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Cydric has been banned from my HQ Random thread
Hopefully the other threads will also notice this and take the proper precautions.
It is a shame though
First and foremost let me post this: This is not a witch hunt, please do not use this as a means to harass this person.
WHO: Cydric/Torab TH / Cydric DA
Why this PSA: They have been posting on DA and on TH selling/trading adopts they have gotten for free. Most of them from threads that clearly state this is not allowed, as well as the individual that has gifted them, stating this is not allowed.
One of their journals on DA selling/trading ( This is Sami the one they where trying to sell/trade in the first link - Sami /Received from the gift thread/ another ( I was not however able to get a screen shot of the adopt before it was deleted off th )
Their Bulletin on TH Shows which tags are up for offers ( Next links are all the adopts in the tag listed for sale/trade- sorry about the bottom bit cut off , I wanted to make sure that the UFT tag could still be seen ) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
Some links to characters in the tag that clearly state no selling/trading ( I only took a few shots as there where many )
1 2 3 ( sami link again ) 4 ( Clearly states no selling/trading )
Them asking for freebies in their own thread: Thread
1 2 3 4 ( was at the bottom of link 3 ) 5 6 Still looking as of five days ago- Some of the characters listed in this thread are also in the UFT tag currently as well
They where confronted about this on DA , and while the message was read, they did not respond to it, but they promptly deleted all evidence on DA. They have, however left their TH Bulletin up, as of current.
Message Sent to them / Showing it was read
One of the places they go to for adopts: Gift a character to the user above! [HQ Random] - Rule line #4 clearly states no selling or trading of designs gained from that thread
Showing that they do post there
Edit 10/24/18
While Cydric has removed most of the UFT tags that where screen capped originally, they have others that they have posted up under the UFT/OTA tag that are mostly free adopts from DA
In their gallery / On DA where it clearly states no selling
In their gallery / On Da / Creators Response to no selling for points/cash
Other Characters still in the UFT/OTA tag That where gained from freebie threads/gift above threads
Edit 10/26/18
It was brought to my attention that the majority of the adopts in question where removed from Cydric's account and moved to another account named seafoamStars , there is some concern with the join dates that this may be a secondary account, as of now that is not certain , so please, once again do not harass either account
He did respond to one artist saying he would take the adopt out of his OTA/UFT folder, and then for some reason that makes no sense to me, tried sending the adopt in question to me. 1 I have not accepted the request. I spoke with the artist about this, and she thinks it may be because she decided to take the adopt back.
If anyone has any other screenshots of them selling/trading free adopts or those that clearly state not to, please message me so I may add them up.
Or if I need to add anything at all please. First time making a PSA - Please also know if I need to change anything to fit properly into the rules and guidelines of the PSA, I am doing my best. But if I miss something please let me know. Thank you .
Edit 1/21/19
Proof /new information was given that shows that Torab is Cydric, and is still continuing to sell adopts recieved for free.
Pokefarm account under the name cydric, showing characters that link to Torab on TH
The one named Silkie on that page
The one named Ja'Mal on that page
New pokefarm account selling the free adopts Here
Clicking the link provided leads you back to Torab Here
Again this is not a witch hunt, so please do not harass them. This is being made because it isn't fair to those that gave characters in good faith that the rules of thread/previous owners/ creators would be followed,if they do finally get back in contact with me, I will be editing this with that, to show that they are trying to amend things, as that would be preferred.
-kazan- The one i was referring to was the Random thread that is any quality ^^; I already know you have for yours. ^^ But the other one, the owner hadnt read the message so I am not sure on that one .
As far as I can tell, Cydric has removed their uft/ufs tags on all of the characters they've received for free. I only had time to check a handful of random ones.
If anyone has evidence otherwise, please let me know. Until then, I'm not going to ban them from the freebie bin just yet.
@Fhvn Please check under update 10/24/18 It was just edited not to long ago with proof from the adopters on DA as well as a couple of adopts still in gallery from previous posts.
Fvhn No matter how many times I spell it, it still auto corrects it the other way. Post above this one. ^
lol autocorrect. "This word does not exist, so I am going to change it to another word that does not exist." -_- Thank you for the update!
Just a quick note- I'm still not sure about the "legality" of trading characters from forum games. Because technically, even though it was a blind trade, it was still a trade for another character. So I see how it could be argued that trading those characters is okay. Selling, however, would be pushing it unless there was permission from the person that sent it and the original creator.
Fvhn Auto correct is weird - As for the trading goes, in most threads it outright states no trading the characters. In the blind games you are gifting a character out, because YOU as the gifter do not get to pick and choose what you get in return. Cydric has been using the ones he gets for free as a means of currency to get art or character he wants specifically. That's why so many people are upset.( That and the selling of free adopts in the first place ) Because it's against both thread rules in a lot of places, as well as just individual gifting rules. I could, in most cases, understand if he didn't understand this, or didnt understand the 'legality' of it as you put it. But he has had many people at this point contact him about such things, and yet he is still putting/keeping characters up for offer or trade... He just removes the ones he is specifically caught with, and then continues.
At this point to, he has made no point what so ever, to actually even talk to anyone that has talked to him. He just deletes the tag and ignores them. In all honesty if he would just actually talk to someone, maybe we could get this whole thing settled. Whether its just some odd state of confusion on the manner, or just fixing the error that was made.
- Scratch that - he has responded to ONE person on DA, and I was informed the only reason was because they told them if he didnt they would revoke the adopt they gave him, as he had no permission to sell the adopt.
Personally I would rather just see this whole thing amended. If nothing else, saying your sorry goes a long way in my opinion, and making an actual effort to remove adopts from the trade or sale tag that should not or can not be sold or traded, without someone pointing out that specific adopt would say a lot.