Bread's Bulletins


Teelia has stolen my designs

Posted 3 months, 6 days ago by Bread

edit: i have made an extended post here: https://toyhou.se/~bulletins/1865743.extended-teelia-bulletin

if you have questions or concerns regarding this post, please read the other post for more context, thanks!


this is in regards to Teelia / https://toyhou.se/Teelia / https://archive.is/1pIeN 
other names she goes by are Teelia Pelletier / LadyTeelia / Sato / Satomail / Avi / AvianaArts / AviJethArts / Jethro / Vidyal (these are all public names)
i am making this as a last resort. i didnt want to make this public, but toyhouse staff has refused to even respond to me. its been over a few year now.

*links contain archive links as well to show proof


Character Theft:

teelia has consistently split and stolen design credit from me, and the staff continues to ignore my messages about this.
she has redesigned these characters, which is fine, but my art rules clearly state that my designs are not to be split, or co-owned, which basically all these characters are.

2019 TOS: (https://sta.sh/0214qdqs9c7k)
2019 proof teelia knows/ had known that this rule was included in my tos:

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current TOS: (https://toyhou.se/~bulletins/444916.tos-faq-etiquette#tos)


question i'm preemptively answering: 'how did she gain the creator role/ you were listed in the ownership logs/ you gave it to her/ etc.'

i never gave teelia the creator role on my designs. i moved my designs from my toyhouse to my deviantart (ESPEON). it still was credited to me at that point. sometime later down the line she claimed ownership of the designs, which is what started this whole thing.


Offending Designs:

Boredom / Donald

original: https://toyhou.se/1889485.donald / https://archive.is/eQ2Ml
copycat/split: https://toyhou.se/18233640.boredom / https://archive.is/Ea6jU
original post, acknowledgement that i made design: https://www.deviantart.com/espeon/art/Boredom-Design-for-Teelia-733444061 / https://archive.is/48CSt

*unknown what was traded for


Mayhem / Henry

original: https://toyhou.se/698816.henry / https://archive.ph/e0J53
copycay/split: https://toyhou.se/18233508.mayhem / https://archive.is/QZLwA

*Unknown what was paid for/ made but is in pending folder

acknowledging i made it: https://www.deviantart.com/teelia/art/Deviate-Mandatory-2018-References-748888490 / https://archive.ph/IFZ90


Demo / Whimsical

original: https://toyhou.se/684060.whimsical / https://archive.is/UpfXm
copycat/split: https://toyhou.se/18596265.demo / https://archive.is/zepiT 

*Unknown what was paid/made for


Reel

original: https://toyhou.se/684061.reel / https://archive.is/TMUtm
copycat/split: https://toyhou.se/18596268.reel / https://archive.is/weT4r 

*Unknown where this character is right now


Amplitude

original, no credit assigned to me: https://toyhou.se/744649.amplitude / https://archive.is/UrmYj
comment: https://toyhou.se/~comments/28650627  / https://archive.is/KTaBl 


this is hard for me to suggest how to resolve, as she has taken money and art from unsuspecting people with no regard and no notice of them being splits. it is not fair to these new owners. i would still highly prefer that these characters become whole again, or for Teelia to delete/remove her splits of these designs.

as it stands now, both versions of these split designs can not be traded, sold, or gifted. the 'new' version Teelia owns still are connected to the old designs whether she admits to it or not.



Patreon:

this part is shorter, but nonetheless as egregious as the former complaint. teelia is making money off of my art, which is breaking my tos rules.

https://www.patreon.com/LadyTeelia / https://archive.ph/5YTRF / https://web.archive.org/web/20240215205025/https://www.patreon.com/LadyTeelia

the $50 tier states as one of it's perks: "Authorization of my Toyhouse (access to unwatermarked and hidden images for my characters, a TH code can be provided as needed!)"

my art rules clearly state that my art strictly falls under the  Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/4.0/)

2019 TOS: (https://sta.sh/0214qdqs9c7k)

2019 proof teelia knows/ had known that this rule was included in my tos:

80718488_sRAWK0b4eROcgAQ.jpg

current TOS: (https://toyhou.se/~bulletins/444916.tos-faq-etiquette#tos)

either teelia needs to remove all my art from her toyhouse (not hide, remove), or she needs to unwatermark and unhide the art i have made for her to stop breaking my art tos rules.


