[UPDATE 2/11/2022] PSA on Komugitsune/DemonMadness

Posted 3 years, 12 days ago (Edited 2 years, 2 months ago) by huathorne
UPDATE 2/11/2022: They are also found under the name demonmadness on Twitter, Esty, and a newer account on Twitch

UPDATE 1/9/2022: Aug/Komugitsune has returned under the name demonmadness (Commission Site, Patreon, & Teepublic), crimsonzroses (Twitch), and corgiathlon (Instagram). These are provided to aid in pursuing owed items and as a further record to continue to hold Aug accountable for his actions. Do not harass him as that would help no one.

UPDATE REGARDING 1. Gumroad refunds. 2. Aug engaging in upselling and potential scamming. Updates added at the bottom!

This is a letter to the members of Northern Ruins who have been thrown headfirst into sudden chaos. This is for the members who so recently purchased slots and items, for the members who were awaiting Valentines batch adopts, for the Guest Artists left without answers and some with half finished adopts, and even the unwitting Moderators who have since discussed things with all parties involved and have since made their own decisions in regards to things.

This is here in case the original letter is taken down from Northern Ruins.

Before delving into the details, keep several things in mind.

This all happened because two staff members, Min and Yolk, quit after not being allowed to discuss the idea of compensation for hundreds of hours of work in just the past few months. We just quit after leaving behind a notice of resignation with grievances in only the mod server. The goal was never to hurt Northern Ruins because despite all this, we still dearly loved it and, above all, its community. Northern Ruins contained so many friends that we would not want to hurt just because we were quitting. The only one who had the power to delete the servers was Aug despite what he has been relaying to people. And keep in mind, he has yet to release a comprehensive statement just explaining things to the people caught in the crossfire of his decisions.

Also note, Aug has not made any attempt to directly contact Min nor Yolk after quitting. Min has not been available for contact since the stress of the situation has landed them in the ER so lack of contact with Min might be excusable. However, Yolk has always been open to civil conversation and has told such to each and every messenger Aug has sent his way. Almost every messenger seemed to also think that Min and Yolk were at some fault for the servers being taken down or for the supposed destruction of Northern Ruins. As said previously, we merely quit because of lack of compensation. The only thing that was directly changed was that Min repossessed unpaid decorative code that they wrote and are the rightful owner of. Min left a lot of the code they themselves paid for along with other things on the site despite everything to make sure the site stayed perfectly functional with the database intact.

All destructive actions are by Aug’s hand only.

Plus, it was by his suggestion Yolk quit initially and Min followed soon after.

While Aug will repeatedly say he would have given compensation if he had known, he was the one who did not even want to discuss it in the first place. That is an undeniable fact. The issue is not a matter of money but rather a matter of fairness, transparency, and attitude. Aug does not entertain the idea of compensation in a transparent manner but instead opts to try to push it off till later. Compensation desired wasn’t even necessarily monetary but since he did not even want to discuss it, he would not have known. Min, who spent hundreds of dollars out of pocket, deserves monetary compensation especially considering their personal situation that Aug is completely aware of. Yolk did not want monetary compensation but rather wanted pets, items, and/or slots that were higher than common. But, again, Aug did not want to discuss compensation and therefore would not have known by his own choice. Note, previous staff-wide compensation was a single common slot. The only scaled compensation was a single Aspirith slot for Min. Compensation was not repeated nor otherwise scaled per work time. ONLY slots for compensation is a slap in the face since it requires work to truly get the benefit. Those bogged down by work by Northern Ruins or otherwise or even personal life would not really get any benefit from the slots at all. He also claims that the privilege to do adopts when he chooses to do them is compensation ignoring the fact that creating the adopts in itself is work. The price of an adopt pays for the adopt’s creation. It does not pay for the cost of the assets done. It does not pay for the cost of the site. It does not pay for the time spent on work for Northern Ruins outside of the adopt.

But, these words are nothing without the evidence to back them up. Aug, we know you keep telling people your version of the truth. So, we will tell our truth with the evidence to back it up.

If you wish to know the truth behind the issue at hand, this link will take you there.

If any questions come up, feel free to comment on the linked sheet. Since some of the images may be small, it is recommended to view it in presentation format. Imgur links will be added later to ease reading. For the sake of not overwhelming people, please do not DM any party involved! Additionally, please do not harass Aug. Even if we have issues with him, we do not want to cause him unneeded trouble in that regard. To be transparent, this letter and the attached compilation of evidence have been created and curated by Yolk. In order to ease the reading process, I have been referring to myself in third person. Min has had a limited amount of input regarding this because they have been hospitalized and are still ongoing treatment. Further details regarding their personal health will not be given at this time to respect their privacy.

Thank you for your time in reading this.

〔Edit 9-May-2021〕

Steve from Gumroad finally learns to read.

"If you haven't gotten your refund yet, you purchased through Gumroad, and you are being ghosted or dismissed by Komugitsune, please email [email protected] directly to get your refunds. They will process the refunds for you."

