NEW TERMS FOR DESIGN OWNERS

Posted 8 months, 19 days ago by SlaughterHouse

Due to a lot of stuff happening all at once, I have decided that I no longer allow trades nor sales for character designs created by me. I am simply just no longer comfortable with people owning my designs. Because of this, these designs will be on a strict tradeback rule, and if you no longer wish to own them, they shall be traded or sold back to me and me alone. I also kindly ask that you don't hide the designs, as I wish to be able to keep track of them more thuroughly than ever. Unfortunately this new rule also goes for my personal friends and mutuals on here, as the escalation of things has made me more stressed to inforce these terms than ever, even if I know and like you, so I sincerely apologize for that as well as any general inconveniences this may cause the current or previous owners.

CURRENT OWNERS I'M AWARE OF
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If you know someone else who has a design of mine, that is not on this list, please @ them in the comments.

You are more than welcome to send any design you own back to me for free, it will majorly help take some stress off my shoulders, otherwise, you can also request something in return for them.

What I can offer :
Trades, Artwork (No Customs), USD (PayPal or CashApp), Vouchers and more.

It can all be sorted out through DM's, so feel free to dm me about it if you want information on one of the available offers, or multiple. You are also welcome to comment under this thread or on my profile, or by @'ing me in the characters profile, but DM's are preffered.

If you aren't willing to trade or sell them back to me at this time, I kindly ask you to consider my offer and return to me when you are willing.
If the character is already pending to a new owner you MUST inform them of this new policy. The same rule applies for them.

Thank you all for your understanding, have a wonderful day / night.

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Hey! I'm ready to sell my oc! Dm?

Hi! I will be moving Ethan over here so he's going to my alt acc! https://toyhou.se/20229380.ethan-landry  https://toyhou.se/mroutlaw

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Thank you.

Hi! Letting you know that I'll be moving Delta to my new account as to not alarm you. : ) 

Thanks for letting me know!

Hello, I'm thinking about putting this girl up for offers, https://toyhou.se/16743172.yushimi, as you mentioned that you would like to buy them back I'm notifying you to know your interest

Yep! Are you interested in looking at trades, art or purely USD for them?

I'm looking for 50$^^

In fact, for art, what could you offer?

Sorry for leaving you unanwsered for so long . . Life got in the way. I can offer anything really aside from a custom. What would you want in exchange for her? My base offer would be a fullbody to match the art she has but I'm flexible so let me know, whatever would make you the most comfortable of course.

No problem, I hope everything is ok now.^^

Would it be possible to do a full body of this girl here?

https://www.deviantart.com/yulzadopt/art/Closed-Adopt-Auction-982880992

Of course. Do you have a discord I could message you over? It'd make it easier for me to get in touch.

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I can offer both. How much usd would you be looking for?

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Super sorry for the late reply. Would $10 be alright?

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Paid

Read the PSA and this and I'm a neutral party but just wanted to inform you that you can get in legal trouble for selling/trading your designs and then attempting to reclaim them later by force. I didn't see this explicity mentioned in your TOS above but the person below me commented something about it as recent as 2 days ago so I wanted to address it

Once you sell/trade a character to someone else, they're out of your hands. As long as the owner abides by your TOS, legally the character belongs to the buyer. Your TOS change has been fairly recent, and so I feel this is unfair for anyone who owns older designs from you. If you haven't already I advise you look into changing that, I do understand why you don't feel comfortable in the art community and what happened to you does really suck, but I don't nessicarily think withdrawing every single character you made is the best choice right now. Some people can grow really attached to OCS and might be upset because they legally have rights to a character that you are demanding back.

Just thought I'd mention this, again I'm neutral and understanding to this situation, so no hard feelings

I will reply to this as thoroughly as I can, though I would appreciate if people DM'd me about matters concerning personal opinions rather than stated them here as it clogs up the thread.

1. I'm following the laws in my country concerning my own creations, as my art falls under those laws and those laws only, aside from my personal Terms Of Service of course. Legally I am allowed to recall my own work as long as a legally binding contract has not been signed, which I don't sign with any of my customers unless requested for commercial use out of my own comfort. That doesn't mean that I'm "selling/trading your designs and then attempting to reclaim them later by force" as I am not forcing anyone following my Terms Of Service to return any designs. Only those who have seriously harassed me as the artist, continuously broken my Terms Of Service or the laws of my country. I am forcing a trade-back rule, but everyone are allowed to keep their designs if they are not comfortable parting with them just yet. However when they are letting them go, they can only trade or sell the design back to me.

2. The person below you and me have long ongoing drama going back a while now that I won't get into. They are most likely concerned about a forceful tradeback as they are aware of that and I have recently pulled a design back from another user on this platform who violated me, my rights and my Terms Of Service MULTIPLE TIMES for YEARS and are currently going around spreading one sided lies about the situation. I am not going to pull the design from the user below as they never broke my Terms Of Service to that degree, as we simply only have personal drama going on. But I can respect their concerns nontheless, even though it doesn't apply to the situation as a whole. AGAIN. I will not pull any designs from people forcefull unless the owner goes extremely far to violate me and my rights as an artist, once they do, I have all the right to pull it back. But I don't use that loosely.

3. My Terms Of Service change happened once I read up on the laws in my country, which legally apply here from the point of me creating the artwork and onwards. Thus it's nothing that wouldn't apply back then too, rather just something I wasn't aware of at the time and thus couldn't add. 

