/happy in front of mako. I wonder if victor will say yes to mako. Use the exscuse of them witnessing that "accident" as victor trying to make up for it. i bet the boss might do stuff like that? or at least people don't blink about the boss saying yes to make up for things. especially in front of other cops like neiva. i think the boss has a good reputation to the public. it's the people who work on the inside who know about all the dark things going on (that victor will leak out to the public. he has a art tab about it.

https://toyhou.se/6629575.damien-schmidt/26172871.suicide-squad-aftermath

after the visit i can see vic and ty bond over their love for mako dsfsdf I can see vic ramble about about him and ty smile like " i know " confirming whatever vic is saying and envouraging/ and wanting to hear more of victor rambling

considering victor has lived a secret life. I'm certain even thought he met people because of boss identity and recruiting followers. he most likely still felt isolated? Maybe disconnected?? so i can imagine it must be liberating to reveal his identity to the people he loves. And i can imagine since he kept an eye on everyone he cared about. he must be bursting with things he wants to talk about. Being proud friend and parent.

the art i will show you soon me: aaaahhhh victor is smiling and being happy! brain: and this is before he looses his memories me: AAAAHHHHHHHHHHH! my son! even with all the pain he is still being his old self is still there!

-------------------------------------- I wonder if Mako will cheer tyrek on as if it is a kickboxing match. Talking as if he is a sports commentator ------------------------- Mako as commentator

I lean on if mako is commentator. All of it is comedic (except for cyrus but ill try to make it as comedic as i can

One idea i dont think is canon is "what if mako made comments about it being a fair fight, since their powers are disabled" but i dont want mako to accidently fuel victor like that. it's enough that victors love for family and friends fuel him. (it's not quite a fair fight. because they would be in different weight class. even if they were same weight, ty would beat the crap out of lu) WAIT! i have to correct myself. LU has a mech arm. That would still be a weapon. And he still looses fdsdfdf

i can imagine mako mock lu about lu not being so tough without his powers. (lu is a strong fighter without powers, he has trained with his family. however. tyrek is a mosnter in physical combat. he is my strongest oc in a fight without powers. with powers. maybe victor was close to abandoning his plan? Or considering it?? and maybe with tyrek finding out his plan. He impulsively started it since he felt he had to make a choice but idk about that. it's possible that victor is extremely determined to do it because he wants to make the world safer for them. and in suicide squad fight neither ty or vic was willing to let the other stop them. ----------------------------

in the old suicide squad (when i didn't know who the boss was) ty has no idea lu is in suicide squad. he is confused by his powers are disabled. in this revamp. he knows where lu is and request to be on the same team. --------------- Why mako and cyrus fail capturing lucian: Quickest answer: 1. He can take away their sight and impact all their senses. they risk hurting one another. I got feeling they might have accidently hurt one another. Maybe mako sends a attack in desperation to hit lu and he hits cyrus (it will be fine, he can heal cyrus) It seems more logical mako will mess up. but cyrus has been punching bag. it's possible that cyrus might fire off a blast since he is desperate to make up for mako. or maybe they both fire a attack, knocking each other backwards. i lean on maybe they both send each other flying and maybe lu shouts at them to be careful fdsfsd he doesnt want them to get hurt. and when he sees they will be okay, he runs off.

2, Lucian wasn't in the justice league for nothing. He is strong. and he is undercover cop. 3.its possible lucian was already aware they were going to go after him? it will show him being strategic too. Maybe they think they captured him and its a illusion (but i dont think that is canon, since i think that is ty versus vic thing. when vic asks ty to join his side or let victor take tyreks powers away. ty pretends to be on victors side and tries to knock him unvoncious. and he finds out it was a illusion spell or fake copy of victor. HOW LU MIGHT KNOW CYRUS AND MAKO PLAN In old canon lu kept an eye on cyrus. and in the text above in the tab i explain those things. Lu most likely knows there is going to be a party (especially if it's birthday or he has heard makos family talk about it when he was spying on them. lu knows there is a chance cy might break down if cyrus finds out who tyrek is. there is family pictures there and cy saw tyreks face so lu waits. probably also for cyrus safety. in case if there is a fight. i lean on lu saw mako and cyrus fight and almost intervined. he probably follows them ( if william has heat sensors. I think lu's illusion will mess them up, and maybe this is what prevent william for picking up who is there?? i think i read in wiki page some illusions can mess with tech. so it's possible lu messed them up. although i crack up imagining william seeing on the sensors that lu is following them. and william being terrified for mako fdsdfsdf lu wouldn't hurt mako. (Unless mako tried to hurt lu's family, like cyrus. then lu would knock mako unconcious to stop him)

The main reason I needd them to fail, is because of rakel and dami alliance with haruna. and this also helps with the nightstalker arc. she sees the pair is able to handle lu. her people weren't able to handle lu/havoc.

-------------- does mako and cyrus see ly being taken down by rakel and damien? i lean on they do. since it might be funny to see mako cheer over lu's unconcious body. and mako mock lu. lu can't hear it since he is unconcious but mako gets steam out of his system.

is rakel disguised as a secondary hero? any hero at all? or maybe she is disguised as random civilian and knocks lu out (maybe she was waiting for lu to get around a corner and knocked him out I laugh imagining mako cheer on manticore knocking lu out. but i dont think its canon since then mako would find out rakel is manticore. i lean on if mako finds out rakel is manticore, it might be when damien is going in the reality warp. and rakel and damien share a goodbye kiss in case he doesnt come back. if rakel is manticore he will connect the dots BUT. rakel might be in secondary costume. so haruna doesn't find out rakel is manticore + avoid the chance of the public analysing manticore. at the moment. rakel would not care anymore of the risk of people finding manticore is a pair with icarus. since she doesn't want to loose the c hance to say goodbye. i lean on they are somewhere private or hard to see since they are close to reality warp i dont think mako gets to see rakel face? (or maybe not at first? i have a image in my head were he is seeing them kiss. but maybe thats after he has analysed the situation and then moves to check if he is correct?) he sees manticore kiss icarus. so mako is: icarus/dami is cyrus dad. damien/icarus is married to rakel....... there is no way damien is cheating..... (and their interactions are identical to rakel and damien) mako realize rakel is manticore. and he moves to see their face. OR he sees them share a kiss but the helmet only reveals their lips. he knows who icarus is. so he knows its damien under the helmet fdsfdfd and with how they say goodbye he knows its rakel.

i can imagine mako gawking, jaw dropping. i havent found out if he is being superfan boy at the revelation or if he will be upset about the mystery being gone fsdfdds + she is cyrus mother fdsfds i often wonder why he likes manticore. is it the mystery?? or did one part of it start if mako was short like tyrek as a kid?? i often imagine one of manticores fanbase is short men? seeing manticore owning "his height". damien was short when he was young. and she loves dami as he was/is. so i can imagine she likes being "model" for short people since she knew how insecure damien was (damien was also insecure because he was often called babyface and mistaken for being toddler, infantalized by people who didnt know his age. and he was often too embarassed to tell them his age,, especially to strangers. he prefered to act along and then leave as fast as he could because of how embarassed he was ) I lean on mako likes the mystery, he is def fond of manticores clothes. (its bit male version of charlottes's clothes) and maybe he also likes the horror like theme to manticore?? with bonemanipulation she can change her appearance. and of course. he lieks how aggressive/rough manticore is to villains. and maybe he also likes that manticore enjoys a challenge and doesnt use her poison since she likes challenging fight. it's not fun in paralyzing a opponent straight away. in the past, before she become a mother. i think she let villains go if she lost a fight. but when she became a mother. its possible that changed. that if it seems like she will loose she will paralyze the opponent. she wants her kids to be proud of her. so if she can capure a villain. she will.

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i realized with icarus trying to rehabilitate deity haruna. he wanted to give the nightstalker organization a deity that deserved their worship

human haruna doesn't deserve to be worshipped fsdffd but they get a somewhat rehabilitated piece of deity haruna. and that is the peace they get for interrupting his rehabiliation.

maybe the rehabalitation is also the reason icarus didn't attack the organization. he hoped a rehabiltated deity haruna would change their views. that way there wouldn't be more conflicts and less people would get hurt because of crash in conflict between nightstalker and humans (if its canon deity haruna dislike humans and that she treats nightstalkers well) -----------------

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since damien is immune to magic. maybe mako is eager to have damien as his sparing partner?? although mako could have ty as his sparring partner since ty has insane invulnerability. i can imagine mako be entertained to see damien immune to his attacks. treating damien as squishy toy fsdfd victor would also be a sparring partner if he had his powers. he most likely has phasing magic but i dont think mako or the others are comfortable with mako going all out at victor, to be on the safe in case if victor gets distracted or something. i think vic would be fine. he is smart and good at paying attention. they lost vic 2 times. they dont want a third ffdfs

and if mako has earth powers. then damien could cast magic spell like phasing too. or that mako only use magic. since it's the immunity he is amused about.

Maybe mako has earth powers too? (of course he can do earth based magic) Maybe its safe haven's back up in case if someone like icarus became their opponent?? Safe Haven already has Charlotte and victor with magic. Mako is a back up as vessel for any of his parents deities if they rebel. maybe if the parents doesni't rebel. Mako is suppose to help fight opponents that might be immune to magic. and i can imagine since payton has 3 powers too. I think safe haven tried to make the kids more powerful than the parents. They didn't succeed with payton on that attempt fsfdfd Mako, I got no idea. I know he is strong. Idk if he would surpass his dads. Vic and Ty are incredibly strong and trained in the most intense environment. fighting to survive. Mako has trained hard but he hasn't feared for his life everyday like his parents has AND they have deities in them. Mako doesn't. so it's possible charlotte might also still be more powerful than mako.

so mako might be in same scenario as cyrus versus damien. IF mako or cyrus was fused with one of their parents deities. they would have a chance. i think it would need to be their parents deities. since i think in deity past. their parents were stronger because they are older. ( i know in mythology some deities also get stronger kids. i lean on when it comes to icarus and his kids. I'm certain icarus is tronger.

IF damien didn't have icarus. then cyrus would have surpassed damien in terms of raw strenght, while damien would be the most strategic. damien would probably win if he used his tech against cyrus + more strategic. cy is strategic too but dami has science background to help him problemsolve fast and know what will work. and maybe damien would be better on sensing? MAYBE speed but since cyrus has raw stenght. cyrus might be faster if they raced in straight line? damien has skated since he was kid, and practice speed daily. cyrus practice a lot too but i think his focus is combat. he will try to gain other skills dami has.

deity cy might be stronger than pandora?? it depends what type of powers pandora has. i'm very certain she is some sort of chaos/destruction deity (she only causes destruction when it's neccesary to restore balance, so i think that makes her respected by icarus followers, that she is "good" type of destruction

main point is. safe haven tried to make the kids stronger. so it's possible mako has magic and earth powers.(possibly shapeshifting or some sort of shifting since he has pointy ears that he hides. i think his form changes more than that. it would be cool if he tok a demonic/monster like form)

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- I need to draw the guys drinking. especially mako. so can show he is influenced by the alcohol. additional note why alcohol is important: and i can see cyrus try to lie about not using powers. when he is caught by mako. i can see cyrus have a smile/grin that also clearly shows cyrus is a mess and has hit rock bottom. and cyrus tries to laugh and pretend that mako is just seeing things because he had too much to drink. and mako isn't interested in mind games. and probably repeats something like "where is the body cyrus?"

or its possible mako doesn't say anything at first when cyrus sees mako. mako is upset that his suspicion is confirmed. cyrus doesnt know what mako has seen. cyrus will maybe laugh about the storm and talk about something random. and mako maybe says he doesnt care he is coyote. maybe cyrus comments alcohol.and thats when mako jumps to the body. it's also possible mako just ignores the storm comment and asks cyrus were the body is. and cyrus makes the alcohol comment then. (mako has been drinking + mako often plays pranks on cyrus. so cyrus doesnt want to gamble on it being a prank and accidently confess. but i think cyrus can tell. this isn't a prank. since i think mako often is happy or at least appear neutral/calm. now he is standing and being quiet. and doesnt seem to be in the mood for pranks. and that mako doesnt bounce off cyrus comments. is another way for cyrus to know it's serious.

