Hi!
Since the original Unpopular Opinion Thread is locked (it turned into a shit-show reeeaaal fast) , I've gotten permission to remake it.
I've decided to use the original rules for the thread since those were gucci
Edit: I didn't mean to post ic aaaaaaaa
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the sentiment that closed species are part of capitalism in itself is true; but its also a way that independent artists make a living so comparing them to cooperations that are quite literally killing people is a very harmful mindset and i refuse to blame people who are forced to partake in this system rather than the people behind the actual destruction. commie signing out
yes i agree on the hoarding thing
i dont see a problem as long as they arent say, mass-claiming freebie designs
i feel like anthro artists don't get enough representation on toyhouse,,,, like honestly human/oid artists are fantastic but it's just so rare to see anthro artists here nowadays. as one myself it's kind of trippy
Dunno if it's unpopular, but I don't see the problem of selling an adopted character for more than you bought it if you add your own art to the character and/or a well-written bio, personality etch. that you sell along with them. Time has been spent on that, and I feel like those things still add value to the character, and it is right to price them a bit higher if they're worth more than the original price.
A corollary to ChosenUndeaad, artists, LEARN WHAT A LICENSING AGREEMENT IS, LEARN HOW THEY WORK, and start USING THEM IN THEIR LEGAL SENSE.
If I buy your Very Popular Adoptable(TM) and there’s just a verbal “Dun sell it for more than I sold it to you! WAAAH!” on your sales page/site, yes we CAN sell it for more than you sold it because you didn’t have a LICENSING AGREEMENT UP.
For your sake, learn about them and use them.
To play devil artist’s advocate, though... If someone breaks an artist rule of yours but you DIDN’T have a legal licensing agreement up, you may have no LEGAL recourse against that person but DEFINITELY make a “Banned Buyer” list and add them to that list.
It may be LEGAL to flip adoptables for higher prices but if the creator asked you NOT TO, it’s kinda dickish to do it anyway.
And for those select few creators out there who ARE deliberate twits, just because you think it sounds more expensive and cool to tell a buyer he now OWNS the art he bought from you, but really, he needs to follow your petty rules, then you deserve whatever vexatious nonsense you get for this stupid thinking, you twit.
TL;DR Licensing agreement means you can enforce your art “rules”. NO licensing agreement means you CAN’T. DELIBERATELY choosing no licensing agreement but then throwing a fit when your art “rules” are broken makes you a petty twit.
On the topic of reselling characters
I seriously don’t care if I trade one of my characters or sell them and then the new owner goes and does whatever
It doesn’t belong to me anymore, so it’s none of my business about what they do unless I say something specific beforehand
I absolutely cannot stand people who bash others for their OC choices. Yes, they might be unoriginal or you might not like them. So what? Why whine about other peoples‘ OC choices when it‘s none of y‘alls business? Let people live gdi. For example, If I want to make a self insert that‘s overpowered and absolutely bonkers, then it‘s my choice.
I actually think that colorpicking from other people’s art is fine as long as it’s not used for art involved in money transactions like commissions. For beginner and intermediate artists, this can help them grasp color theory and color profiles in general that just trying to eyeball the colors alone can’t teach you. It’s something I’ve used myself to teach myself how to use prettier, brighter colors and learn from those better than me, which helped me a lot more than just trying to learn how to make the colors pretty on my own, because most of the time my art just looked grey af and washed out. If you colorpick from other art or just photos in general, I’ve found that it helps to teach you to be bolder with colors and shadows and gives artists (especially less experienced artists) more confidence with using colors that they otherwise would not have had.
But it’s not a crutch you should always fall back on to make art pretty, because then you have no idea how to pick colors on your own, and as you colorpick more and more from other artists it becomes super obvious. I’ve come across an artist before whose art was really obviously color picked from another famous artist I know, and not just the colors themselves, but the coloring techniques as well. Colorpick if you want to learn how other artists use colors, not because you want more clout or you’re too lazy to go through the trouble of finding the right colors.
art style theft isn’t real and never has been
like if someone’s art style had like long skinny legs and then someone else drew something with skinny legs it isn’t “theft“ ?? like you can’t just up and claim an art style element as your own and then criticize anyone who SLIGHTLY has the same features in their style too, even if they did reference off of the original person’s style. frankly, people thinking “art style theft” is an actual thing REALLY gets on my nerves
slightly related, you can’t just claim a generic design element of a character as your own and then witchhunt everyone who “””copied””” your character.
for example, person A made a Warrior Cats OC with white fur, brown stripes along the back and heterochromia. does this person now own ALL warrior cat characters with white fur, brown stripes and heterochromia? no, because these are all just design elements and they don’t belong to anyone. THOUSANDS of OCs have white fur, brown stripes and heterochromia.
and i’m not trying to back up character theft, but actually straight up stealing a character and making one using certain design elements that the other one has are very, VERY different things.
thanks for coming to my TED talk
cityserval I ran into this randomly while YouTube surfing and it fits what you're talking about. (It's Pkrussl if you know who that is and feel some way about him. I have little clue who he is and I don't support or hate the guy. This just popped up in my random uploads feed and seemed relevant to post here.)