Edit (1/26): I want to sincerely thank the admins for the updates to the rules they have done. It makes it clear that you all truly are listening to us, and I don't think that it can be overstated enough how much this will improve both minor's and adult's experiences while using TH. Genuinely, from the bottom of my heart;
Thank you!
Hello! This is the first time that I've posted something like this, but because of various recent events on this site, I feel like this isn't something that can't NOT be brought up anymore.
My suggestion is for stricter punishments for minors on this site that lie about their age in order to evade mature content blockers that are set on this website. I have had to report two users within a span of maybe two weeks for evading the mature blockers by lying about their ages, one very openly writing fetish material with other users and with their characters while interacting with adult users and other minors. In each of these situations, the ONLY punishment that these users have faced is their account age being changed to the appropriate age.
After talking with several other users who have faced similar experiences, I felt like it was needed to send a plea to the admins to enforce stricter punishments when dealing with such users.
The Reasons Why This Needs to Be Enforced:
Suggestion For Punishment:
Of course, this is also open for suggestions, but after talking with other users, this is the current suggestion for how to deal with this offense:
While punishment should ALWAYS be a case by case basis, the course of action when a minor is caught faking their age to bypass mature content filters should be a temporary ban of two weeks, plus the official changing of their age. Just to make it clear that this situation IS taken seriously, while still giving them the chance to acknowledge WHY what they did is wrong, and be able to grow from there
If the user is caught trying to circumvent the temporary ban OR the mature filters again by creating a new account, then a permanent IP-ban would be put in place.
Of course, this is still open to suggestions as I said, and I would love to hear feedback from other users.
In short, I feel for the safety of ALL users on this site, both adults AND minors alike, the situation of minors lying about their age to circumvent the mature content filters needs to be handled much more seriously than it has been. I love Toyhouse, and I love how broad a range of content creators we have on here, but when there is a legitimate fear to interacting with anyone or posting mature content because it isn't treated with the serious that it needs, it makes it very hard to feel safe on this site as it is.
Thank you all for reading, I hope that I've at least made a little bit of sense (as I said, I'm not very good at doing this sort of thing), and if you have anything to add, please do so!
ignore the IC post TH is being wei rd
I was there on the callout post
No one called you sub human
They called you out for your behavior
People who are RPing with you when you blatantly posted on your profile that were 18, could access nsfw materials are not to blame for you purposefully withholding information from them. They thought they could trust you and you purposefully took advantage of that trust.
The fact that you are trying to make an argument that "shares the blame" proves you have learned nothing.
ChickieDee, on dA, not on TH, I couldn't find the TH one for the life of me.
I don't mean to be an ass, but let's cut bricks here, people lie all the time, especially kids and teens, and like Shyads said, they lie for a number of reasons. In my case, I was a dumbass and didn't know the risks, I still am, thanks to a bunch of things, but my point is kids and teens don't know the full risks, and they will be spiteful however they can just to try and be happy, which suprise, I would to.
But, let's get back to the main conversation, shall we? I never denied the idea of punish, I disagreed with how you suggested the punishment would be don. You've heard this, I've said this, let's focus on the future and how we can make it safer, alright?
Thank you! That second paragraph illustrates my point exactly; that without stricter punishments these kids really don't learn anything about how serious of an issue this really is, both for their own safety and for adults and other minors. The lying about age to protect their identity is one that I think cannot be applied to TH, since only the admins themselves can actually see this birthday. I don't remember what all pops up during sign up, but I believe clearer details about it not being able to be seen and only used to block mature content could be helpful for that? (But then it might just encourage the hormonal kids who choose to put others in danger to lie more about their age, but I'm not sure :0c)
The mature content warnings cover the idea of "telling the underage user it's for their own protection" I think, but even if they don't completely understand (because I get it, kids are dumb sometimes and don't understand the scope of things) there still needs to be punishments for blatantly ignoring site rules!
Pyatiugolnik, if anything, I'm blaming everyone. Namely myself, now I'm thinking a bit more clearly.
I have the DA callout up right now. I have read through every single comment.
I have the TH callout up right now. I have read through every single comment.
No one called you subhuman. The worst of the comments was someone saying that "you should have thought with your head and not your pants".
Do not warp this to make you the victim; you were not.
You were called out in a calm manner on your behavior, on your conscious choices to withold information and trick other users. If you claim to be 18, it is not their fault for trusting you. You have no one to blame for your decisions but yourself
Just because kids and teens "do not know the full risks" does not mean they should not be punished.
And as I said many many times before the permanent ban is ONLY for users who work their way around the temporary forum ban for their first offense.
I implore you to re-read what I said first before claiming I am not listening to you.
ChickieDee, that is a clear lie right there, I KNOW it, IDK if the guy deleted it or what, but this is the same guy who I can safely confirm noted EVERYONE I ever comm'd.
I'm not trying to make myself the victim. I'm not denying what I did because I know what I did was horribly, horribly wrong.
Also, it does feel like you're not listening? I keep saying that we SHOULD punish them, but we shouldn't let them have that second chance in the first place, and to make sure they can only come back once they're confirmed to be 18, such as what I did. This is something that, Unless I'm missing a comment, you haven't even acknowledged yet in any of your posts.
@Masther-Potato
Someone noting everyone you've commissioned to let them know of your deceit and to warn them is not calling you "subhuman"
That's protecting artists my dude.
I acknowledge it in the very first post I made to you where I told you the permanent ban was only in a case of temporary ban circumvention.
I am done talking to you. Have a wonderful day.
ChickieDee, oh, we're not done, not by a long shot.
The note guy said, if I recall, 'He should be treated like less then a human'. Now, it's been a while since I last read it, so I might not be 100% accurate. But, i don't know about you, but that sounds pretty dehumanizing.
I respect and understand that he was warning people, but surely the artists would see the PSA, right? Not to mention that he wasn't exactly friendly with those notes.
Also? Why do you think that a permanant ban would work? It's the IP part of it, which suprise, is what I have been saying over and over again, so tell me why my idea wouldn't be fair? Since you still haven't said anything about it?
Mashter for the last time:
THE IP BAN IS FOR, AND ONLY FOR, MINORS WHO ARE EVADING THE ORIGINAL TEMPORARY FORUM BAN FOR LYING ABOUT THEIR AGE. NOT EVEN A TEMPORARY SITE BAN. NOT FOR THE PROBLEM OF THE MINOR LYING.
This was in the original post. This is what I have told you in ALL of my subsequent posts.
You said that on the PSAs someone was calling you subhuman, which no one on the PSAs was. You mentioned NOTHING about these notes before, then OR up until now when I called you out on it, leading me to not believe you. If they TRULY said something along those lines, I'm sorry, and that would not be an appropriate response in that situation and it is not something that should be said to you or about you at all. But one person is not reason to disregard everyone else's anger towards your behavior and endangerment of others, and it does not mean anyone in the PSA was calling you this, which you have implied with everyone of your posts.
Yes, we ARE done, because you are blatantly not reading a word I'm saying. Good. Day.