Maybe one reason mako saw cyrus become horrified seeing tyreks picture. i think earlier that day. cyrus was going to ask payton out to dance. payton has her back turned so she doesnt see cyrus reach his hand out to touch her shoulder to get her attention. so mako jumps out of the blue, grabbing cyrus. and get cyrus to dance with him. later that day. mako sees payton approach cyrus. and he sees cyrus freeze. /maybe he sees cyrus face? no matter the angle he will see the horrified face since cyrus yanks his hand free from payton and has a horrified face as he runs out. so i think mako sees cyrus back. and then sees cyrus face when payton takes his hand and runs out the door. mako will look at the family picture and connect the dots 1- cyrus is terrified of earth manipulators 2. payton might have shared selfies of cyrus and her when she was with cyrus. at first mako would be upset of cyrus "ignoring " him (cyrus phone was destroyed so he didn't get messages from anyone, and he wasn't mentally in shape to get new one. and he was avoiding lucian. he wasn't taking care of himself, barely ate) and in those selfies, i bet mako can see how messy things are in the background. he will also see cyrus is a mess too physically, the hair longer, facial hair. cyrus often presented himself well. and mako hasnt seen this. 3. cyrus has often poofed. in the past. and he disappeared the same time as tyrek died. 4. mako hears about the mask being burned. mako thinks lu is dead. leaving cyrus and icarus/damien as suspects 5. he sees cyrus freeze and stand still. (maybe cyrus blocks the view, so mako doesn't know why cyrus stopped moving. although mako knows the family pictures are there. and he is intelligent. 6. sees cyrus horrified face. cyrus running outside in a storm. and he most likely ran without taking his belongings with him. (in the art mako has a bag with him)

(i laugh imagine mako thinking "is this guy posessed by usain bolt??!?? " he has never seen cyrus run that fast (without using his energy powers for speedboost) 7 cyrus breaking down by the river, using his powers and not being disguised. i lean on the party is probably at mako and paytons home. so can have the goofy wardrobe scene with mako's closet filled with manticore stuff." there is probably more. but i bet it's in this mako tab or i will fill it out later. -------------------------------------- i also keep imagining tyrek requesting to be put on the same team as lu. so he can get payback (just give lu a bit beating for burning his face and killing him) and then so he can work on peace. and make up for the trouble he caused schmidt. especially cyrus. i can see ty say something like "i need to make it right for them...(schmidt) and the kid. by keeping eye on lu, makign sure he is safe.

vic asking if tyrek is certain about this. it's "suicide squad" meaning. victor has to implant the bombs. It's also possible victor is reluctant about putting ty on most dangerous teams victor wants to see what he can do to find excuse to put ty on the less dangerous missions. the excuse of ty has just been ressurected and needs time to regain his strenght (which is true. the facade of cant risk loosing a valuable asset and give him time to adjust to the environment. victor will want to focus on preparing a escape plan while ty is on the less dangerous missions. doesn't want to loose ty again.

and i see the crack (maybe canon) of tyrek saying "have i ever let you down?"

and vic is silent (maybe victor is about to look at the tank tyrek was in (its possible the tank isnt there, that ty is in a cell or maybe there is a tnak in medical room for emergencies.) and ty quickly corrects himself with "wait don't answer that" if ty hadnt interrupted i think vic would have hinted to ty getting himself killed and here they are sitting in belle reve (the biggest let down would be tyrek breaking up with charlotte and then marrying haruna fdsdf especially marrying haruna )

it's possible that victor put lu in the most dangerous risky missions (to trigger lu's reality warping powers, so he can steal it from lu when the time is right and before lu even realize what his powers really are. i can imagine if lu knew what it was, he would consent to loosing his powers (which is a plot armor in suicide squad why he doesnt do it. maybe its because he is panicking? or maybe because vic is somewhere else + he might have killed victors followers by accident. that they tried to take his power away. or they are already taken out so there wasnt anyone to take his powers away when his powers was triggered when he was fighting the monsters)

vic will use the excuse its payback/punishment on lu. but he is close to schmidt. so i think he doesn't like to do it to lu? or maybe he is very upset with lu killing ty so he lets his emotions get the best of him ,and since he wants lu to get reality warping powers, its easier for him to make the decision to put lu in dangerous missions (while also believing lu will be able to handle it. since he doesnt want to loose lu. 1 he would hurt schmidt even more. he is hurting them by putting lu on these missions but then again. i think they believe in lu to handle it? see it as neccesary rehabiliation + ty is in the team too, to keep an eye. (which lu takes advantage of fdsdffd but it also backfires one them when they fight without their powers and lu has to take tyrek out from danger. tyrek knows it's a facade. vic won't let a bomb detonate if one of them fail to protect the other. but lu doesnt know it. they cant trust lu with that knowledge since lu is still in "havoc mode" hatred towards villains. and being betrayed by someone he saw as friend or friend to his family. i think ty joins the team to keep an eye on lucian too. and maybe he also likes that he gets to do "good" hero stuff for once.

additiona notes about bombs in suicide squad: (but they know william can tinker with the bombs, so no one in suicide squad can detonate the bomb. or maybe tyrek fakes alliance and they take the bomb out. victor wouldn't want tyrek to have the bomb in him when he has revealed his plan. maybe uses magic to get it out too. doesnt want it to detonate in case if tyrek joins his cause and a opponent is able to manually detonate if for some reason.

Possible dialogue order?? or impression if dialogue Ty: put us on the same team Victor: not a chance... (maybe talks about they are going to put him on a different team while working on escape plan ty: when have i ever let you down? victor:..... (i dont know if victor is silent because he is like "look at where we are" type of look or he is silent because he is internally thinking about all the times ty let him down, like ty broke up up with charlotte when vic faked his death, ty married haruna. the deity what put them in this plade to begin with, ty hurt his family and friends because of haruna. ty died because of haruna, ended up in belle reve. Ty: Wait, don't answer that *maybe there is something happening here, maybe ty has a bit dejavu of victor didnt hesitate to call him out like in old times . maybe he mumbles somethng about "this feels like just like old times"

and ty might end it with "i need to make it right...i owe them that" or some talk about about cleaning up the mess he made. def something about cyrus. "i need to make it right...for the kid..." and vic sees ty is still his old self too. he isn't completely whipped by haruna fdsfdsfsd and vic allows it because ty's intentions is MOSTLY good. ty just wants to throw in a few punches first as payback for lu burning his face and killing him.

Possible extra scene (i'm certain victor does this interaction, the question is when. i think it's when tyrek is ressurected. which might be this day, so he could be doing it twice that day.

i can see victor touch tyreks hair/head as he says something like "very well" victor probably has feeling ty will shave his hair because of trauma with safe haven + whipped by haruna. he touches it one last time. maybe it's also one last time in case if he has to start his suicide squad plan before tyreks breaks out. in case if he never gets the chance again to touch him like how ty truly is/and how he remembers him. The longer hair is also true to tyrek being himself. Short hair is "safe haven/haruna mode and loosing himself"

i laugh at the image of victor had to planned to mess with the tech to allow tyrek some time to beat lu, like the mic not working so they can't yell out tyrek to stop. but cyrus and mako interrupts the plan (a tiny bit) cyrus will freeze and look horrified. and mako will be excited cherring ty on and forget lu is cyrus uncle + cyrus has ptsd fsdfdf and mako yells ty to stop- i dont think the fight last that long but it probably felt long for cyrus and lu. while it felt too short for mako, vic and ty fsfsdfd

---------- i also laughed at the crack maybe canon?? of tyrek wearing the brown clothes (it was accident they became brown. maybe brown clothes is to say they are new in suicide squad?? thought it might wreck lu's ego. here he is as leader. and out of the blue comes a stranger "rookie" and claims the leader role in seconds ( i think the team mates will want ty as their leader by seeing his skills)

Lu: Build a big rep and shown what he is capable of Ty: Yeet lu around like he is a ragdoll

Lu is strong. but against ty....he stands no chance fdsfd it's quite a entrance for ty its possible the team would be terrified of tyrek. although he stops fighting when mako shouts stop. so he shows self control (he was planning to stop even if mako hadn't yelled)

and lu has a habbit of provoking people. so i can imagine they are like "finally" at someone kicking lu's ass. or maybe just waiting for someone to react to lu

-------------------- Tyreks hair I also wonder... since vic touches tyreks hair. and if tyrek reacts in some way to it. Maybe awkward comment about being married fdsfd or just questions things? then again he hasn't seen vic in ages so he might not react to being touched. they were used to being close as kids (which made tyrek accidently friendzone victor, since he assumed everything was platonic + ty struggles with sexuality in human safe haven au because of trauma in safe haven. he was focused on survival and lost people all the time. he feared getting close and loosing someone. but i think he fell for charlotte. so its canon how vic comfort him.

IF ty questions vic about the interaction, maybe vic makes a comment about he wants to remember/memorize this as best he can (before tyreks shaves it) or maybe vic comments something like it's nice to see ty be himself. and THEN he touches tyreks hair. then touching the hair is extra way of victor hinting to ty being himself mentally (that he has mostly good intention with being on lu's team) and physically (the hair being longer.

to summarize vic: touching tyreks hair ty: decides to keep his hair (first step in staying true to himself and breaking free from haruna. i see haruna at visit maybe making comment about his looks. and tyrek proudly owning it. haruna: disgusted face vic *struggles to contain his facade. proud of tyrek breaking free + satisfaction of seeing haruna disgusted.

Cons and pros Pros: might be more comedic scenes Pros: the short hair helped to show the timelines?? its not super important but it's something to keep in mind.

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repeated text about hair even vic is going to be surprised by tyreks actions

the reason he touched tyreks hair to begin with is because he thought ty would shave it. he wants to remember it as well as he possibly can (since he is preparing to say goodbye to everyone. if everything goes according to plan. he won't survive casting the spell. it will take his life

maybe vic comments something like it's nice to see ty be himself. and THEN he touches tyreks hair. touching the hair is extra way of victor hinting to ty being himself mentally (that he has mostly good intention with being on lu's team) and physically (the hair being longer. .\

and since victor is planning to leave everyone behind by using his life to cast the spell. he will be happy to see tyrek break free from harunas control and stay true to himself. that makes him more confident that tyrek will be fine in the future.

and vic hopes that ty goes back to charlotte

i also laugh at victor: touching hair since he thinks its last time he sees/feels it ty: imma keep it

(and they refuse to let victor leave fdsdffds so he gets to touch tyreks hair as much he wants when he is ressurected + they both get charlotte fdsfdsfds

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another reason tyrek regains his identity (it's good since it builds up for haruna requesting divorce (and ty instantly agrees)

it might help were victor slips more for lester and ty to pick up on things?

i think the main victor will slip when someone is going to take suicide (victor doesn't think he will survive casting the spell and he doesnt want to live with what he is about to do) some might feel happy and relief that things will be over. i can imagine if victor think everyone will be okay without him. he will maybe become relieved. and maybe its also if they are getting close to unlocking the reality warp? it's a bit sad that if victor tries to trigger the reality warp, and the destructin it causes. although damien is there to absorb it and people are getting help evacuate. people were already evacuating because of the monsters and victors followers. even though they were only after those who rejected losing their powers. there will be people like ty, fighting. so its safest to get away from danger ------------------------- rakel and damien poison lu. in the old canon rakel poisons lu when he is at dinner table. maybe in the new canon. damien is able to sense where lu is. rakel (using illusion disguise) pretends to bump into lu by accident. she uses a small needle like spike to puncture lu (like she did to damien, when he asked her to poison him so he could make sure everything was real and not fake. he had never seen her make a small spike like that before and he didn't feel it at first either) maybe rakel is a gremlin and wants to see how far lu goes?? and when lu realize his poisoned he will try to run/escape and find a place to hide/collapse

god. now i imagined him hiding in a dumpster and rakel going "aww, he finally found his home" it feels a bit anticlimatic. maybe he is about to hide in dumpster and when he sees rakel and damien, he decides to mess with their senses (dami will most likely sense him since it takes energy to make those illusions + even if he doesnt sense lu. when lu finally collapse. damien will follow his energy footprints.

i also like the idea of lu fighting back to his last minute (he wouldn't kill them. family is his weakness. i can see him try to knock them out but that is very futile against someone like rakel who regenerates extremely fast fdfds he is best of running but damien will track him down. still running is best. he can HOPE he got far enough away for dami to loose track of him.

