General Thread for PSAs

Posted 8 years, 5 days ago (Edited 5 years, 6 months ago) by Vespisia

Hello!

8/9: New PSA added.

5/14: 2 new PSAs added.

4/8: New PSA posted and additional information on Squidribs added to relevant PSA.

It was suggested that there should perhaps be a general thread for PSAs which is a fine idea. A place that links to other PSAs and keep things organized.
You can link your threads/PSAs/etc, and I'll add them to the posts. :D
Please Note: I can only accept public PSAs. Anon PSAs are too much of a risk to accept, as they can be open to slander.

Things That Count for PSAs!
-Scams
-Illegally chargebacked (you did a commission, but person claims you never did, for instance)
-Being shifty on doing owed things (taking months on an icon for example, lack of contact or updates, etc)
-Tracing and profiting off of it...
-Etc...

Things That Don't Count!
-Someone has better art than you
-Rude behavior
-Subjective issues
-Dog ate your homework

Obviously, this is just the basic frame work. Each case is different. For instance, someone could go around harassing artists for art and customs, or for people to give up their adopts and whatnot, and that could almost certainly be considered for a PSA...

Of course, it would be great if no more PSAs occur, but in the case they do, I support people posting them because they keep the community safe and will link to them in this general thread. owo/

There'll be two posts, one for PSAs and one for resolved cases! ^^

birbutt

Huh, birb doesn't really know much about DA. Seems like since the points were transferred a certain way, it seems like it'd be out of their hands, at least by their help stuffs. Birb'd take this as a good chance to ask the questions, in first person, before dropping things.

As for the new person, birb doesn't actually know them...? Birb thought they'd be messaged by them at some point, cause if they were this person's buddo and was the one who went out of their way to friend and follow birb? Birb'll just go ahead and remove them, tho...

CupidCola

I need some advice.

My friend has given me stolen (confirmed) characters, but I cannot find one characters owner for the life of me.

I was super attached to him, but when I learned he might be stolen I took down his whole toyhouse.

Should I make a forum looking for the owner?

I'm still gathering up proof for a beware on my friend.

SquidsInTheAttic

@RussiasSunflower

I would definitely post a looking for owner.  If you know the original artist I would take it to them and ask who the original buyer was.  If you don't know the original artist then I would post their original reference in this thread.  If you're unsure which is the original you can post what you have in there and see if someone can help you locate the artists.  One is bound to be the maker.

CupidCola

SquidsInTheAttic


I know the artist but the character has been passed around way too much for them to know who the owner is.

How would I go about searching for their owner?

SquidsInTheAttic

@russiassunflower

I think the best option then is to post them on toyhouse and see if anyone recognizes them.

aerilurus

i don't really know how to do a TL;DR of my current problem, but I've decided to put it under a spoiler because it does not entirely involve anyone in Toyhouse, but i'm just seeking for advice,,

First and foremost, I want to thank anyone who reads this. This is the first time I've been in this nature of situation, and I want to deal with it as swiftly and as fairly as I can.
Sorry for any mistakes, English is not my first langauge.

User genericnamenyx on deviantArt and nyx on Adopts Amino has been caught selling and trading 2 designs she did not own and create. One design was a flat sale adopt, and another was an auctioned adopt.

Another user on the Amino community contacted me to ask if nyx owns the adopt and proof they have bought it or have traded for it. That is a negatory.
I contacted the person I initially sold it to, which is user ˗ˏˋ ◁Chisana Tsuki▷ ˎˊ˗ on HQ Adopts Amino and Chisana-Tsuki on dA.
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The post advertising the auction was disabled by a curator; the owner herself messaged one. 

The second adopt in question was one I auctioned. Nyx's version of the design is a different gender, and attempted to pass it off as an OTA. I've made the deviantArt post earlier than Nyx's post on the amino.

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I also contacted the person who bought the auctioned adopt from me, Peridotite on TH, and he also confirmed that the design was not traded or sold off-site. I'm still on neutral ground if gender change of an adopt is major or minor, but I found it sketchy that it was changed in this instance.

After this, I DM'd a curator in the Adopts Amino community, and Nyx's profile was hidden. I assumed the situation has blown over.

However, I decided to talk to Nyx myself and she has told me that she bought the design from backsofoaks on deviantArt for 1,000 points. Nyx was supposedly given the watermarked version of the image from backsofoaks, further proof that the design was stolen. 

Nyx claims that the post backsofoaks made was deleted. Backsofoaks, however, has no posts on their dA and does not have an amino account AFAIK. 

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I'm currently trying to ask Nyx to provide a screenshot that they've given backsofoaks 1,000 points. I didn't think that she'd have a 4-month old throwaway account to pin the blame on, but I find it suspicious that she has only given me the left side of the transaction history page, not showing that the 1k points were given to backsofoaks. I would think it is hard to show it on a phone, but the horizontal orientation would have worked. (I blanked out possible usernames in the screenshot.)

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After searching, I find that both accounts actually have the same birthday and relatively new. I think backsofoaks and genericnamenyx are the same person. 

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Nyx is offline at this moment.

Dolce

aerilurus sorry to hear you went through that! And unfortunately I don't really have any good advice to give either - have you tried contacting backsofoaks? - but I do think the note between nyx and backsofoaks seems suspicious and probably forged/they sent it between each other after you pressed them. Mainly because the time stamp given for the most recent reply is 14 seconds ago. Idk about other people but when I buy adopts/custom adopts, I do not take screenshots of proof as soon as I get the all clear from the previous owner/designer that they're mine - only if a situation should arise where my ownership is questioned would I go back and take a screenshot to send.

Also, if backsofoaks posted the adopt on dA, then deleted it once it was sold (or whatever), wouldn't it still show up on their dA page's # of deviations? I'm not 100% sure on this, just making a guess since I used to have a gallery full of deviations and then deleted them because they were so outdated, but the number of deviations on my page still shows they existed.

I did notice that if you google backsofoaks's name, the username is mentioned on some Amino pages: here, here, and here, if you want to try contacting them since I'm not sure how active they are on dA. Actually, the last user seems to have changed their username (I don't know if that's possible on Amino since I don't use it, but I'll assume yes?), but a cached webpage shows that their username was once "backsofoaks" - you can see that here.

Anyway, sorry it's not much. >v< Hope I helped anyway?

aerilurus

Dolce

thank you so much for the kind words! 

and yeah it did help out a lot, i didn't think of searching the name in the spur of the moment. the art style and examples are similar across all accounts. im suspicious that they have multiple accounts as well, it might be a sign that they've been caught before. i'll try dm'ing them both on amino and dA. 

edit:

big yikes nyx and backsofoaks draw paw-hands the same way. artwork from backsofoaks | artwork from nyx (i'd advise clicking against that b/c that seems like pet play?)

they draw hands and forearms similarly. 

Lotor

Anyone know anything about @krisgoat & @krisgoatsadopthouse ?
A LOT of their characters are from a known problematic person [ Pvff / Alleviate ], and I'm super suspect.  I didn't want to post it in the thread dedicated to Pvff in case it's entirely unrelated, but it's fishy to me.

Kolo

adachi

krisgoat is the owner and operator of the pet site goatlings.com (you can see their collection of some fanart here); i don't think they know about pvff's shady stuff. they're not the same person, though

Lotor

Pyatiugolnik
Aaah, okay!  Thanks for the info.

Ellteo

PaperTsubaki I don't have any suggestions, BUT...would you mind DM'ing me this person's user? I want to put them on a personal blacklist. I'd rather not buy from them if they're mistreating other customers this badly. :(