Gumroad is now giving out refunds!

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! ! ! ONGOING BREAKING OF TOS AND POTENTIAL SCAMMING ! ! !

Aug is currently upselling several designs despite not adding to their value via commissioned work or through any other valid means.

Upselling Eeray

Upselling Diab

NotDamien's Statement on Sell Value of Designs

SnorkMaiden's Statement on Sell Value of Designs

Upselling Traded Design

Heelies's Statement on Sell Value of Designs

Upselling Gifted Design

If you wish to keep track of what he is attempting to sell and to see if anything might have inflated sell values, the link to his trade/sell thread is below. If you find something that may have inflated value, please report it and make a comment on his thread about it so more people can know. If you wish to, you can also comment here and I will add it to the list here.

Komugitsune's Trade/Sale Thread

EDIT: Image Transcription of Slides

PDF Version of Slide (Note: this will not be updated as fast but will be updated alongside the original.)

〔Edit 3-May-2021〕:

I'm adding this edit here since Aug decided, in a relatively confusing move, to lie blatantly on his site about the situation. Considering that, the following links will be added for ease of access to emphasize what he has had a direct hand in. This has gone beyond an issue concerning former staff since it has deeply affected many people unrelated to the original grievances I wrote. I sincerely hope this will help open more eyes to the issue.

I will preface with two important links.

Evidence submission form

This form is to collect formal evidence against komugitsune (Aug). As of right now, we are prioritizing gathering evidence of financial malpractice in order to strengthen cases against him in PayPal and Gumroad. However, if you have evidence of him doing any unsavory acts, we welcome that as well.

Please share this twitter link on the issue.

I have been informed that the issue is not well known outside of TH so it would be wonderful if you can spread the word outside.

Proof that Aug threatened Min and I with police action as well as that Red and Damien did not lie about it.

Please note for posterity that this was done in a midst of a spike in anti-Asian crime. Both Min and I are Asian. Threats of police, in itself, is not a joke. But threatening it in this climate is horrendous especially considering he knows both of our addresses as well as the addresses of many others.

Min's statements against Aug's allegations

Persistent lack of communication

I would like to note that Aug has still never attempted to directly contact me and has blocked me everywhere instead.

Cutting off communication avenues

It has been documented that Rook has been aiding with refunds as well as trying to be an avenue of communication between Aug and everyone else since he refuses to communicate directly. Since they have been cut off, Aug has effectively decided he would rather not face the allegations against him. Aug seems to have been using them as a scapegoat for failed refunds.

Proof of selling traced Picrew design

He sold this to me when we were still friends and he had the picrew image hidden.

More traced art

Chargeback issues as well as Aug's indecision regarding NR

I don't know why Aug doesn't seem to be settled on what will happen to NR. But I will note his waffling on it seems to correlate with his waffling on refunds.

Proof Aug said despeciesing applies to Official designs

Aug lying about refund issues

I, and others, have experienced this. Aug has repeatedly been trying to lie on paypal about "nobody" trying to communicate with him. He's blocked most people seeking refunds so the only avenue of communication is PayPal where he, again, seems adamant on lying.

Aug blocking those requesting refunds

It should be noted this wasn't a chargeback but a formal request for a refund. Basically, chargebacks seem to be the only valid avenue at this point.

batalitedish

(Please tell me to delete if I'm clogging!)

It took me a while to find this thread because, honestly, I kept overlooking it when reading and rereading Yolk's statement. While I was not directly affected by Aug's actions the way the mod team and multiple other members were, I just wanted to add in that I wholeheartedly believe everything stated to be true - stomach twistingly so. To Min and Yolk, who bore the brunt of both his abuse as an admin and subsequent attempts at character assassination, I continue to express my deepest apologies that this went on for so long. And to the rest of the mod team, my words can do little to salve it, but I'm sorry that you were also tricked, manipulated, and fooled by a man so many others have rightfully pointed out is in the end nothing more than a con artist. I loved being a part of northernruins for the short duration I was active, and enjoyed supporting many fantastic artists who deserved better than to be part of Aug's money-churning operation. Because the fact is that yes, northernruins was, for all the amazing work Min, Yolk, and so many others put in both as staff and as part of the community, cobbled together from stolen ideas, art, and cultures. And, above all else, stolen labor from those who deserved to be fairly compensated for working what would be a full job if not for his refusal to even think about compensation.

Even now, it sickens me knowing how I supported him, and his patreon - a patreon which, mind you, was billed as being the official northernruins patreon while all the profits went only to Aug. Knowing what I do now, though, it's hardly a surprise; he's ​particularly gifted at omission based manipulation: the racefaking, letting people assume he was east asian based on his brand alone. The assumption that the mod team was being compensated, or at least the ones who weren't volunteers. The question dodging. But in my mind, all of that pales in comparison to how he was willing to - or at least THREATENED to - call the police on Min and Yolk at a time when anti-asian hate crime is at a high. Just remembering it makes my blood boil. Not to mention the toll the stress put on Min's health, as well as the effects on everyone who was forced to overwork over the past few years for an admin who'd rather spend (at one point) more than two month's patreon money on gacha games instead of paying his staff.