OR maybe rakel is prideful. she dosnt like to poison a villain since she likes a challenge. lu is a fitting challenge. and she is upset about all the pain lu caused by faking his death and not coming to them.

--------------- extra note about the hair. maybe victor doesn't say anything about tyreks hair? or it's too vague like "its good to have you back" and its open if he just means "back from the dead" or if he means more , like ty being himself . which is both. its bonus for vic to see ty brought back and see the real tyrek is still there. he would be worried that ty would be lost as "mayhem" that haruna created (although victor plays biggest role in creating mayhem. that was the final straw that broke tyrek, first it was abuse from safe haven, losing people. then losing vic and more family/friends. the orphanage. he broke donw. -----------------------------------------------------

i laugh how mako's cheering is just a massive motivation boost for tyrek even more!

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is mako a jack of all trades, master of none? (or maybe that is payton? )

I think i lean on mako was made after payton (but they are born the same time, lied about being twins. and that mako is a "improved prototype" of payton. or like i wrote in makos tab. payton focus was to become osiris vessel (which is still canon, the question is mako's role) and mako might be backup for any of the 3 deities if safe haven fail with brainwashing. and if they succeed with brainwashing then mako is supposed to help the "safe haven squad" in taking powers away (keep in mind, i think safe haven had people with different intentions. like some people only wanted miliary/service people to have power so they could continue to profit of mutants. and so they still have power and control by choosing who to grant power. others like victors family, just wanted to gain knowledge about the world and the universe and wanted to do genuine good. victors parents wasnt aware of how messed up safe haven was until safe haven wanted victor (they would have used mirabel as selcouth vessel if she hadn't become pregnant. and like i mention in other tabs. i think this is what victors parents take advantage of. safe haven keeping secrets from one another and having different motives. use that to divide and conquer .

-------------------------- i have to correct myself. Osiris shapeshift, selcouth. i'm very certain charlottes deity also shapeshift ( i just dont know if charlotte is fully fused or not . i think i lean on she is fully fused but that is what i said about damien too. that damien was either fully fused or he would fully fuse with icarus when the trial room was done. so i said "fully fused" to icarus too until i started testing how it was with icarus CURRENTLY! i think i lean on charlotte might be fully fused since we dont have that (which was one of the reasons icarus was supposed to be fully fused)

so mako can shapeshift naturally like payton because the deities can shapeshift. or he uses magic to shapeshift. he is able to somewhat change his appearance since he gains markins when he uses his powers. and i'm certain the pointy ears is his natural ears that he hides?? then again, having unusual apperance isnt uncommon but my ocs will do everything to hide the kids from people like safe haven. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

One thing that might set mako apart. Maybe safe haven managed to summon zagan? (mako's deity? i think i lean on mako's real name is zagan, same as deity name)

i lean on no, since mako was just a fetus. so i dont think they managed to zummon zagan.

---------------------------- zagan fitting as a base theme for mako's deity

zagan has a bull theme? which is fitting with osiris/apis bull theme

AND it's traumatizing for cyrus. if mako shapeshift into something that looks like mayhem. osiris has looks like the horns, fangs that is similar to the oni masked mayhem. mako has most likely not seen the mask. he knows ty got a mask burned to his face but i dont think he knows any details about the appearance.

UNLESS, the mask is with safe haven people. i think charlotte tok the mask off since she tries to ressurect tyrek (i think victor tries to discreetly ressurect tyrek to, for example using the angle to his advantage. placing his hand on tyreks back the others doesnt see vic casting magic. and i bet its flashy when charlotte cast magic too. so its possible charlotte and others have the mask. maybe william. to take investigate and find fingerprints/evidence who the culptrit might be etc (evidence is a bit ruined if charlotte touched it. but they are focused on ressurecting tyrek and cant waste any second.

and even if he knew how the mask looked like. (maybe he snoops around to find out more about what happened) he MIGHT still shapeshift. mako has been drinking and is emotional mess from the loss + hearing the truth about how tyrek's brutal death. so if cyrus is being reluctant to tell the truth, especially protecting the person who burned tyreks mask. (i think mako is smart enough to know cyrus wouldn't do something like that. especially seeing how cyrus breaks down. but he wont fully cross it out. cy could be breaking down BECAUSE he burned the mask to tyreks face. i think mako would know cyrus didn't do it because he wanted to, that something went wrong. he most likely suspect its damien who burned the mask. of if he thinks its cyrus he might say something like "was it neccessary to go that far??" (influenced by alcohol) and maybe after that be quick to realize cyrus didnt burn the mask.

so if cyrus is reluctant to tell the truth and/or taking all the blame (like the mask being burned) or protecting who killed tyrek.

or that cyrus tells the truth (or maybe not telling who the killer is) and mako thinks cyrus is lying about cyrus not taking the body (because of alcohol and emotions)

mako will be desperate to get the truth. so he might shapeshift. he knows cyrus has trauma with earth manipulators. and i lean on mako uses earth manipulation (or earth based magic) being similar in fighting like tyrek is. it might be mako's way of "Honoring" his uncle. to use earth powers to gain justice for uncle/dad's death.

and i think it makes it even more emotional/impactful? mako fighting and looking like mayhem/tyrek/osiris and i think it would make cyrus fall apart even more.

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Another reason I lean on Tyrek regaining his sense of idenity. Losing victor was the final straw that made him become "mayhem" and easy for haruna to sculpt tyrek into mayhem even more (maybe thats why ty fell for haruna. she is polar opposite of charlotte and vic (i know he would go for someone polar opposite to them to avoid being reminded of charlott and vic) and also haruna using tyreks pain to her advantage. enabling and making him even worse in those views

ty will of course feel hurt vic hid all the time but i think the happiness of getting victor back + being ressurected beats that very easily. i think he is also focused on that happiness. and with victor revealing he is alive. that is the first brick to tyrek staying true to himself. A lot of the pain he carried because of that loss has been lifted.

to clarify. ty did bad things so he could achieve good. However, he as ruthless towards villains.

i feel bad giving this example. Keep in mind. this is IF ty was only friends with haruna or if haruna was a stranger. especially a stranger. for example. IF someone like haruna tried to get tyrek to hurt the people he loves, like the way she did up to suicide squad. for example through blackmail. ty would have destroyed her. and most likely set her as a example for whoever she has as allies to stay away from him. he has to be ruthless (in a "fair way" in order to have control over the business. the control either coming from respect in how he handles things and or fear. like if someone walked out of his business he would let them leave. but if he suspects they might try to make a deal with cops. he would come for them. so others who leave wont think of doing the same. but i think that is more haruna thing to do. i have feeling ty was well respected and he was very analytical in who he hired (and this also helps with a lot of people leaving harunas business when tyrek leaves the business and hands it over to haruna.

so i dont think victor needs to make a comment about old ty being back. i think he might do a vague comment which i wrote about in this tab mako earth manipulator tab ( i will try to find it and copy paste to victors tab) think the comment could be something vague like "good to have you back" (back allive, and back as he is. vic means both but it could be interpreted as just back allive"

i think its enough for ty to see vic again to start to untangle everything haruna morphed tyrek into.

and i like that vic touching tyreks hair (no matter what victor says as he is touching it.) boosts tyreks self identity more.

and i like that vic touching tyreks hair (no matter what victor says as he is touching it.) boosts tyreks self identity more. (it could be subconcious at first. since he is about to shave his head. and when he decides to leave it as it is. thats when he is making concious choice to be more true to hismelf. the shaving might have been auto pilot from being used to harunas wish + the subconious/ptsd of being in safe haven. that he has to become someone else to survive.

Im still open ty MIGHT shave it. but i lean on he keeps it. so his story is becoming more true to himself, and like i wrote in other tabs. victor will feel more safe/relieved to do his plan if he thinks tyrek will finally break free from the chains of control/abuse created by haruna and the past.

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people might think "what is the big deal" with something small like the hair. I think a lot of people (who hasn't been abused or been through these types of scenarios) take for granted the freedom they have (it varies from country to country of course)

However. I can say from experience. When you are abused and people control who you are supposed to be and/or you have to become something else to survive. My own experience is. it made me appreciate and be grateful of the freedom when i gained it. (not fully free but you get what i mean) and it makes me much more aware of how easily people can take things from granted. for example. if you are used to being able to walk. and suddenly you can never walk again. or if you can see and then suddenly become blind. these things mean a lot but people might take for granted. especially being able to walk. you are used to having it and might not think about how fortunate you are to be able to walk.

for example. during covid. people lost their freedom. I dont mean to minimize/invalidate the pain people went through. since it's a lot of serious things that happened. i saw some people who refused to follow the rules. i think from the start. they couldnt handle "staying isolated" and to me. i was able to cope. i think i was isolated for...3 years?? i still live isolated. since i used the experience of being isolated till i was 25 to my advantage. and it was traumatic for me. i was isolated, became "free" and then isolated again because of welfare+ covid. i saw people who couldnt handle a few days of isolation. and to me. it made me think more about how freedom is something a lot of people take for granted because they are used to having it.

especially since those same people would look down on disabled people. like my family does. so to see those people who judge disabled people (where the covid isolation is just a normal life for them since they are isolated due to disability + not getting support to live free lives) i dont have much sympathy for people like my family. (who look down on disabled people) since they still don't see the similarities or share sympathy for disabled people even after covid. since disabled continue to live isolated and my family live a normal life and forget the feeling of isolaiton. and look down on disabled peope. i have sympathy for kind people and the pain they went through covid. -------- further note about identity and control and the topic about identity and control. when someone controls a person it starts small, like the hair, then it clothes and itr escalates. so it makes sense for ty to regain his own identity the same way. reversing everything haruna sculpted him into.

-------------------------------------- i think it's interesting how lu goes from being the "laughing stock" at times up to sucide squad (also feared during his havoc arc)

or if i put it this way beginning of suicide squad arc: feared??

tyrek ressurected (still beginning of of suicide squad. i see it as beginning for lu and tyrek) : lu is "laughing stock" end of suicide squad: lu becomes a "weapon of destruction" i realized now his comment about "nothing i can't handle" is KIND OF a future prediction. with reality warping. the imagination is your only limit. he becomes a secondary boss fight after victor.

so i think he kind of becomes a secondary boss. its when the schmidt genuinely think they will loose lu and damien. since i want to draw lu might have solved one issue or at least done a lot of solving, like monsters and followers. if damien is wounded i bet he would focus on protecting damien (damien would tell them to leave him behind) since the followers wont want damien to recover. so they will take the chance to try to take out dami, and cyrus to remove the batteries of the team.

so lu might have solved things but he also created a new problem. kind of worse problem??? since vics monsters goes after those who doesn't consent to loosing their powers (and have the ability to give consent. people who doesnt have the ability to consent. they loose their powers- since vic would never done this plan if he risked hurting children, elderly. people with mental or physical handicap. for example, coma. or like damien, who might loose conciousness. its possible vic might try to take damiens powers but i thik i wrote in the suicide squad why he most likely wont. since icarus is there + dami is almsot immune. it will take time. meaning he wont have enough time if the others stop him. he has better chance to try to take it from lu. rely on lu's adhd and impulse to want to save his brother to say yes without blinking. which might be canon and thats where icarus throws victor away before victor can talk to lu or doesnt get chance to finish sentence. i can imagine icarus will sense victors emotions from despair to hope and connect it to lu when lu runs over. so he yeets victor. they are bffs, so he knows well how victor thinks. and vic knows icarus/dami well too. but in desperation. i can see vic want to take the chance with lu even with icarus right behind him. ------------------------------------------------------------------ https://toyhou.se/12790474.mako-kowalczyk/26352039.mako-versus-cyrus-concepts#79493512

