Fuber64 - (reposting bc i messed up ur tag) I personally would, especially if you're an adult. Them interacting with you and your content could be a massive danger to your safety in a legal standpoint especially with direct communication (or if you yourself draw / own nsfw pieces or characters) - however I cant make that decision for you! It's ultimately up to you and your own personal boundaries.
Who: KiruSpookz
What: They are a 14 year old in possession of NSFW.
Proofs:
- Their "content warning" page says they dont want anyone under 13 contacting them and that they have NSFW - https://ibb.co/mFszQjM
- Their instagram says 14. If you look at their page, it's clear it has their OCs / art, it lines up with toyhouse + the same username - https://ibb.co/zXTwyKJ
------- (plus its listed on their carrd - https://kiruspookz.carrd.co/ )
- They have NSFW art of their OC that they drew themselves. (screencap link is censored, but pls dont click if you're under 18 regardless) - https://ibb.co/wKf1WSW
I have full page screencaps if needed in case they delete it, but for now I recommend everyone steer clear of this user.
Please note: I don't want to be involved in PSAs or drama, especially against a minor. This is merely a warning for the community as of now, since KiruSpookz is a very active minor in threads around toyhouse; and we basically only have one single admin on the site.
Anything outside of directly posting this PSA will NOT be managed or updated, and this is posted on my throwaway account for that exact reason. If you know of their other social medias or allegations (with proof) against this user, comment them below; But I will not be actively searching for anything more incriminating.
A user named Dracurin also mentioned that the NSFW itself isn't flagged properly when I mentioned this on the general psa thread, so other minors may be able to see it. I'm not sure if this is true or not. I've reported this user and I am awaiting a response, but I have little hope it'll be answered in a timely fashion without a thread here in the service reviews.
updates from this point will be put on the bottom of the thread!
update1:
KiruSpookz's trade / alt account is D0GF4NGZ --
proof:
a user (who shall remain anonymous) messaged me to update this thread immediately with some concerning information regarding the NSFW drawings that were "deleted".
One of the characters who was in the NSFW art, Joji, has two images listed on the trade account.
However, when you look at the actual character's profile, only one images comes up. This means one of the images is private.
By my memory, when looking at the character, Joji only had his animal ref and the NSFW art piece. It was a shared gallery image with Michael. I think I am right, because this can DOUBLY be confirmed when you look at Michael's gallery compared to the images listed:
This gallery listing has 8 images listed in the gallery. Yet when I go to explore the gallery itself, there are 7 actual images in there, not 8.
Notice: I edited the image above to show all the images for space / crunching the thread, combining the total art pieces. I have full page screencaps of both pages individually if people are suspicious of my intentions, to prove there are only 7 images.
This means Kiru possibly never deleted the art. They could have hidden it from the public where it's still attached to a character they're trying to trade. This is a massive risk for anyone who's thinking about trading with this user, and could get you in a LOT of legal trouble if you trade with them. Please be careful.
This PROBABLY is a bug, but it's better safe to list this as a precaution to be safe. One of the affected characters IS being traded, and it's known to have NSFW attached to it, so at the very least this is good information to note if that sort of thing makes you uncomfortable.
2.1. Adult Content and Underage Users
If you are under 18, don't use this site to offer, request, or share adult content.
Don't use this site to offer or request adult content to or from users who you are aware are under the age of 18.
Adult content includes pornographic commissions, as well as pornographic artwork or literature, erotic RP, and detailed sexual headcanons (including character genitalia measurements, genitalia references, detailed sexual behaviour or kink lists, etc.).
Underage users who are found to be using a false birthday to upload or interact with adult material will be banned. There is no penalty if you file a ticket yourself to correct your date of birth, so if you find your birthday is incorrect we recommend filing a ticket to correct it right away. You can check your account's date of birth on the Account Settings Page.
this technically means they can still get into trouble for having nsfw content period? I'm trying to understand what you're getting at above user.
edit: I can agree that comment is making me very uneasy.
edit 2: please don't come at people with the "hun" it's unnecessary and rude.
I hate to derail the conversation, but this is an extremely important discussion to have to educate DANIarts because they are misinformed.
"Now, if you are unaware of the minors age and send them NSFW with consent, no, you can't get into legal trouble. You only can if you're aware of their age or send NSFW without consent." - This is extremely criminally misinformed.
All that matters for you to be found guilty is how old they were at the time of the offense. Not how old you thought they were or how old they told you they were, but how old they actually were. This is very debatable depending state-to-state age of consent laws, and you'll have to search it up depending on your individual residency, but regardless it is better safe than sorry. Not to mention age of consent doesn't prohibit legal actions from the parent's guardians, a lawsuit, and potential jailtime and/or sex offender registration for life even if you didn't know their age.
This is also true when it comes to age gaps between people who are 16 & 18 ------ 16 & 19 --------- 17 & 19 -------- Hell, even 17 and 18. There are several cases that can be found where criminal charges have been brought upon these age gaps.
Onto the next point: While technically minors CAN draw NSFW by law (because they arent really punished for creating it) is it really appropriate for them to do so, even in private? I don't really know why thats appropriate to even mention here tbh. I'm getting weird vibes from this comment.
I think dani meant keeping nsfw art privately on your computer, not uploading it as a private image to toyhou,se? Some clarification would be good on that part.
DANIarts - the second comment on the thread clarified a little, but it also further set in the weird vibes. I don't understand why you think it's appropriate to even mention that to the minors viewing this thread / encourage that they consume NSFW as long as they "don't share it". As an adult, even if you did it as a child, you shouldn't be encouraging that. Your comment comes off as such even if you didn't intend for it to, and it's really uncomfortable for me. There's other behavior I seen off-site thats concerning me tying into this as well but it's derailing this entire beware and conversation, so I'm NOT going to delve into it unless you wanna take it to DM's or a comment somewhere else.
However, my final statement on this (and I PLEASE ask that we drop this soon before it goes into an entire spiel of in-fighting, I'm only mentioning this for your own self-reflection) --
I don't know if I'm the only one feeling this way, but it's just.. reaaaaaaally not the hot take you think it is imo. They shouldn't be consuming or creating it to begin with, legal or not.
I don't agree with the "well, I did it as a child, we all did it as one!" mentality. The reasons we DID it was because most of us didnt have others online who educated us. I knew it was wrong. I bet you did too. We all as minors knew it was wrong to draw and consume stuff like that. Every time when I was a minor drawing or consuming NSFW, I always consciously knew that it wasn't right, but I didn't understand the gravity of how it endangered adults / shrugged it off.
People who are 22+ probably grew up in a time where the internet more than likely first came out / social media was fresh, and adults didnt really have a filter / boundary with children online. We should be setting a better example for minors especially as the laws begin to crack down harder on the content. Please don't openly encourage them to create content like that to begin with.
edit: also, the "I'm not saying they should, I'm just stating some facts, is that wrong of me to do so?" is very passive aggressive imo. It IS wrong of you to state facts when not only do you have many of the facts wrong, but they're littered with odd opinions / shrugging off the dangers of children being in NSFW spaces (even without posting) and softly encouraging them that "its not illegal to make or consume privately so its fine if you don't post it!" vibe. Three people in this thread have edited their comments or made new comments to express that your comment was weird vibes, and I hope you take this as a learning experience to self reflect on your boundaries as an adult.