Stolen Characters:

Teelia was supposed to make a full ref for two character trades, Feltlands/Synthetic(/1743225) and Circus(/1776819). A full ref, she states, as being two fullbodies and a headshot. She only made the one fullbody.

Essentially, she has stolen at least one character from me. I am willing to go as far as to say she has stolen both of these characters from me.

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https://toyhou.se/4009679.-ivy-bob-#13623893 

Us talking about the trade:
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Unfinished Art Trades:

She still owes / owed me an animated doll, as well as another custom she never completed. I had completed my side of the bargain
(https://toyhou.se/907204.clock/8719808.feline-form#9353457)
(https://toyhou.se/6737049.pentaprism)

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Here is her confirming with me what we owe. (Note; she did complete the drawing of Bread)


Closing Words:

I have not gotten into the mental turmoil Teelia has caused me at the end of our friendship/following years, as I do not see it as necessary at this point. For now, I do not think it is fair to let Teelia keep getting away with blatantly stealing art, designs, and essentially money from other users when her whole schtick is making and selling designs. Whether or not you believe Teelia is a good person or not is up to you. I'm simply sharing what she's personally done to me.

As a note; This bulletin has nothing to do with Teelia's LupisVulpes shenanigans, as I am not involved with her concerning that subject, though I do thank the multiple people for posting those threads as it made me feel safe enough to post this.

T.O.S , F.A.Q. , Etiquette

Posted 2 years, 8 months ago by Bread

Terms Of Service


This T.O.S. is valid to  characters I have made that are credited to me and not credited to me.  (Names I am credited under may be ESPEON @ DeviantArt or LOSTNEVADA @  YouTube)
If you own a character I've made that is unverified, you are free to send a creator request.

Important:

  • This is valid only to characters I have created.
  • Once received, you can trade, sell, gift, etc. my characters.
  • My only rule is that characters are not allowed to be used in commercial media. If you would like this, please discuss this with be beforehand.

General Rules:

  • My general art, unless otherwise explicitly stated, falls under the Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International
  • Commissioned work that you (the buyer) have purchased falls under the Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International
  • You are free to edit the species, gender, markings, backstory, etc.
  • You are free to edit the actual art with the design.
  • While you're free to change my designs as much as you want, you can not remove me as a designer/ creator.
  • Do not split my designs.
  • You are free to adapt my design onto CS (Closed Species) but my rules will still apply, and you can not split the designs.
  • I do not handle trade/ sale disputes between people.



Frequently Asked Questions


What do you use to draw?

I use Clip Studio Paint EX and a Gaomon PD1161. The brushes I use (mainly) are the Artemus, G-Pen, and Reuleuax Triangle.

Are commissions/trades open?

Commissions are on a case by case basis right now. Most likely, I will not take your commissions. I do not do trades with non-mutuals.

» If you are interested in prices, they are located here. You can message me with a proposition on art and I will let you know if I am interested.

Do you do pings?

At this time, I do not do pings.

Can I take inspiration from your characters?

The short answer: yes, I'm perfectly fine with people taking inspiration from my characters. In most scenarios, you can take inspiration and you won't even have to ask because I won't even be able to tell. Taking heavy inspiration from my characters can make me uncomfortable, though, depending on which character and what aspects you take- Mainly their designs. There are nuances to this discussion, so if you're ever unsure you can always PM me for approval.

» Please note this doesn't apply to designs I've made and have sold or auctioned off. I'm only comfortable with people taking inspiration from characters I own myself. Do not reference art or designs of commissioned / sold work. Thank you.



ToyHouse Etiquette


  • You are free to put designs I own in "dreamies" folders.
  • +Fav bombing is fine.
  • I block lgbt-phobic, xenophobic, exclusionist, and trolls. I do not have a public block/blacklist.