Concept of art: -mako versus cyrus, -illusion lucian sees them fight and almost stops the fight, - sees cyrus reveal the truth about what happened. maybe this is what provokes lucian to be more aggressive. mako knows and can tell the others. Lucian wants to take down as many as he possibly can (for his family's safety) before they can get him. it also depends if lu continues to follow and if mako and cyrus decide to keep it secret for now. Mako knows haruna is a villain. i bet that cyrus will talk about poison incident. and i think mako overhears haruna's views towards schmidt family. so mako wants cyrus to continue to keep things secret, at least to makos family. maybe they go to rakel and damien? or they try to catch lu on their own (and fail)

i also need to find out if lu is there or not.

if he is there.. i lean on he most likely is there and almost stopped the fight. and this way he also knows they will try to get him and he doesnt come back to his family yet because he knows they will try to get him. or maybe he only sees izzy? i lean on he still hides, so haruna wont find out yet its him. especially since it helps spread fear, if they think it's icarus (if they think it's icarus that also makes lu more aggressive. its double edged sword of they are terrified of damien and also put him in risk of haruna going rogue HOWEVER like i mentioned in tab. the others are threatening to hurt her if she doesnt leave schmidt alone. if she kills them. ty's death would be in vain + even if she kill damien. she risks facing icarus wrath (especially if she hurts rakel or the kids) and they cant protect her from icarus. charlotte is powerful but there is nothing she can do against icarus who is immune to magic if he really wants to take out haruna. i dont think icarus would hurt her if she killed damien. its the other family members he would break his rules of not interfering and protect them with everything he got.

so its possible lu is taking advantage of their fear for damien dsffd and that they dont even know if damien had anything to do with it. they just know that damien once he gains omni energy or/and has icarus help. he is most likely capable of putting a fight with tyrek, maybe even stronger than ty. they dont know how strong damien is. if he has gained omni energy or not yet.

if lu sees all of this. he knows there is high chance of the kids telling their families. and he most likely knows damien well enough that damien will try to track him. he doesn't want to give haruna a chance to hurt them.

this might be arc were lu realize he is alone by himself (its actually one of his fears, being alone. and he caused it himself by going solo to handle tyrek. if he had contacted rakel and damien things would have solved peacefully since damien would reached out to tyrek to talk and figure out what is going on. and it makes a chase more difficul to find and catch lu. they can't trick him like old canon of when he is with family that rakel poisons him. they have to most likely use a tracking spell (unless ly has something to be hard for tracking spell to use. a nother witch protecting him or a device) and damien going out to sense lu's energy and hope he is lucky to find were lu has been or is. dami and rakel will use illusion device so lu wont know if they are close while dami has the advantage of sensing him. especially if lu is using his own powers . its possible he is uing a illusion device that dami made so he isn't using his own energy to stay disguised. and that also minimize his energy signature for damien. damien has to get close to sense him or be somewhere lu has been and follow the "energy footprints"

handwritten text on the image + extra notes: illusion lu following the guys?

This might be the motive to lu going rampage as havoc. seeing cyrus tell the truth to mako

haven't decided if it's canon or what lu does (or where lu is. so far. i think he is followng cyrus because of the stuff i wrote further up.

some of lu's options: 1 create illusions to mess with cameras (Most likely)

2. Go to william to destroy the evidence. Less likely. Since william could trick lu and send video to someone. Lu MIGHT think william is on harunas side. william is on ty/schmidt/safe haven side. But lu doesn't know who he can trust + wont risk his family life to find out (haruna has already tried to poison them once and almost succedded if it wasnt for rakel picking up on the poison (and surviving the poison to tell them)

3. run to william and destroy the tech. i bet that william has "back up" computer roms for scenarios like this

so it's much more "bulletproof" that lu mess with the cameras there. especially with the guys been drinking. lu doesnt want either one of them to get hurt.

so its possible that william either only get chaotic statci video or everything appear normal. i need to check what illusion powers can to do cameras. i think i read they could mess with technology too. + he might be close to getting reality warping powers?? so he might do something like a hybrid illusion/ close to reality warp. but still not reality warp since otherwise vic wouldn't push lu or he would try to steal lu's powers (IF its canon vic planned to steal lu's powers. i lean on it's canon. since reality warping is incredbly powerful and gives him a chance against icarus? i think it would give a chance against icarus??? i thought vic was more powerful because of magic until i read what omni energy could do. it takes energy to reality warp. so thats why i'm like "woukd vic still be doomed?? i dont think he would? then again, even if it wasn't a back up as icarus. it would make victors plan go much smoother. since he hopes to take away powers and minimize the destruction as much as possible. so i lean on lu probably has powers he can impact cameras. and that probably also plays a role in how he managed to escape safe haven to begin with.

4- he reveals he is there and stops them from going there to begin with. he can flee from them. but maybe he doesn't want them to do things they will regret? like mako might be more motivated to tell family? and right now. mako is listening to everything cyrus is saying (after they fought) maybe lu hopes that mako will be on schmidt side?? and maybe also find out how much mako's family knows, especially since mako has been spying on his family

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DOES DAMIEN HELP IN RESSURECTING tyrek in suicide squad?

since damien sense victor and most likely also senses tyrek/ and osiris in suicde. victor can ask damien for help. I bet the others will ask damien for help if victor doesn't. and since damien knows victor is allive. i lean on damien will help. the question is: will he help from the inside as a scientist (since damien is currently unemplpyed) ? or the outside? Victor sharing notes/research with damien. SO FAR. I think i lean on the outside? However, If there might be interesting interactions working on the inside i'll gladly do that. and doesnt hurt to have a scientist oc working on the ressurection.

Then we have a character filling in the scientist role of helping. (maybe he gets to meet lester??? idk if it would be interesting or not. In the revamp it was angela who helped ressurect tyrek. so maybe damien can fill that role. he could also use a illusion disguise to take the role of someone else. i don't think he needs to cover his identity unless there are safe haven people who knows who he is. safe haven collapsed AFTER he poofed in the portal. so not many know he fused with icarus. a lot of witnesses died. the nightstalker organization most likely knows who he is . i lean on its most likely safe dami can be himself (also saves the trouble of making up a disguise design. damien has a good reputation as scientist. (brain: he was fired.... me: yeah... but i bet his boss maybe made it seem like damien left or still recommends him since damien was having issues because of family things going on. and up to that point, damien was doing well and would have been promoted hadn't cyrus stolen the tech suit and accidently sabotaged the meeting.+ it's vic who is the boss there. other workers there wont know if damien was fired or he left on his own

WAIT! Damien might need to have a disguise. or maybe plays the role as "undercover cop" since victor is planning to frame the place fdsf then again. i bet there are people there who are innocent in there too. so damien is just one of the innocent people. maybe vic gets damien to talk to neiva so she knows damien is investigating stuff going on in there.

( i laugh imagining icarus internally thinking "use your powers! " maybe damien tries with his powers?? but then he needs access to tyrek. william helps with the cameras. so vic might be able to help sneak. then we have 2 incidents were damien tried to ressurect someone and failed 1- victors family and friends 2.tyrek and then we have the third, were he succeeds with victor.

damien has most likely lost his job so he is available. it's also possible damien works on haven redux in memory of victor (he doesnt know victor is allive when he is fired from his job. its also possible that selcouth mentions building something like haven redux? over whatever project damien was working on? it has to be selcouth since i dont know when of if victor regains his memories.

or most likely: damien had already started it, since he is unemployed. selcouth will be touched that victor/selcouth sparked that haven redux project.

(i was going to say, that is most likely were they put victor, but i don't think so. i think they ressurrected victor/erased memories and tok him to their home and he wakes up in rakel and damiens house. they need to supervise him)

i bet the scientists that work with ressurecting tyrek. they don't have all information about what is going on in belle reve. There are a lot of people working there, and i bet not everyone know everything.

either damien makes a tank or he already had tank like this. he is parnaoid person. so i think he already had one.and he works on things from his own lab and victor shares notes with damien in private?? or does victor hire damien? that also helps in sabotaging for victor?? then agian. william isnt aware what victors plans are. if anyone is supposed to find out first. it's him with his hacking skills. it's probably victor making a "fake plan" as the boss of belle reve. or keeping all his plans in his head. or a fake plan in general in case if anyone snoops. he knows william so he will make plans to avoid people like him figuring things out.

OR maybe william finds out what the boss plan is. and that is what victor explain is the undercover job he is doing. gathering evidence to put the boss in prison or get justice for the victims.

AND my ocs will ask where victor has been and why he faked his death. I can see him tell them he is working undecover to catch people like the boss, make is safer for everyone with people like the boss behind bars.

IF dami works there. Why doesnt he tell cyrus about tyrek? maybe its the same reason mako and the others doesn't know? to avoid trauma. although it's different type of trauma. he doesnt want cyrus to relive the trauma. even though cyrus wants tyrek brought back if he knew. it's better to let cyrus have some peace. especially since they dont know if it will work or not

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Does mako know someone is helping ty from the inside and get to meet disguised victor??

Copy paste from tyreks ressurection tab: https://toyhou.se/3668194.tyrek-kowalczyk/26413634.tyrek-ressurected-concept-page

. in the old canon they helped to bring him back. like wiliam messing with the surveillance so vic and ty can talk (maybe mako gets private meetings too? But he can't tell payton. Payton isn't good at keeping secrets.then again. they dont want to do "Unfair treatment" so mako might not get to private sessions. i also like the idea of cyrus, mako and ty talk privately...scientists workin on trying to ressurect tyrek with lesters helpand i also like that MAYBE mako gets to talk to victor before he loose his memories? mako won't know vic is his parent or who is behind the disguise. and IF mako knows someone is helping from the inside and wants to talk to the boss. he could reach out to damien or any safe haven people to contact victor. or maybe victor meets mako disguised as someone else??

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https://toyhou.se/6629575.damien-schmidt/26417744.vic-charlotte-teach-dami-magic

VICTOR AND CHARLOTTE TEACHING DAMIEN MAGIC I realized. Victor must have taught or tried to teach damien magic when he tries to bring victors family back. The question is. did damien succeed in doing some magic or did he fail at it? and since he wasn't able to do magic. dami and vic lost all hope

with tyrek. vic could be teaching damien magic again. either learning more magic. if damien learned magic in the past

I THINK i might lean on maybe it's during suicide squad he is able to use healing magic?? or maybe learns healing when they try to ressurect tyrek. he is close to gaining omni energy so he should be able to perform magic. and he has vic and charlotte. two magic deities. he can't ask for better teachers.

and i bet by victor teaching damien magic. damien is getting even closer to obtaning omni energy. and i think victor saw that risk as worth it to get tyrek back (especially since he knows icarus can take the power away so the monsters will leave damien alone. this also gives a backstory about vic slowing down in his work to take powers away. he is spending time trying to get tyrek back, teaching damien things. which in return. saves victors life later.

maybe charlotte, vic and damien try at the same time charlotte and or dami will need to be disguised depending on if damien is hired there or not. damien can play the role as anonymous whisteblower on the organization. but then he has two whistleblower roles. then again doesn't hurt. or william is that whitleblower. he is undercover cop and working for neiva

Looking at the magic art. it looks more like reality warping? Or maybe I can reuse this. To show him trying to use healing magic on ty. Failing. (this is canon that he isn't able to cast resurrection spell. the question is. Could this be a fitting pose to reuse? To show Damien succeeding with Victor??

(With damien trying to ressurect Tyrek. The question is, do they sneak damien in as a different scientist or is he hired? (and william mess with the cameras to allow charlotte, vic and dami to try to unite in ressurcting tyrek.

