Character theft: lunarsnooks/SpectralSerpants

Posted 5 years, 11 days ago (Edited 5 years, 6 days ago) by -📚 Jaxon 📚- MeteorShower

Due to being tired of putting up with this and being yelled at over and over, I am no longer subscribed to this thread so if you have anything I need to add to this please ping or PM me. Thanks!

*sighhhh* Another Update: Immediately after convincing me to edit the post they changed their username to SpectralSerpants and blocked me. That's quite suspicious. Not sure what to believe anymore.

Update: Lunarsnooks has explained the situation and this whole thing seems to have just been a misunderstanding caused by them not keeping track of their characters as effectively as they could and they didn't intentionally steal anything. I have let them know that they need to manage their characters more responsibly.

Screenshot of them explaining the Jolleraptor situation, it seems like a reasonable enough explanation and they seem to genuinely realize their mistake so I'm calling this resolved.

Sorry in advance for the long post and if I did anything wrong lmk bc this is the first time I have experienced something like this first-hand

 but uhh I just got my character Jaxon here in a trade and some of his art credits were outdated and the artists had moved to new accounts and whatnot so I was updating them with the help of a bit of reverse image searching and found this character... which is the same character as Jaxon, but created about a year later by lunarsnooks

I was naturally very worried but seeing as Jaxon was created much earlier and also has verified designer credits from andy/jurassics rather than just the person who uploaded him like the other character, I felt like mine is most likely the original? But I didn't want to just assume/jump to conclusions so I looked into the person who created the other character's designs and immediately noticed that they are a little inconsistent, but ok, my art can be inconsistent at times too, so I began to reverse image search some of the art and things got even more sketchy, with this character popping up here, which, yes it's an adopt and it's possible that they were reselling it I guess, but it's not credited to this person and instead credited to the person who uploaded it much like the copy of Jaxon so... 

There's also this character/art that is credited to but clearly not made by them as the signature leads to this person, who obviously has the same art style.

Not to mention that all of these characters were uploaded on the exact same day so that seems a little weird to me too.

UPDATE: I messaged jurassics about this and he informed me that Jaxon is indeed the original and legitimate character. Which is a relief to me. But that also means that the person who created Arche is quite likely an art/character thief so I would be wary! They don't seem to be very active at the moment but you never know. Just be on the lookout.

Here's the message

UPDATE 2:

The stolen copy of Jaxon has been deleted (unfortunately by an innocent user who got traded the character in a scam, which I feel really bad about). 

I also just realized that this character of theirs is very clearly this Jolleraptor. And there are still lots of their characters I haven't looked into so yea I recommend not trading for any character owned or created by them.

UPDATE 3: Update from pegasys that the Jolleraptor did indeed originally belong to lunarsnooks, however they have traded it and avoided updating the species mods so that they appear to still own the character on the species mastermind. They then reuploaded it to TH much later possibly in an attempt to go under the radar.

MeteorShower

Beefy

Yeah, those seem like the best things to try at the moment. I'll try to find more info by asking around. Thank you so much!

Edit: I have PM'ed the creators of both characters as I feel like they would be most likely to know what's going on. I will update the post once I hear something back but the creator of the other character has not been online for almost a week so it may be a while.

MeteorShower

Got a response from jurassics and added it to the post as an update.

It appears as though there may be some theft going on with lunarsnooks so I would be wary of the user until more info comes up.

sylvari

hey i wanted to point out that they are registered officially on the jolle masterlist as the owner; here

however all art credit is not correct and is not credited to them. it also doesn't make sense as well that they are credited with the ownership on july 9th, 2018 but the character was created literally a month ago. the other jolle that is named nel however shows them previously owning them a year ago. so i believe they are neglecting masterlist updates to then make it look like they still own a character. i'll note the jolle mods about this so they are let known about this behavior!

MeteorShower

pegasys

That definitely makes sense then. I messaged the owner of Nel last night and got a response letting me know that they seem to have forgotten they traded Nel to them but I guess it was more of a conviently "forgetting" than an actual mix up from what you're saying. Definitely sketchy behavior. Thank you for the update!! 

MeteorShower

PlXlEDUST

Great, thank you! I have already let the current owner know what's going on so if they don't take the character down they can report it. 

I really hope this gets resolved as well!! I didn't expect it to turn into this much of a mess. ;;

Lilina

Uh, hey.

Lunarsnooks posted here. If you're blocked by them, I can show you a screenshot to their post if you want.

MeteorShower

Historia

I didn't block them so I can see it but thanks ;;

lunarsnooks

I did message you first. But I didn't get a response and more people came forward with evidence against you before you replied to me. I'm sorry but as it stands you still don't really have any proof that you own all of your characters. I'm not trying to be mean or anything I'm just going by what the evidence seemed to point to. If you do have proof that all of the characters you own and the ones that you have traded to others in the past claiming to have created, then I will be happy to take this post down. I merely put this up as a warning for people to be wary until I did get more information. I'm sorry that you took it as me trying to be a crappy person.

Lilina

Oh, I see. No probs!

MeteorShower

lunarsnooks

I'm not going to just take this down without any evidence, you do realize that right? I mean you could very well be telling the truth but an actual thief would just say they're innocent too so I don't know how you expect me to tell the difference. I really want to help you and listen to you but you just keep sending snappy and passive aggressive responses that aren't helping me resolve this at all. 

And yes my character has been resolved but that doesn't mean I don't care about the other people involved like the person who's Jolleraptor you seem to be using when it's not yours anymore.

Again, I am more than happy to listen to you and hear your side of the story but you just keep repeating yourself screaming "I'm innocent!" and that doesn't help. Give me something to go off of. Please.