4. Unfortuntaly I didn't ask for your legal opinion and as some of the drama going on is reaching into IRL legal troubles I am going to handle the situation in a way that I feel comfortable with. I will withdraw every single characrer I have made as that's what I'm the most comfortable with. Whether it be now or once the current owners decide to part with their desings. That is my choice and I am sticking with that as that is the best choice for me, my health and my mental health right now.

5. I'm not demanding anything, which you are missing the context of. If people want to keep their designs that's fine AS LONG AS THEY HAVE FOLLOWED MY TERMS OF SERVICE.

I understand that you're trying to be helpful.. but since you're missing a ton of context on the situation, what's happening and what I'm asking of people, as well as context from my point of view, it's not coming across as neutral nor understanding. Still no hard feelings, but please do some research next time or contact the person in question privately to learn what's happening before taking a stance in it.

I’m sorry. I apologize for commenting without knowing the full situation. I will remove my comment and I wish you the best in solving this, I got confused about the situation and you’re right I should have read up on it more. I apologize again!

Actually I have found I cannot delete it so I think you’re going to have to, apokogies

Wanted to let you know I'm privatizing the design I own made by you due to the fear that, as stated in your tos, you might reclaim it without permission and resell it due to my unwillingness to cooperate with giving my beloved character back to you. This character had gone through a lot and helped me with a bunch of stuff so I will not be getting rid of it in the foreseeable future. I rightfully got it and have proof of said interaction taking place.

Oh I know. No worries. I'm not reclaiming it for any reason. You're welcome to private it as you wish. An access link or authorized list view would be appreciated but I understand if you'd rather not. Thank you for informing me either way.

I'd rather not as the character has art, not made by me, I'd like to keep hidden as to preserve his dignity.

Alright. That's fine. Again, thank you for notifying me.

Would also appreciate if my name was taken out of that list if possible, I keep getting pinged here and idk why, I'm pretty sure it's some sort of bug with the post

There you go. You should no longer be getting any pings.

If you inform me of which character was originally designed by you I am more than willing to sell it back to you AS I am selling off all of my current designer anyway my only requirement atm is I can only take PayPal or Chashapp

Atm I have had someone who has been planning on buying it for 5-15$ for like 2 months now but dou to my inactivity I didn't finish the Real so if u could match that b/c of the lose that would be great

I sadly can't buy them right this second, but I'll let you know once I'm able to purchase them again.

Alright I just realized I never replied to this communication and I’m sorry for the inconvenience 

Hii, sorry, I haven’t been on toyhouse in a while. Just letting you know I read this and will respect the trade back if the time comes 👍

Hii I'm so so sorry for being late hajsjs I rarely check TH nowadays, 🥲🥲 https://toyhou.se/11738336.avenyr

I read you're message on my profile. What would you be willing to offer for them? I'm fine with trades and usd

I can only offer trades atm sadly. But would someone here interest you else than Poki?
https://toyhou.se/TheRedPrince/characters/folder:4604880

No worries and aaa I don't really see anyone that interests me tbh. :')

In the eo folder that is 

Anyone outside?

https://toyhou.se/19674057.eo-latte Would you be down to trade for her? If so I can do that.

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i saw the comment, sry if im a bit late im able to take art or trades in exchange but preferably trade since i got em by trade

https://toyhou.se/9650121.akito

https://toyhou.se/TheRedPrince/characters/folder:4604880

Anyone here interest you else than Motto or Poki?

I can do them. Send Akito my way and I'll transfer you Quincy.

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My que is a bit full atm but would you consider anyone here?

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Would you be down to do Jolly?

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Pending. Just send the character my way when possible.

I'm still very much fond of and use my boy I got from you, if ever comes the time that I don't use 'im I will certainly let you know 💜

Let me know if you change your mind.

Hey!! Thank you for the ping. I’m sorry you’re going through all of this. 

I have — this guy! Perhaps for just $5 worth if possible? Or art maybe!

I also have this guy - but I’m not 100% ready to part with him just yet. But I’ll most likely come around sometime. I hope that’s okay! 

I can definitely do $5 or art for the first guy, whichever you'd prefer.

As for the second character, just let me know once you're ready to part with him.

Okie dokie! The $5 would be preferred. Should i DM you? :o

Sure thing.

I am very attached to her but I'm interested in your art if you'd like to trade, whatever seems fair if you'd be interested ^^ https://toyhou.se/15293870.azrael

Certainly. What do you think would be fair? How many pieces / what kind of pieces would you want in exchange for her?

Since your art is such high quality and since Azrael has so many art pieces I'd be willing to ask for 2 or 3 fullbody pieces I'd you are okay with that. I'd be perfectly fine with you doing full creative liberty. I am highly attached to her but I'm looking for art of a few of my OCs in My Mains folder if you'd be willing to draw them ^^ (Jinxx/Aleister/Crowley)

I can do that. Please put her on hold for me while I draw them.

Azrael is now in my On Hold folder for you ^^

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I can trade you anyone here for them. I can also possible do a combination of USD + characters if that might interest you.

Let me know. If no one interests you I will look into possibly purchasing them though I will note, as you traded characters for them yourself, it might be better for me to do the values of the characters you traded combined rather than the value of the character to make it fair, unless of course combined they do add up to $250.

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Very well. Are you interested in anyone I have for trade? Let's start with that.

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Very well. Would you be willing to do a payment plan?

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I'm very sorry to hear that - I hope everything goes well for you 

I have this design

I was looking at maybe USD but idm any thing that you could offer

May I ask what character you traded for them? I'll calculate a fair offer based on that if you wouldn't mind.