I assume they test this out before they meet lester and as they are testing things out with lester. since it takes time for haruna and lester to develope some sort of bond/connection? and to meet?? and it seems like lu is caught early too? Since it seems early for mako to find out cyrus is responsible for tyreks death. and it seems to speed up. i know they will test out magic and will try anything they can. One thing that will sabotage is that people will come and go (unless they get in the building during night time?? william can mess with the tech/surveillance. if they try during daytime they will get interrupted a lot because of people getting close to the room (unless vic locks the door. which is possible, considering tyrek is high ranked when it comes to "valuable asset" so vic could use excuse of people he handpicked can enter and locking the door because of classifed reasons + to not interrupt whatever science they are doing maybe he is using osiris as excuse? i dont think so. i lean on osiris is a secret. That no one in belle reve knows that tyreks source of power is osiris. (then vic might have kept osiris in tyrek, in case if they do tests on tyrek. so they don't go "wait....our tech doesn't pick up on him having powers...are you certain you got a mutant (vic will lie saying he is a mutant) so i think i solved where osiris is. sealed off in tyrek. in a slumber. ----------------------------------- I laugh at the crack of (it might be canon. i lean on charlotte doesnt tell haruna that she is teaching damien magic (she can't mention victor to haruna anyway)

safe haven ocs: Warning haruna about how dangerous damien is. they can't save haruna if damien sets his mind into revenge (IF she tries to kill schmidt again) safe have ocs: procceeds to make damien more powerful by teaching him magic haruna: ?????? the confused meme

that is also difference between haruna versus vic. haruna: would not want to give a pontential threat even more power victor: accepts the risk that teaching damien magic may become his own downfall, for the chance to bring tyrek back. (instead dami becomes his savior, using what vic and charlotte taught him to save vic and to save himself to gain omni energy.

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--------------------------------- another things that makes damien fitting scientist. he has made healing syringes using rakels powers since he was in his teens. He has experience with creating items that help with healing regeneration with the use of someones elses powers.

so it's fitting tyreks ressurection is the use of science (mainly lester so its still superpowers but still they are doing trial and error from what i remember. lester learning to transfer his powers.

and victors ressurection is fully superpower/magic/reality warp/supernarutal. probably just reality warp, although i do like the idea of it being magic and reality warp combined. especially if it's damien doing it without icarus help (icarus helps with selcouth or teaches damien how to get selcouth soul and contain it. I like how victors ressurection seems like a hybrid technique of all the stuff he learned.

I laugh at how in suicide squad, victor tries to get osiris from tyrek (so tyrek will be normal) and victor had osiris in his hands sfdfdsdfs if he handed ty over to damien instead of taking tyrek to belle reve, vic would still had osiris. i think he needed to put osiris in tyrek since ty would be normal human without osiris. ty wasnt born with powers like damien. and belle reve would picked up on "this is just a human" when they analysed tyrek.

makes me happy to imagine charlotte and vic excited to teach and gain hope for getting ty back

in victors defence. he got the gun. and maybe he found dna connecting to the schmidt. so he feared damien killed ty fdsfd (I will laugh if that is canon. everyone scared of damien. the ptsd hearing all his messed ups trategies + have icarus ) i lean on victor might not have thought damien could help + didn't want to blow his cover and risk ruining his plan. and he ruined his own plan by focusing on ressurecting ty. since people found out he is allive and find out something was wrong.

I'm very certain victors parents made the gun, or the base of it?? OR damien made it and got help from victors parents? Or damien made a gun inspired by victors parents gun. I think it's possible victor and charlotte used their magic on the gun. so it would hurt victor that his magic was used to kill tyrek (when we have the old canon that i scrapped about victors magic impacting tyrek. that the price of victors magic was vic loosing someone. i felt it was too convient + he is a magic deity. i feel like he could bypass what would be normal magic "law" mostly too convenient. maybe i'm biased here. i feel like. the gun makes it better explanation and less "too convenient" in how victors magic "killed"ty. (+ probably charlotte too) the gun was made combining science and magic. and i thint charlotte used her magic too. and damien continued to work on it since he was...18??? to the current timeline.

so victor might have thought damien, or a schmidt tok down tyrek. he didn't want to take tyrek to the killer and risk tyreks body get destroyed or that he himself gets killed. victor is stronger than lu. it's icarus he fears. and i bet that victor could easily sneak and get dna samples from for example cyrus. make it seem like a stranger passed cyrus or pick up a glass that cyrus drank from. he doesnt need the dna. to clarify. the gun looks like a normal gun. once victor has got dna samples from the gun. he probablyt test the gun on something (unless there aren't any more "bulletts" left in it. damien gave the gun because there was a limit to "bullets" to it. so it wouldn't motivate cyrus to run in to oni masked villain business but i should be powerful enough to defend cyrus against a massive threat like tyrek (as long as cyrus get a chance to fire of the weapon)

considering how victors family was hiding form safe haven after it collapsed. and their places was blown up by the mutant that blew up the city. i bet that they either helped damien make a copy (to explain why the gun wasn't lost when their home was blown up) or they gave the gun to damien so he could make a duplicate/study it. or they gave it since damien is guading deity haruna. i lean on they taught damien to make a duplicate. or the gun wasn't destroyed when the city was nuked.it's made of science and magic.

i dont know how to use it the gun symbolicly. or how to explain it. if the gun was one of the the few things that was salvaged (or the only thing salvaged) does it spark some ideas in victor. the duty to protect? if it does, then victor would most likely take the gun?? (if he does, then damie would have made a duplicate in the past) or isnt he able to take the gun? he lets daimen keep it since dami is guarding deity haruna? icarus is stronger than selcouth, maybe it's victors way of protecting damien since icarus doesn't help damien (he only helped once, that was guiding damien to fly. that was a minor thing, to let damien have fun + it was to reward damiens bravery and willingness to sacrifice himself for family, friends and civilians to lure monster the bridge and blow it up. thinking he was going to go down with them.

main point about the gun was: victor didn't take tyrek to damien since he doens't know if damien shot tyrek. or a schmidt did it. and i bet he tok dna samples to find out that it wasnt stolen since he has so far only found dna from schmidt family on it fsddsf probably just damien and cyrus, MAYBE lu. but i don't think lu got chance to reach the gun? or if he did tyrek got lu to drop it before he got to use it. ---------------------------------------

to clarify with mako holding cyrus underwater and how cyrus fights back I lean on cyrus doesn't want to hurt mako. so he doesnt fire of energy . even if cyrus has given up, i htink his body with instictively fight back. cyrus could have used up his energy firing off in the distance. or mako stops himself before cyrus fire off energy it's possible cyrus put on power disablers during the fight, as a self punishment for tyreks death. then he can't fire off energy either

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when mako is cheering on to tyrek to keep fighting lu. I WONDER if mako has so much charisma as a sports commentator that the people working there are: 1. allowing the fight to continue since they are entertained by the fight + by mako as sports commentator 2. they are distracted by mako as sports commentator. Maybe somewhat forgetting there is a fight there and not a sports game

it's also possible that william is messing a bit with the tech. so they distracted with electronic malfunction going on. but then they could use makos mic

maybe victor chokes on his drink (he is caught off guard by their visit) . Maybe that causes distraction too i also imagine when the fight stops mako talks as if the fight is finished as if its sports game. probably also to maybe try to lighten up the mood. he might not know how to respond to cyrus so humor is his way of reacting to being the motivational speaker to tyrek.

i think it's funny that damien doesn't tell lu that belle reve has ty. Probably because of everything lu did and that he kept secret he was allive. + its also to protect victor.i dont think lu knows victor is there until suicide squad fight starts?

this is like take your kid to work day

i also see the crack of this is why victor stayed hidden from everyone to avoid scenarios like this were they almost spoil his cover by making him laugh fdssfd

3. I'm very certain it's canon since mako puts on a show. then tyrek will put on a show too. maybe that can be a reason the fight might be allowed to go on. and if people are laughing, its probably okay victor laughs too (if its in character for the boss to laught at those type of things MAYBE it's a good thing that tyrek puts on a show. either tyrek is rougher OR he is less rough, and it's more entertainment (but still scary for lu) mako might have made things better for lucian. and maybe because mako is goofing around. maybe it helps make things less scary for cy? don't get me wrong. cy will be petrified and triggered. subsconciously. if mako isn't scared (although mako wants revenge. but he doesnt want lu to die, especially not when he remembers it's cyrus uncle) it's like if you are scared of water. and you see others are out having fun. it makes things less scary, than if you both are terrified to enter the water? cyrus is probably disassocaiting. maybe even blocking out a lot of what is going around him. if he doesnt block out a lot.

i lean on mako goofily ends the fight. i wonder IF people are entertained. if they will clap?? idk if its good or not. i imagined mako goofily bowing to end the show and then discreetly check on cyrus. see if cyrus is okay.

and if people are entertained and influenced by mako. they migh deafen out cyrus. cyrus might not be able to speak much. in old canon he takes a bit . he freezes and then panics and tell the boss and others to stop the fight. here i lean on either maybe mako stops the fight or maybe tyrek himself. because if tyrek is "going easy" on lu, (lu will still be scared shitless) it would ruin whatever reputation lu has. or.... maybe not quite- the team has seen what lu is capable of doing. their powers are disabled. so the team doesnt know who is strongest with powers. i got feeling they will suspect ty might be strongest or that if they hear lu killed tyrek. there might be some words said between them were they realize lu didn't win fairly or he was lucky (meaning cyrus and that tyrek never planned to kill them, only scare them. there are notes about this in other tabs) main point is: they know what lu is capable of with and without powers. so to see a newbie come in and make lu look like a joke. i think tyrek will take the leader role of the group from lu. and if tyrek does it in humoristic way because of mako. that might help get the teams approval. of course. humor can also ruins things, like lu does. but i think tyrek demonstrates intelligence, strenght, self control, humor in a way he earns the teams trust.

i can imagine the others safe haven people, especially victor will want a copy of those recordings from william fsdfdf i think another reason damien doesnt tell lu. is that lu has been going on a killing spree. and tyrek has got his punishment. getting shot by cyrus. and then killed by lu. that death was brutal. and i think that brutality is why damien is most likely okay with tyrek fighting lu. especially since ty will request to be on lu's team to protect lucian. a payment to protect lu fsddsfsfd he would have protected lu even if he didn't get a chance to fight him. main reason is of course damien can't ruin victors undercover work. in victors tab i go in about I like how lu is mocked/laughing stock. and then turns into a final boss.

one possibility is "what if...victor was going to go away from his plan? and didn't plan to trigger lu's reality warp (flaw in this is that victor knows lu deity. and most likely knows what lu is. since i lean on vic wanted to steal lu's powers to help with his plan) ---------------------------------------------

https://toyhou.se/12789441.victor-kowalczyk/25974585.paytonmakoheritagesafehaven/gallery#79550556

After Vic, Charlotte and Tyrekk tell Mako and payton they are their parents. Victor reveals his true identity to the kids + cyrus Vic and Mako are laughing about how they look similar. Especially Mako, it answered all the mysteries like his eyebrows, unusual eyes etc

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(He is struggling hard to not laugh) https://toyhou.se/12789441.victor-kowalczyk/26388797.makocyfindouttyisressurected

such a proud dad of chaotic gremlin. i really want victor with his memories to interact with payton and mako! I have notes about this in mako tab or in tyreks reussrection tab.

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I'm so nervous and feel so bad posting this art! everything ends well. but this is brutal but then again. This is so showcase the dark side of mako. Especially since this is probably because tyrek couldn't breathe when he got the mask burned to his face. and this might be makos attempt to get the truth out of cyrus (or he still doesn't believe cyrus hasn't taken the body) mako stops himself. there is explanation about cyrus not using his powers.

this is also why i'm hesitant to post this on makos page. if its too much. + its still wip! and there will be comfort scenes afterwards. this is the rock bottom. and this is where they will work on getting back on their feet.

i think mako will be horrified about his own actions too. and that why he stops. realizing he is hurting his friends. i think he saw "tyreks killer" for awhile and not cyrus??and he wants closure to get tyreks body so can bury him. have a proper burial

i THINK in physical combat. cyrus might be stronger than mako. cyrus trains very intensely. and he can recharge himself like a battery to continue fighting like damien does to train. i feel like here in this fight. cyrus has ptsd + has given up. i think its his body having reflexes.

https://toyhou.se/12790474.mako-kowalczyk/26366042.mako-and-cyrus-return-to-party

this is so weird to think its the same day they fought dfsdfdfdfs this is also what help me draw the dark stuff. i focus on the good that comes afterwards. and them repairing their bond! -----------------------------------

https://toyhou.se/3668194.tyrek-kowalczyk/26388820.makocyfindouttyisressurected

this is first time tyrek hears mako's voice. ty becomes a gremlin dad who wants to make his son proud by beating up lu fdsdfs

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permalink to information https://paintberri.com/comments/65ff3612873c181b7479b15d

https://toyhou.se/12790474.mako-kowalczyk/26352039.mako-versus-cyrus-concepts proper burial

WIP!

