PSA-Artist Beware: Guro-boy/Gintoki-kinnie

Posted 6 years, 22 days ago (Edited 1 year, 22 days ago) by Momma-Lucifer

https://artists-beware.livejournal.com/994302.html

WHO: Guro-Boy

https://guro-boy.deviantart.com/

https://josuke-hiigashikata.tumblr.com/ (Abandoned)
New: https://gyro-joestar.tumblr.com/ 

https://twitter.com/j0hnny_joestar(Abandoned)
New: https://twitter.com/gyr0zeppeli

http://www.furaffinity.net/user/vitreoushumor

WHERE: https://toyhou.se/guro-boy (Deactivated account)

https://refsheet.net/guroboy (Still trying to trade their dainty) Moved to https://refsheet.net/Wormwood (nsfw art featured here: http://archive.is/mP8Op )


New accounts: https://www.furaffinity.net/user/gintoki./

https://toyhou.se/Gintoki-kinnie

https://refsheet.net/Gintoki


Still very active on Gintoki-kinnie, and joining several CS groups. Please be extremely cautious when dealing with them. 


Was also discovered he still owns 2 longthings, despite being banned from the species/community. 

https://sta.sh/214d2x3ndq2?edit=1



WHAT: 2 longthings (closed species by Glidertoo)

 

WHEN: Jan 31st, 2018 

EXPLAIN: I was approached by Guro-boy when I placed a thread seeking Longthings to buy. They messaged me with two that they were selling, one at 150$ and the other at 100$. I thought this was fine and wanted to buy them both. They originally asked me to send as Friends and family, but I said I was uncomfortable with that and offered to pay the fees for them. They sent me an invoice, which I was comfortable with because invoices are more secure. They gave me the image files and all was fine after. About a month in, I was contacted by a user, who I won’t mention, stating that their longthing looked eerily similar to one of mine. I agreed and sent Glider a note about it. (I later learned Glider isn’t as active where I contacted them, so that’s not an issue). I then contacted Guro and they stated it was a custom. I was still very wary, but I accepted it and just kept things quiet while I did some research. Things got busy, IRL, so I dropped the thing to take care of my life.

Glider posted a journal to FA today, April 11th, 2018. And stated there was a tracing issue. I asked in the thread, for someone to note me the name of the user. I was noted, by SEVERAL people, that it was guro-boy. This prompted me to message glider, who was active on the site, for confirmation. They confirmed my suspicions and stated I was sold two altered long things.

 

As of currently, I have filed a dispute asking for them to VERIFY the legitimacy of these longthings, but I will be escalating it to an immediate claim.

 

PROOF:

Glider’s journal: https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/8690922 (http://archive.is/utgJN)

The Two longthings I was sold: https://sta.sh/21sds6or442j?edit=1

Conversation for original purchase: https://sta.sh/017r9nhrw0el

Paypal proof: https://sta.sh/0amkxon9kd9

Second PM asking about legitimacy: https://sta.sh/01jzv5os7nd5

PM to glider: https://sta.sh/01x7uafbrotp

Folder with proofs: https://sta.sh/210pqzzkxepp?edit=1

 

Update: They have contacted me via email, and offered a refund on a payment plan after I escalated the dispute to a claim.  https://sta.sh/01kh1arkw3ms 
My reply and theirs: https://sta.sh/022fhs2g4eou

They have NOT refunded me anything yet. Despite this conversation happening this morning

Update 4/21/2018: They have contacted me via email and offered me the partial refund via. Together, we have decided that I will deny the refund so the case can be reviewed and the date extended in order to get a full refund of the 258$. I felt this was the best course of action, since the date they originally requested for the second payment was so close.

