General Thread for PSAs

Posted 8 years, 24 days ago (Edited 5 years, 6 months ago) by Vespisia

Hello!

8/9: New PSA added.

5/14: 2 new PSAs added.

4/8: New PSA posted and additional information on Squidribs added to relevant PSA.

It was suggested that there should perhaps be a general thread for PSAs which is a fine idea. A place that links to other PSAs and keep things organized.
You can link your threads/PSAs/etc, and I'll add them to the posts. :D
Please Note: I can only accept public PSAs. Anon PSAs are too much of a risk to accept, as they can be open to slander.

Things That Count for PSAs!
-Scams
-Illegally chargebacked (you did a commission, but person claims you never did, for instance)
-Being shifty on doing owed things (taking months on an icon for example, lack of contact or updates, etc)
-Tracing and profiting off of it...
-Etc...

Things That Don't Count!
-Someone has better art than you
-Rude behavior
-Subjective issues
-Dog ate your homework

Obviously, this is just the basic frame work. Each case is different. For instance, someone could go around harassing artists for art and customs, or for people to give up their adopts and whatnot, and that could almost certainly be considered for a PSA...

Of course, it would be great if no more PSAs occur, but in the case they do, I support people posting them because they keep the community safe and will link to them in this general thread. owo/

There'll be two posts, one for PSAs and one for resolved cases! ^^

glizzrybear

concluded! tysm

hello! can i get an input on what to do,,

i have a character pending for someone in exchange for 2 custom designs. it’s been more than 2 years since then (start date: june 7 2021, all correspondence done via discord). they’ve finished 1 of the custom, leaving 1 more to do but they went silent on discord from june 2022. i didnt bother them but i saw they were active on th, posting bulletins and opening commissions, also doing adopts all throughout those silent months with their most recent seen upload being late sept 2023.

on sept 6 2023 i popped in to finally ask about updates and i got no reply. i sent a “bump” message on the 20th which they replied to on the same day saying they’ll get a sketch to me tomorrow. its now october and i haven’t gotten any sketch, nor have i got any more replies to me asking for updates since then. i had sent a message suggesting setting a hard deadline so it wont go unchecked like before and i feel like its a reasonable thing to request 2 years in. but since they havent replied im assuming they havent read it…? hGDHj i honestly dunno what else to do so im turning to here to see if anyone has any suggestion! 🙏 

feel free to ping me!

Spacemensch

glizzrybear

I am not the most knowledgeable on this since I have only been on TH only a bit over a year and only active a bit before that, so take what I say with some salt. (But going to reply because sometimes it seems a bit quiet here on the advice aspects.)

But honestly, I would leave them a final message, saying if a soon hard deadline for sketch and final phase of the artwork remaining is not made, that the trade will be void since they did not hold up their end of the deal. I'm also fairly sure that 2 years is well beyond a reasonable wait time; I usually hear a full year is about the absolute maximum for what can be expected, and that that year length.

But honestly? I also think it would be extremely valid to document all of your convos (in case of future troubles) and then just cancel the trade. Maybe send the firat custom back if that feels right and possible.

Basically, one of the things I learned the hard way from situations like yours is that some people do not handle communication well when you're essentially acting as a client (even if for a trade). I also can say when I asked others about how to handle such things on TH, I pretty immediately got unanimous responses of "never send the character until the full art is presented". (I also personally have been burned several times on this site by not doing as recommendeda and sending the characters early as a sign of good will.)

But essentially, you two made a deal, and this deal has not been honored in its full capacity. If someone was buying the character and only paid half, it would be within your rights to not send it, so a trade can be viewed as such too. Most situations where exceptions would be made are imho for artists who communicate well.


TLDR: This isn't really good communication or honoring the original deal. I think it is within your full rights to back out given the excessive time frame and lack of contact.

glizzrybear

i got a reply!! and a conclusion has been reached, ty both for the help ;w;

Spacemensch

thank you for replying nonetheless, i appreciate any input i can get! i did meant for my last message regarding applying a hard deadline to be my “last message” of sorts, but my worry is because atm its still not replied to and assumedly also unread…. yeah,, im wondering how long should i wait for a response and if i dont get it in said timeframe, if it would be appropriate for me to unilaterally cancel the trade TT they’ve uploaded arts and designs since their message of sending “an update by today” (this was on the 20th of sept) so i know they were still active and i just dunno why my messages arent getting replied to :”D i can’t return the first custom so thats why i feel like its more tricky,,

Rikki

returning the first custom is unfortunately not possible and i agree this makes it tricky,, i did ask if they were still doing the custom or not and presented an option of refunding (forgot to mention in the first message, but the artist made payment to cover for a commission of the character they were offering for). but they chose to continue with the custom option saying they’ll get me an update by today (today being sept 20th, and i havent receiped any image or written reply till today despite me reaching out to them multiple times since). thank you for the options u gave, i’ll continue trying to reach them and hopefully get a reply so we can figure out stuff more,,!

Spacemensch

Nozoki   I fully understand your concerns since there are plenty of people who actively disobey that rule. I have a suggestion but it is worth noting this only applies if the Tent folder is just called that and ambiguously placed. Like if it's under the sale/trade folder or has a description saying they are UFO, then this doesn't apply.

Personally, I would wait a few more days and see if they reply, because I could in theory see a "Tent" folder being along the lines of "might give away, might keep", if the user is using terms in a nonstandard way. That being said, your concerns are totally valid; I just could also see someone labeling differently or even making a mistake in the mass character manager that cause this. So maybe wait until its been 5-7 days since the first mail was sent, and send a follow up mail and go from there?


Unfortunately it is difficult because I have gotten the impression on TH that not everyone is against trading gifted characters they made, so I would hope it is a misunderstanding... That being said, definitely a concern and good to monitor since them having several freebies there is a biy worrying.

orphan

Nozoki - from what i’ve seen (and my personal opinion) tent = undecided, as it’s short for tentative. as the user above said, if it’s in a UFO or sales folder and is marked as such, then you should keep an eye out. otherwise, it most likely means they don’t know what they’re going to do with the character yet, and would potentially look at offers or anything similar. 

SpaceHyena

It's generally in poor taste to trade/sell a character you got for free.

vinnys

Kidney_Kat seems like this is his new account (see thelonelyisland’s comment & the top crossed out bit of his bio), someone else in a different forum had the same question!

https://toyhou.se/~forums/11.general-off-topic/448309.does-anyone-know-what-happened-to-the-user-squirtf 

https://toyhou.se/ponyzilla

RoseCoffee

Starloop that sounds fishy. Not necessarily scammy but definitely odd I’d message again and try to see what’s going on. But be polite because something may genuinely be going on irl for them