Cyrus comforting mako!

There will def be more goofy scenes! figured i could share this one since it's cyrus finally getting a chance to comfort mako (his phone was wrecked so he had no idea what was going on with everyone else

I think they are supposed to stand to water high up to maybe waist? hips??

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https://toyhou.se/12790474.mako-kowalczyk/26071294.eyes-concepts/gallery

Victors eyes. I'm 99 percent certain these are still canon. I'm posting on Mako's tab as well, the only difference is that Mako is a odd eye. He also most likely either shapeshift to look normal or cast a spell to not have his eyes change, or they guys have mostly good control. The darker eyes is when they are moody. i think they also might flare/glow up when angry (it helps to make scenes even more intense if they flare up)

And on the talk about mako joking about being adopted. Nate is odd eye. So mako thinks he got odd eye from nate sdfd

Once I find the original file to victor (i think it's on external hard drive) I will try to draw mako's eyes. I did a quick overlay in the link above but it lost it's detail I wonder if mako makes his eyes appear more normal his family are doing their best to hide him. Safe haven wanted Victor and focused on him. so it's possible mako's eyes appear normal blue like cyrus when he wears contacts or at most has blue with white iris.

I'm aware the eyes are very mech like in design. and that was the original concept when working on victor. that victor got some parts of him replaced with mech (because of the mutant who nuked the city victor lived in. (i wonder if the suicide squad boss was reponsible for it. there are notes about it in one of the tabs.

I tok sceenshot of the tab here: https://toyhou.se/12789441.victor-kowalczyk/26411682.suicide-squad-boss-brainstorms

tab with information is here: https://toyhou.se/12789441.victor-kowalczyk/25986760.new-canon-conceptdraft

There are more links in link above. Like mako and damien has tabs with information

then again. even though it has mech look. i think i'll keep it. he is a deity. I got feeling victor lost limbs in the revamp but it's possible that someone like charlotte healed him??

in character. I think damien would have a healing syringe but that is anti climatic (maybe damien had used up syringes or they were ruined by the shaking the nuke caused to their house. then again i think damien would have strong containers i lean on damien was empty or he used it up on someone else (but he is on his way to victor. so i dont think he gets chance to look around much. he will speed fly to victor. so i lean on he didn't have more healing syringes.

i like the desperation scene of ty and dami finding vic in the rubble. and ty flying as fast as he can to get victor to hospital or to charlotte. maybe the healers in hospital are overworked? so it takes time for victor to get help? main point is that victor got his limbs back. he isnt mech, or if he was mech. he would cast a spell to regenerate later. if he had mech in him. ty would manipulate his body from the start (not morph it like the end. but more like, controlling were victor is and prevent him from fighting.

Victors eyes: He might cast illusion spell over his eyes. Or he is very good at keeping his emotions in check. He is def using illusion during suicide squad were he has different identity. When his eyes become darker and others see it, its for 2 reasons 1. he is furious and doesnt care anymore. Or it's intimidation? To show he is serious 2. sign of Victor being vulnerable. and allowing the other person to see him hurt (and possibly needing support.

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to clarify about damien/icarus showing the other the deity trial room. I think i explained this on other tabs. Icarus is not in the middle as a egocentric thing. (i'm doing it as a composition since i dont have other deities designs ready, except for pandora.

I think each rooms has a statue of a deity placed like icarus. and they are going in the trial rooms were icarus was summoned. i think he is placed in the middle to show/hint the person who managed to get this far in the trials. who they might summon. Give them a chance to go back if they dont want to summon icarus. or to conitnue forward. i also like the i idea of maybe icarus statue has his wings folded?? or he appears in front of that staue but his wigs are folded. and i bet there are other winged deities there, so damien doesnt know who is in front of him (he might not got much of a chance to study all the statues before icarus appeared.

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Sharing the image of tyreks gremlin smile hearing mako's voice

In makos tab I go in details about

i think it's interesting how lu goes from being the "laughing stock" at times up to sucide squad (also feared during his havoc arc)

end of suicide squad: lu becomes a "weapon of destruction" i realized now his comment about "nothing i can't handle" is KIND OF a future prediction. with reality warping. the imagination is your only limit.he becomes a secondary boss fight after victor.

AND this is also were Mako will most likely find out rakel is manticore.

The question is Will he be happy or broken about it (in comedic way)

I laugh imagine everyone: having teary goodbyes to damien, not knowing if he comes back

mako in the background: weeping over the mystery is now gone and manticore is cyrus mother. i see the crack of mako request charlotte cast a memory spell on mako so he forgets (or maybe he starts to like icarus when he tears down the organization. (i also see extra crack of rakel saying something like "do it or it beat the memory out of him >)" she wont beat up mako

HOWEVER. i also laugh at mako thinking dami it goody two shoes. and when damien destroys the organization. even mako is intimidated by icarus dsdf it says a lot when even mako is like "this dude is terrifying" especially if he has asked tyrek in the past who was tyreks most challenging opponents or who he would fear fighting, is anyone stronger etc. and if ty mentions damien. i can see mako laugh thinking tyrek was joking. i think damien would laugh too thinking it's a joke. and then a awkward pause going "wait....you are serious...?????" but idk if tyrek would say that in front of damien since he would then reveal information to damien. then again...damien has gained omni energy so he might think it's because of the omni energy (which is still possible) this would DEF make haruna believe in damien being ready to handle the organizaiton. its not needed. she sees enough in suicide squad. however, to hear tyrek say damien is stronger. and damien sees ty is serious about it. tyrek is undoing the manipulation he did to keep damien away from harunas business (to keep schmidt safe from haruna and the nightstalker organization. its also because ty knows damiens weakness is fighting humans. so he is sparing damien to have to fight humans. and he didnt know if damien was mentally ready. i think the suicide squad fight is what warms him up to do what is neccesary. and when the nightstalker oganization nukes the city. they sealed their fate and brought out the "will seek justice/balance in the world, doing whatever is neccesary" from damien. damien has no doubt about his skills. i like the idea that damien doesnt get help from icarus (although icarus is one the same page. or what icarus helps with is taking the power away from all nightstalkers (if they take the power away from everyone and not just the opponents) (haruna plays a role/influence in this. if she says this. dami icarus will not hesitate to take away all nightstalker power away. he will listen to her wish is and allow her to play role since she showed she changed. that was all icarus wanted. at least one of deity harunas soul to show they changed/rehabiliated.

i often imagined if haruna comments victor and talks about safety. and if tyrek mentions something like damien being stronger (i dont know if its canon. i THINK icarus is. because omni energy alone. can mimic other powers. he could be a reality warper like lu's deity. so there is two trickster brothers. or mimic reality warping + the energy drain. OR icarus is close to his original form. something like omni potence. i think that is same as reality warping just different word? or more powerful version. i think i saw people were confused about the difference between powers. so all he has to do is cast phasing magic and then drain ty's energy. victor doesnt have the energy draining so vic and ty had to "brute force" to tire each other out. vic has to cast a protection spell and that requires HUGE Amount of energy. and i bet victor cast phasing magic too. but he doesnt have energy drain.

i will try to draw a placeholder art for that too very soon!

to clarify: i dont know who is the strongest in their "complete form", it could be osiris selcouth icarus

Or osiris Icarus selcouth

or some sort of rock paper scizzor

osiris beat iarus, while icarus beats selcouth

doesn matter in final form.

i lean on in this form/au. that icarus is the strongest. i was going to say that "maybe because haruna betrayed osiris/selcouth/charlote family, did ambush. she won because that family split up more than what pandora and icarus family did. pandora and icarus also pretended they were gone (i think osiris family knew they were still home but kept is secret)

and icarus splits his soul to spread deity haruna around UNLESS icarus is jumping in different worlds to keep an eye on haruna. but he didn't split up further. i have art were he is wounded and helped by icarus followers. its possible he split. and maybe thats why he didn't help osiris/selcouth? ( i lean on he didn't know where they were) they were "safe" when he last saw them. and they were regaining their strenght. maybe icarus is often on the move to regain his own strenght? there are lots of worlds, so i bet he helped them in other worlds that might be simila to this world.

main point is: i often imagined icarus being more "whole" than selcouth and osiris in the human world were their souls split. ------------------------------------------- TYREK AND VICTOR OPPOSING VIEWS IN SUICIDE SQUAD SACRIFICE ROOM NOTES extra reason tyrek is against victor. i think they both use the sacrifice room as example of why they are on opposite sides: victor wants to take all powers away so there wont be more victims like them or at least. make the world safer for awhile when his loved ones live. or at least hope there will take some time before the chance of powers returning either through science or someone from another reality comes to this world (maybe thats why victor wants lu's reality warping powers. to reality warp away the science part. or the tech to create them? like wanda did in xmen wishing something like no more mutants

while tyrek will think anout how people will always work on obtaining power. (vic agree on this, but he is willing to take the risk to follow his plan to minimize the chance of this) obtaining power either by using science or creating superpower artifically through tech. for example implants that give you "fire powers" damien has a suit that mimics his energy powers that rakel wears during the time damien was kidnapped.

i keep thinking about castlevania comments ty: "so we use our heads" vic: or loose them

so to ty, it doesn't make any difference.

except maybe to victor its minimizing accidents like the mutant who nuked the city. of course if you build a artifical suit accidents still happen but at least people can then "choose" to have powers. there are a lot of people who sees their powers as a curse and will be eager for vic to free them of it

and haven redux is focused on training people to control their powers. and if they still want their powers gone. for example, if their powers are something like decay by skin contact. i can imagine some might still be paranoid to hurt someone. so charlotte, vic or icarus will take that power away if they dont want to learn to control their power instead or if they still fear their own power. especially since they never know if someone might mess wit their power disabler. or it malfunction for some reason. and then they might kill someone and thats how they find out the power disabler stopped working.

I can imagine my ocs will probably donate power disablers to those who needs it the most (i bet they would want to give it to everyone. but they need cash to fond it and make power disablers) ---------------------------------------------------- i have to correct myself about victor fighting back the instant he wakes up. if victor thinks damien is dead or going to die before he is sent in another portal. and he wakes up to seeing damien. it would distract victor for a bit. seeing damien. and damien could tell victor that everyone else are safe and it's over. victor lost. idk how victor will react. 1. might try to get back and continue to fight (but i doubt he has much energy left

might be a bit goofy incident (i dont want to minimize victor but i handle dark things with humor to lighten things up. i can imagine goofyness of victor firing off attack. and maybe damien in reflex panics before a attack hits him. thinking it will knock him out. and then "Oh!" being fascinated at being immune to magic. so he is basicly focusing on getting vic to stop fighting. like a adult trying to calm down a kid/or pet (i dont mean to minimize victor. its the only explanation i can give about damiens emotions/interactions IF victor wakes up and hasnt lost his memories. and victor can get out some steam.

however. i could see victor punching damien to try to get damien to let go. and not use magic anymore. and damien is quick to energy drain him. put victor on a time out. or damien knock victor out (panic? i lean damien has enough confidence to just energy drain. its a bit funny to imagine ty being impressed with the punch and also scared of damien. to see damiens strenght grow from safe haven to suciidde squad fight.

it's also possible victor might have said something that indicates he gave up living. he cant handle the guilt. even thought he was stopped early. he still caused destruction. (i think lu caused even more destruction in their world. victor and ty nuked out empty worlds or worlds filled with monsters)

one reason this scene might be neccesary. is that damien will either energy drain victor and then cast memeory spell. or quickly cast a memory spell on victor (maybe victor is also fighting the best he can, even though he cant do much

or damien just lets victor let out "steam" tire himself out. damien can be a "punching" bag/squishy tou since it doesnt hurt him. thats another way to "drain victors energy" let victor tire himself out. and that way they realize it's best to take victors memories away. vicor doesn't want them to do it if he knows thats what they will do.