Updated: PayPal closed the case, not in my favor, and now I’m out the 258$. :,) So there’s nothing I can do, except hope that Guro actual refunds me, since I have no ground to stand on anymore. Update (5/1/2018): Paypal has closed the case, again, against my favor. I contacted Guro boy. They replied saying they needed to check if their bank wouldn't frekk out. Then proceed to tell me that they WOULD refund it. Here we are. Almost a week past the actual date they said they'd have the full amount. Nothing. I'm taking this as a loss. I am going to see if my bank will do anything. I am doubtful, but I can at least hope.
https://sta.sh/0bnt5rwp6b2 
https://sta.sh/0wzpx7cx0gc

5/19/2018 My bank has denied the claim to reverse the charge. Their reason is that paypal stated that I authorized the transaction. They found the payment to be valid. So, I've filed a complaint with the BBB, but at this point, there's nothing I can do.
https://sta.sh/0k1iahz5sle 
https://sta.sh/018o63e5htu8 (BBB case)

Guro has been seen trying to commission Glider, despite not refunding me the amount. https://prnt.sc/jmayyx (Archive link: http://archive.is/ynH7z )


5/26/2018: It looks like Guro-boy has migrated to making off-brands of the closed species he was banned from. https://toyhou.se/~forums/5867.service-reviews/63052.psa-artist-beware-guro-boy-updated-5-24-?page=8#post-1493872 
http://archive.is/uruXC 
Second update: Guro has now blocked me from his social media platforms, which leaves me no way to contact him. It confirms that he was the one that made these fake longthings, and not this "darlingdoq" account he claimed sold him these. https://sta.sh/0hdfdn9kpor

Third update:

And ladies and gents, I have payment part 1 of 2 from Guro-boy.
https://sta.sh/014i8wjqluw5 
https://sta.sh/0gbcxkc9wk

Update (6/2): Guro boy has been caught tracing art from other artists and selling them as commissions. http://bibbity-babbity.tumblr.com/post/174478869145/josuke-hiigashikata-quick-question-would-you ( http://archive.is/MntOu)

Update 6/3: New accounts added to the list of accounts.
Artist beware from traced art: http://bibbity-babbity.tumblr.com/post/174477990110/guro-boy-vitreoushumor-art-theftbootlegging


**Update 11/3/21: New accounts added to the beware



If anyone is interested in retweeting the AB post on twitter: https://twitter.com/Artists_Beware/status/994804199920754688

** 6/20/2018: A rep from paypal called me today. She resolved my claim and issued a credit for thew full 258$ to my account. It turns out, there was a large misunderstanding on paypal's part and my correct channel through the BBB resolved this. I issued a refund to Guro-boy for the 125$ they gave me. I am not interested in keeping money that is not mine. I am considering this resolved.

Vespisia

rikki

Wow that is insane and extremely ballsy......xD'''''''''' Glider should probably not accept any work from them, if not outright block them instead.

Disdain

I just saw the update to this and, uh.. what the actual fuck.

Momma-Lucifer

https://artists-beware.livejournal.com/994302.html

Official Beware here, ladies and gents.

Vespisia

How's your BBB case going?

Momma-Lucifer

Vespisia The BBB reviewed it and forwarded it to paypal, paypal hasn't responded, but I worded it more strongly this time, and even copied and pasted paypal's buyer agreement that covers my transaction. https://sta.sh/018o63e5htu8

rikki Thank you, I would have never noticed. They have not replied to any of my emails. Commenting like that was probably tasteless, but they refuse to contact me. Edit: I've also added your link information and a screencap to this beware. Thank you!

Vespisia

Good good, strong wording will hopefully help. Your post sounds really good and professional, it's excellently written and succinct. I REALLY HOPE YOU GET A GOOD RESULT THIS TIME QQQQQQ T_T

Momma-Lucifer

Vespisia Thank you. It's nearly the same response I've given Paypal at least a dozen times, but as was mentioned earlier; they are reading "custom" ad dismissing the case entirely.

rikki I don't have a large following, but I have retweeted the AB post here: https://twitter.com/Artists_Beware/status/994804199920754688 I think I'm going to @ them on twitter.

spoonfed

@MonsterInsideMe

Thank you for pinging me!  It reminded me I need to block the name on my FA account :/  I really don't know where people get off thinking they can do this.

Taiyaki

I really do hope you can get your refund! 

Also I know the refsheet link has a lot of NSFW, you might wanna put that off to the side somewhere

Momma-Lucifer

Taiyaki They had seemingly disabled their refsheet account.

Taiyaki

Oh wow! I just took a peek on it yesterday. My bad.