As far as his racism, well, let me preface by saying that I'm white, and therefore was never affected by it myself. However, the fact that he - as mentioned above - endagered the asian staff while profiting off of specifically asian and indegenous cultures (using them for worldbuilding fodder, the designs he supposedly "made," and an overall false and performative sense of "diversity" on his part with his ocs) is sickening. Also sickening was his insistence that racism would not be tolerated while simultanesouly shutting down black memeber's concern with racist statements made in-chat. And instead of adressing it, he took a bland and insensitive "no fighting" approach then brushed it under the rug with every other concern anyone tried to bring up to him. He was also guilty of simultaneously (as stated by multiple members and staff) playing his own disability card to gain sympathy and get subjects dropped while making ableist comments about other members' disabilities; a hypocristy that flavors many of his acts.

I feel like I'm dragging on, and everything I've said here rounds back to what others have already and extensively covered. Just know that, for the former members and mods of northernruins, I'm happy to support you in your future endeavors, and sorry for the oppurtunities you might have missed sinking so much time into an arpg standing on rotten roots. If there any designers whose designs I've purchased that would rather handle the despeciesing of their designs personally, I am happy to commission you once you've had time to recover. Any others, I will be changing up myself. While I did have one myo slot left in northernruins (aspirith), I will not be seeking a refund at this time - I have a day job, and I would prefer that others get refunded first, if Aug does in fact issue refunds.

Sorry for rambling on so much! - Bat

dirtriot

Not to downplay the seriousness of their behaviour with people in the art community in the thread so far, but I'm pretty concerned that like it hasn't become a bigger issue that this person is dating people who are underaged or barely legal, and have a track record of it?

purrsuasively

I'm sorry, what is/was Northern Ruins? I'm so out of the loop here

huathorne

dirtriot Personally, I am not sure what else can be added on my end but you are completely right that it should be a bigger issue. I think the reason why it may not have been focused on currently is that people are bringing forward mainly personal testimonies. However, that should not downplay the fact that Aug has evidence of engaging in underage dating.

purrsuasively Northern Ruins was an ARPG centered originally around the closed species known as Ordivirns by komugitsune/Aug. Other closed species were Tuvi, Nimburreid, and Aspirith also by komugitsune/Aug. While he made the species and gave some concepts for the ARPG, most of the work for the ARPG was derived with no (or very little) compensation from the mods (details in slides).

huathorne

Ne-wt Thank you for showing this!

purrsuasively

fortuneyolk thank you so much for explaining! I haven't been active in the art community much lately and I remember komugitsune as wyvernbites. gonna look more into this now for sure 

Ne-wt I was so confused at first bc I didn't know what Northern Ruins was and absolutely nothing showed up on-site. :( Were they just trying to avoid accountability here?

Kuruna

dirtriot I'm uncertain as what to say irt: Aug dating people who are so much younger than him, but I will say that he did a very good job at convincing us mods that his exes were always in the wrong. I remember being genuinely convinced that the ex he supposedly had a restraining order against must've been someone horrifically abusive, as I even remember Aug wanting to do an Northern Ruins event in celebration of "escaping" that relationship. Knowing what I do now paints things in a very different light.


Heelies

Hi Heels here! I’m just here to let people know if they received a Ordivirn that I designed they’re free to despecies it! You may edit my art but please let me know beforehand! I was never really active after I started getting more hours at my irl job but I still felt as the pressure of the group, especially how much work everyone puts in. Because of that I would keep on apologizing to Aug I wasn’t doing enough or anything at all due to my irl life and everything going on in it. Thankfully I wasn’t in a bad state as Min or Yolk was but I put my health and mental well-being at risk when I took it upon myself to help him out with this “miscommunication” which it was never and it was far bigger than I expected. I was on a social media hiatus for a good month and you can imagine my shock when everything burst into flames, I just got back man! Most of this just comes to show not him as a leader of NR but as a person as well.

Aside from my own experience as a mod in NR, I looked up to him both as a person and a artist. He betrayed the mods by lying to us and fabricated so many things about others. Slandering even his own friends to get a more dramatic side for his story. Even threaten to press charges and call the cops on his “precious” friends. He hurt so many people I care about, the mod team he creates became my found family. The fact that he tried to use his disability card when the entire mod team, in fact, are disabled in some form as well is ironic.

Sorry if I sound rambling, I’m very overwhelmed with everything life is tossing at me now so hopefully it make some sense at least! And please if you can drop Min or Yolk a Kofi! They deserve it! q _ q

purrsuasively

Heelies It is so upsetting to hear that! I'm sorry you and all the other mods had to put up with all this. I didn't know any of this was going on until today :<

He sounds extremely manipulative and abusive and I'm glad you & other mods are ok!