IF victor knows what they are going to do. and object. then the art of my ocs mourning vic is mourning how they lost him. wishing they knew vic was allive so they could prevent it. and guilt of taking victors memories away. questioning if it is the right thing. is it selfish of them to not let go of victor? they also do it for the kids too. i bet that victor showed so much of his old self. and maybe they were close to changing his mind too? they want victor to start with clean slate. his whole life has been filled with pain. they can take the pain away by taking his memories (selcouth most likely carries them. he is a deity so i bet he can handle it.it helps him to see victor be happy and get to experience the happy new life after suicide squad)

---------------------------------- I think i realized another reason the fight isn't stopped (i like the idea that maybe mako is the sole reason. he puts on a show.

Another thing that might be happening is that.

MAYBE Belle Reve told lucian that the rookie/new asset will taker over as team leader. And lucian is willing to spare with the person for the right to keep the leader role.

of course its not fair for lu to get attacked from behind. Maybe the people told him to turn around (i keep imagining the "watch out watch out watch out" meme. The team yelling at lu to turn around and lu is extremele cocky

that way if cyrus TRIES to speak up. its possible he tries but mako deafens him out by his yelling and cheering on mic.

the people there could say "lu challenged the rookie to keep the leader role. + i think its clear to everyone that tyrek is toying with lucian because of makos yelling. and i bet this might been the best entertainment they have had in a long time because of mako's sports commentator role.

i keep imagininng when the fight is over. mako sees cyrus behind and has awkward laugh and apologize. he forgot lu is cyrus uncle.

anotther meme i keep imagining. it's girlfriend meme? "who is that girl?" "its your girlfriend"

And instead its victor murmuring "who is that kid" charlotte on mic "its our son" (william helps with allowing people to communicate

i think it can be canon since as suicide squad boss its possible he might say something like that. and its victor who is like proud shocked dad.

it's possible that ty questions if there is any objections (anyone else who wants to challenge the leader spot and the others are "we're good" its possible lu might have spared the others to claim the leader spot. so if he is homeschooled so easily. then they aren't going to bother.

it's also possible lu gained leader role by his actions on missions. he has been in justice league and a lot of teams in general. of course lu def annoys a lot of people as well fdfds so its possible they are happy finally someone kicked lu of his leader throne.

so its funny to imagine mako might have helped tyrek getting approved/respected in a positive manner. with ty being humoristic in response to mako. they see that they don't need to be terrified for their lives if they crack a joke like lu tends to do and worry about ty slicing their throats fsdfd although they know to not hurt team mates. If they hurt one team mate on purpose. the bombs go off on them.

alternate scene i dont think is canon. i lean on lu most likely said no to giving up his spot as leader before the fight starts . or that if cyrus tells them to stop. victor or whoever is on mic asks if lu is willing to let go of leader role. lu because of his adhd and ego. he also doesn't trust tyrek to lead because Tyrek beat him up in the past. might have said no. and that doomed him for the fight to continue. i think tyrek knocked lucian unconcious. to make it satisfying end to the show mako put on + wants to make his son proud happy. maybe neiva takes cyrus away. or tries to take him aay but cyrus is frozen. cyrus might not be able to leave, he wants to make sure lu is okay. i dont want him to ruin the happy goofy mood. so i thinik ill goofily draw him with sausage eyes and frozen. but i think mayeb victor talks to cyrus. and explains what it's about. that lu challenged to keep the leader role and wasn't willing to let go of it. i also like the idea of everyone being distracted by mako. so maybe neiva is the "emotional support" animal dfsdfs to clarify. victor will feel awful for cyrus. as does other safe haven people . Rakel will feel bad for cyrus but she will also repeat the recording over and over again to see lu smacked around (she will see video later(

altnernate scene maybe the people working in the control room are so entertained by Mako and Tyrek. That someone comes up with the idea about making it about the leader role. So they ask if lu is willing to let go of the leader role. if he accepts. the fight ends. if lu says no. the fight continues.

i think i lean on no mattee when the topic of leader comes up (if its canon) cyrus will most likely see that lu doomed himself by not letting go of the leader role. his ego was too big+ distrusful towarsd tyrek. cyrus will still be terrified for lucian. either neiva will support him. or vic explaining they won't let it go too far. this is normal procedure to let team mates spare/compete for something like leade role. especially if both sides are detemined to be the leader-

and i bet there are hired healers to be prepared for emergencies or any type of scenario. so it's no big deal for them to spare or for ty to knock lucian out.

it's also possible that tyrek get the idea to fight for the leader role when he hears mako being so excited. so he mght just said "requesting permission to challenge the leader role" vic: *insert question to lu if he is wiling to step donw* lu: no! (adhd impulsive moment to his ego. and instantly regretting it since then it means he wil fight vic: permission granted ty: *continues to fight lu*

i bet mako wil meet tyrek maybe himself first? he is so excited. and cyrus will probably need encouragement to talk to ty. especially after seeing lu get beaten up. either cyrus gets to talk to lu (victors way of making up for cyrus witnessing the fight and/or victor stays with cyrus while he waits for mako.

or it can be this 1. mako goes to talk to tyrek ( i bet he says cyrus can come too but cyrus says he will wait?? or at least needs a minute to collect himself 2. victor comforts cyrus. and suggests cyrus can talk to lucian (who is probably being healed up) victor and cyrus goes to lu.

I think the last image of mako is probably his response to lu getting knocked unconcious or at the end of the fight. I lean on Lu is knocked out for show sake.

I also keep wondering if mako gets a lil applause by some of the people working there . i can't unsee mako bowing and playing along

OR if he wants to stop the fight. he might say something like "time for the final act" or something, were he is still comedic. but also hint to tyrek to finish it. i lean on he doesnt tell ty to stop. he is too distracted being entertained seeing ty's killer get a beating

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mako cyrus i ned to draw. i think cyrus would laugh at jokes. maybe itis mako reading some fanfic about the teen titants. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpnNcuY4QLk&ab_channel=Rey%F0%9F%8D%81lookitsurei

Alban being punny but the rest of Noctyx has to suffer (particularly Fulgur LMAO) || Animation

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Victor hiring Damien to work in Bele Reve!

Victor Art tab https://toyhou.se/12789441.victor-kowalczyk/26466486.victor-hire-damien-belle-reve

Damien Art Tab https://toyhou.se/6629575.damien-schmidt/26466457.victor-hire-damien-belle-reve

I will try to keep the images the same on their tabs!

I'm so excited for lester interactions in suicide squad! =D =D

This will also be a art tab in the future for Damien, Vic and the others in Suicide Squad. Thre aren't any pictures yet in these tabs below https://toyhou.se/12789441.victor-kowalczyk/26414729.dami-help-vic-ressurecting-ty

https://toyhou.se/6629575.damien-schmidt/26414548.dami-help-vic-ressurecting-ty

Maybe damien can comfort cyrus when tyrek is beating up lu?

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Alex is having the time of her life! fsdsdf

I think this is first time i've seen cyrus annoyed and it wasn't at a villain dsfsdf

I'm very certain that Mako and Alex knows it's nothihng serious when they start dating. Wanted to clarify that Mako wasn't lying about having feelings for her. I can see him be honest like "you want to join me and mess with your brother? >)" and those two dated for their own entertainment. and things got complicated from there.

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https://toyhou.se/6629550.alex-schmidt/23471500.merman-au-concepts

I'm extremely certain that Mako has seen Damien jump from cliffs or jump from the ocean. Damien loves to dive or jump as mako/tigershark (he migth be a mako, but i lean on mako tigershark since I like the idea of bluish mako color with tigershark patterns, and rakel is tigershark.

I got feeling Alex is most likely the same. If she skates because of her dad in human au. Maybe diving from cliffs is what she copies daien in merman au. I have notes about how I can see mako and dami geek out. And I bet mako would geek out at alex too, especially if she is doing these dives/jumps like her dad.

I keep wondering if the schmid plays a role in his mako nickname (he did it as a joke to poke his parents. and then got used to the nickname fdsf s (much to his parents misery)

Talking about parents. I have 2 art of alex with mako's dad (charlotte wasn't canon when i drew it. but i will add her. i wil post them as reminder to draw alex, mako and their siblings are kids.

One image I can't get out of my had is Damien??? (maybe lu, but daimen fits as well) It's funny timing. Since I was looking for ferrets. I'm extremely certain alex has pet ferret/s. Probably ferrests since i hear that is chaotic and alex loves chaos. as does mako.

there was two birds in one stone. I found a ferret inspiraiton+ something i imagined the adults doing to the kids.

what I imagined vic and or ty (maybe ty too, since there is 4 kids) pretending the babies are "guns"

1:01 - 1:14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3e5clqeeEU&ab_channel=TheModernFerret

the adults would stand far enough away so the babies wouldn't hit each other with their powers. or there would be a magic barrier.

.-------------------- This is old art! so i need to fix tyreks face fdsdf supposed to be vic.

I need to add Mako and Payton in there and charlotte!

Rakel and dami are on a date or what mgiht seem like a date. Maybe Damien is showing Rakel the deity trial room. she might have missed out on seeing the trial room since she became pregnant when with the twins the moment dami and rakel were united again.

It's also possible that they went down there with ty, charlotte and vic. Rakel got a lot of protection having 4 deities around her and maybe also wearing a suit dsdff

man! i cant wait to draw deity version of mako and alex. I often wonder "what if mako was a monster like baby" he has to take humanoid shape but I think i lean on he has human form but he takes a more monster like form, since he often wondered who he got his looks from. and victor answes that quesiton when he sees victor later

I think it's funny how alex is used to having people twirled around her finger. and her is mako being troll with her. If he is going down. he is taking her down with him fdsfdsd

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https://toyhou.se/6629575.damien-schmidt/26466457.victor-hire-damien-belle-reve

https://toyhou.se/12789441.victor-kowalczyk/26414729.dami-help-vic-ressurecting-ty

https://toyhou.se/6629575.damien-schmidt/26414548.dami-help-vic-ressurecting-ty

https://toyhou.se/12789441.victor-kowalczyk/26466486.victor-hire-damien-belle-reve More happy hopeful teamwork art! I will work on this art piece more! =D

I also have to remind myself since damien works there. He can go to calm down cyrus when Tyrek is beating up Lu. Reassuring Cyrus that Lu will be fine. Ty won't go too far etc

I also like the idea of victor comforting cyrus too. Maybe victor comforts cyrus while Mako goes to talk to tyrek. And damien takes cyrus to lu? I bet that victor will join in going to lucian?

Main point is: Damien is in suicide squad so he can be there for cyrus if needed. It's just a question if he has arrived to work yet. Since I like the idea of cyrus meeting victor and interacting with him a bit before victor loose his memories. Cyrus is among the people left that victor loves. He has known cyrus since he was born. Cyrus most likely doesn't remember victor. or he might remember interactions but not the face . since he didn't quite remember tyrek. I think ty was the same scenario as victor. since cyrus didn't recognize ty until he saw photo of ty at the party (makos place?)

he might have felt there was a familiarity and i bet he didn't get chance to study tyreks face well??

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Art variations https://toyhou.se/12790474.mako-kowalczyk/26493643.areyoucallingme-cutevariations

I moved some of the art to art variations tab! =D

I can't stop laughing at mako. He is such a fun character to draw. I don't think I've ever experienced a ship being made so fast, and that I've been this quick to make it canon. I prefer to explore things first. Get a feel of it. I had such a good feeling with these two

And both can switch on calling each other things like simps and the rest of the dialogue in these videos! I will post a zoomed in version on alex and mako thread!

I lean on stalemate between them. I can even imagine that even they don't know when they become a pair officially. I think they played games and it kept going on. For example, Alex staying over at mako's place and him or/and him at hers . And gradually they stayed longer and longer. Maybe Mako has his own place? Since then the question doesnt come up with "where do we move" One stayed at the others place and then stopped going back to their parents fdfsd Maybe alex lived with Rakel and damien? especially with all these villains around. Its safer for her to be with her parents or mako. She isn't the scared type. but I can imagine it's less "tedious" for her. And damien has been panicking enough about cyrus fsddf and there was a poisoning attempt from haruna.

The brother to a friend. talked about how him and his fiance. when one asked to be a couple. she said "weren't we already?" it was so casual too. i wish i remembered it better dont think mako or alex asks. I think they just stick together and it's not unless someone asks them. even then they might laugh and not really answer the question to them or ask each other fdsfds or they answer something were their friend/family who asked is still sitten there like "they...didnt really answer my question? did they?? " "was that a yes or no??" trying to figure out what the answer is.

I think there needs to happen something extreme, for one or both to confess. Like that scene i did of cyrus wounded. If that was mako instead of cyrus. I could see mako laugh at alex. Maybe feeling victorious he won the mind game battle. (although alex would probably call out it's still a stalemate depending on his response. She might reveal her card first but he would reveal his own (depending on his response) of course it might seem like he is a gremlin to his last breath. just celebrating a victory dfsfds

I laugh imagine crack of them in their 40s, and neither want to propose because of their games.

https://toyhou.se/6629550.alex-schmidt/23471515.concept-art#42124450 I'm posting thix art, since it's a good ref of alex. and i want to redraw this with mako! >) This is a good example of how Alex is a flirt. And how she got art that is meant as joking interactions. Or we talked about the possiblity of it? And then swapped alex around with other ocs that might have seemed like a better fit

I ALMOST put alex with raiden. because the izzy/raiden interactions. like this: https://paintberri.com/posts/RaidenIsabelle-doodle-dumps-by-SoulSerenade-H1YqLLcmN?source=thumbnail

I kept hinking "this seems like perfect alex behavior. alex pretends to be dumb at times. WHhile izzy i lean on is maybe not the brighest (so there is different between izzy and alex)

And then mako showed up. and it clicked . with payton and cyrus being a pair. it sealed mako and alex even more since they dated to poke cyrus.

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https://toyhou.se/6629550.alex-schmidt/23471515.concept-art#40337882

with the revamp, i often wondered who to replace the girl with glasses.

Now I'm certain it will be mako. He will be laughing like alex is doing.

The rest is payton, ikimi, and raiden!

Payton crashed the place dfdfs

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talking about marriage. I keep seeing the crack of Mako screaming at the tradition of choosing mate in merman au, as that would mean he would need to reveal his cards dfsfdsf

see the crack of mako almost yeeting leader role (if he was chosen as leader ) or mako rebelling at traditions fsdfsddf

reminds me of the meme of something like: mako doesn't follow the law, he is the law

instead it's mako doesn't follow the tradition, he is the tradition

i can also see his parents be like "we all know you are together, now man up" dfs sfdf

or maybe "grow up" is more correct. since i dont think its the fear of rejection to mako. its more about maybe loosing the excitement + main thing. that he loose the game by revealing his cards. -------------------------------

toyhouse victor suicide squad text, what provokes victor into following up with his suicide squad plan Possible Nightstalker arc. ------------------- ART TAB: https://toyhou.se/3667853.cyrus-septimus-schmidt-coyote/25564975.paytonfindoutcyiscoyoteconcept

This is about victor and suicide squad. Possible incident to provoke victor to his suicide squad plans (if he hesitates and start to move away from it) And possible nigthtstalker arc (to give even more fuel to Damiens actions. Especially if he take away ALL nightstalkers powers. (its also to take away their interest in bringing back deity haruna, since she most likely doesnt like humans. in case if they ever doubted she was really gone.

POSSIBLE Ambush art scene. (cyrus pushing mako away? Maybe the ambush was meant to be cyrus and mako for being heroes and a threat to the organization? Or maybe the person wanted cyrus because he is icarus son. and mako happend to be beside cyrus? So it was killing two birds in one stone. Taking Icarus son + taking down another hero. ---------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- On the topic about victors views/motives changing or not: Does Victor hesitate with his plan because of his love for his family and friends? Do they say things that makes him drift from his plan? And then something happens, like someone getting injured. Lu reality warping powers starting? Lu is putting tyrek in danger a lot by not following tyreks leadership. to clarify: tyrek is powerful but he takes time to regain his strenght/get back in prime state. leaving him vulnerable. especially when lu is trolling on missions as payback for tyrek beating him up in suicide squad and taking the leader role.

OR Does victors motivation only get stronger the closer he is to his family and friends? His motivations got strenghtened when tyrek died. The gun is combination of science and magic. Charlotte and victors magic (probably other types of magic too, mainly charlotte and vic, they are magic deities after all? so i bet their powers combined is good enough or the best magic they could get acess to)

Victor feels a duty to make the world safer and equal for everyone.

What I CURRENTLY think might be canon.

I like the idea of victor drifting/hesitating on his plan. Since it's painful for my ocs to get close and attached to him. Especially Charlotte. He will let her in more romanticly if he thinks he is going to abandon his plan. And something happen to spark the fire of making the world safer.

Others who can play a role: Victors followers maybe talking him back to it? Or maybe they start it? Although Vic is extremely careful who he trusts to talk about his plan. And I bet he doesn't tell them yet about hesitating. He can't loose their trust by being indesicive. And its better he keeps it to himself so he doesn't ruin things on either sides it impacts.

I lean more on nightstalker organization, the kids or something in suicide squad happens to trigger him.

------------------ maybe the nightstalker organization hurts cyrus (maybe mako is pushed out of the way by cyrus?) if it's mako who get's hurt. vic would wreck the whole organization up.

IF it's the nightstalker organization who hurts cyrus. maybe cyrus talks victor out of it? i think damien would also lash out? I'm very certain icarus would snap too, because him and rakel gave haruna a warning shot to stay away from their family. And when someone doesnt back away. They will follow up with their threat to fight a threat. i lean on cyrus talks them out of it? IF Damien is about to fight.

I also like the idea of victors mood being "if you won't deal with them, i will" and when damien refuse (maybe he it's because he fears that he will put his family more at risk? he threatens haruna. but it's big difference threatening haruna and her business versus behemoth of nightstalker organization. He feared investigating lu's "murder" out of fear that he would put his family in danger. Tyrek is working in untangling the manipulation he did on damien not being ready to fight the organization. so damien most likely has low self esteeml not believing in himself. But then again. He does appear very confident against haruna.

and if the organization attacks cyrus. He sees that he puts his family in danger by not acting. And when the organization has the city hostage and ends up nuking a city. Damien will realize that, he doesn't just put his family in danger by not fighting the organization. He puts humans in danger. I think damien always knew it. but he didn't think he was ready to handle them? And he hoped that he could give them a rehabiliated deity haruna. A deity that was worthy of worship, and someone who could maybe change their views. Move them away from villain path. Maybe it's also about balance? The world being balanced as it is? In character. Icarus will protect his family (damien doesn't know this) Had cyrus died. I'm certain Icarus would break his rules. Ressurect Cyrus and then show the wrath side.

I often imagined in the nightstalker organization arc. that damien thinks about how victor is right about some people shouldnt have power. clarify: Victor wanted all power gone. while damien meets half way. Seeing it's the best to take the power away (especially to be safe in case if they doubted deity haruna is gone and for some messed up reason wanted her back. being just human. they know there is high risk deity haruna would use them as food source to the superior nighstalkers she could make on her own. it's even possible she doesn't even like shapeshifting nightstalkers. she likes the pure monster ones (if that is canon. then the organization wasnt aware of that fdsfddf i think i lean on she cared for nightstalker species but its the humans she didnt care about + she would never bow to the organization or anyone. they would need to follow her rules/wishes. i got feeling she would destroy those who rebelled. since she didn't like icarus giving humans powers. and i think one of the reasons is that she didn't want humans to try to become gods or to start to rebell. so it's possible she likes monster nightstalker for that reason. obedience. a hivemind of sort.) and if the nightstalker organization ambushed cyrus and mako and that's the last time icarus shows mercy to the organization. Then the organization toss the last chance away by nuking at least one city. especially if its the same city victor lost everything. that traumatized all of safe haven group. damien will snap. he will think about how he should have joined victor in taking all of them down. -------------------- The only thing about the ambush (idk if its canon or not)...is that i keep wondering about IF it should be canon. and if it's canon. When does it happen. Thinking about how damien snaps in organization arc timeline, which is after suicide squad arc... the ambush seems like a fitting suicide squad arc. Maybe it was someone in the nightstalker organization who acted rogue? Haruna has acted rogue by constantly trying to kill schmidt. Haruna starts the nigthstalker arc, by telling the organization that damien has deity harunas soul (hoping that damien will destroy haruna deity soul. she fears that if she tells damien. he won't destroy the soul (which, like i mentioned earlier. is wrong. he was waiting for at least one part of deity haruna soul to change. and he would end the cycle of reincarnations or let her continue to reincarnate if thats what human haruna wanted.)

I like the idea of the ambush happening in the suicide squad arc. Then can see victor's ptsd of loosing friends and family in the past. See how victor snaps/falls apart mentally. If he snaps. I got feeling icarus would have to stop him. Then again. Victor loves his family and friends. So i can't imagine him hurting damien because he loves him. So it might not be necessary for icarus to take over. I got feeling damien will need to hold victor back. Like when a friend is about to fight and you pull them back, and it takes a bit for them to cool down. -------------------------------

If the ambush is in haven redux. It would most likely be when cyrus has won his fight against earth manipulators. It could show the organizaiton (if its the nightstalker organization. I bet that as headcanon they have got some rogue nightstalker enemies. Either out of loyalty to deity haruna or they are furious that their powers are gone. ) is still there. and might be a common enemy for characters to form an alliance.

I almost thought "what if it's when cyrus fight the earth manipulators. But it's wrong timelines. Ty and damien train cyrus (mako probably joins in too in the training). I'm 100 percent certain the earth manipulators cyrus fight is AFTER suicide sqad. To show that he has improved with his ptsd.

the question becomes the ambush scene. it might fit that the ambush is in suicide squad. so that cyrus being a "Punching bag" ends in suicide squad arc? He has a fight with eart manipulators but not ambush. ------------------------------------ https://toyhou.se/12789441.victor-kowalczyk/26411682.suicide-squad-boss-brainstorms

here is tab with screenshots of the motives changing or not, I will fill it out more in the conept tab page. I also need to find victors suicide squad document so I can add the text there. I prefer to copy paste from a document, so I don't accidently loose any information by just typing in toyhouse since i have accidently deleted stuff. Thinking I was on tab. and then copy pasted on a wrong tab.

Here is also WIP new playlist for the trio https://toyhou.se/12789441.victor-kowalczyk/25957131.playlist-vic-charlotte-and-ty

Old playlist link is here: https://toyhou.se/12789441.victor-kowalczyk/13131516.playlist-victy-and-lu

I should take screenshot of the old playlist. since it doesnt appear chaotic in the editing page fdsdf

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I'm very certain this is canon

Mako mood: you go radio silence on me and then take a selfie of you with my sister having fun.

i will take a selfie with your sister then and have fun with her!

in cy's defence. his phone was wrecked and he had no idea what was going on. and with mako doing silly selfies in return. he will assume nothing has happened while he was gone.

i like the idea that mako probably got the comfort he needed from alex (which explains the fast selfie response from mako) So when he gets a chance to poke cyrus by taking a "date or romantic goofy selfie with alex. its a win"

i like the idea of alex comforting mako. that she gets to see the vulnerable side to mako. and i bet that she tried to reach cyrus a lot too when he isolated himself. so she might also be in "gremlin mood" at cyrus fdsdf this is also example of haruna isn't alone in being poked. rip cyrus fsddf he doesnt deserve this though dsfdsf but i think its comedic way of showing "revenge" from alex and mako's side dfdsf + they all make up when they find out the truth about what happened. and cyrus does everything to repair the radio silence.

and i enjoy the goofyness of paytons mood: *happy shipper* saying things like "aren't they the cutest? Are they on a date? asking billion questions happy for them cy interally: *knows this is some gremlin behavior from both of them and it's not a genuine "date" photo. cy mood: why are you two like this??? (fears they will hurt one another) fsddfdfs

i like how cy looks protective over payton fsdff still holding her dfsdf he is probably so distracted with selfie to notice he is still holding payton.

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