EDIT RESOLVED: sheller has refunded everyone to my knowledge !
Sheller / Jodora / Shellerteller / hershelclayton (discord)
https://toyhou.se/~bulletins/1746572.quick-psa-sheller-jodora-mass-chargebacks link to mais bulletin for more context but seriously this just. defeated me. dealing with severe art block and self loathing already, but this just sealed the deal. i genuinely dont know if im going to do adopts or anything on TH anymore because of this. this same exact situation has happened to me twice. (where someone gets a design from me, they resell it, then charge me back. thus i cannot take the design back OR dispute anything through paypal since they always side with the buyer) this is just. i dont even know how to explain anymore. im just tired and i want to rest. please be aware of this person and do not do any business with them. they seem to be still active so be aware.
i dont have any other income besides my art, and having this happen along with my block. i just dont know how im going to make it out of this along w the numerous bills i have to pay and people i owe. this is just embarrassing at this point. if you wanna donate literally anything, u can do so on my ko fi. ill offer up some bases and exclusive stuff in a bit. i just need to settle down and really think about things atm. ty to everyone who is interested in my work. genuinely you all have been keeping me afloat for so many years, and i cannot thank you enough.
as for evidence of this. heres my screenshots on my side. the design in question was this one here: https://toyhou.se/25780463.marshall . it now belongs to mithra, they dont have anything to do with this so please dont attack them. but anyway
on feb 12th i had sold this design as they wanted to AB it. i was eternally grateful as i always am. the support i get from TH is insane and i appreciate it so much. i figure it was just like any other transaction
they decided to do a payment plan and i was okay with that, they were totally aware of it too (keep this in mind for later)
me getting the first payment and everything going through nicely
sheller had decided to resell my design, which i was fine with. they apparently charged $50 more than its worth, i get it, it was a mistake, so i was fine with that. im assuming everything went well with mithra.
proof of the ownership log. im sure if any of you have seen the adopt, you wouldve seen this too.
and here i am today, with the charge back of the whole entire payment plan of $300. apparently it was an "unintentional charge" even though they were FULLY aware of the purchase. i have already disputed this with paypal but i really doubt they will side with me, as they have done this before in the past (with a person named "amen" however their account is now closed. they got away with it). im really hoping with the amount of evidence, everyone can get everything situated but i really am just lost.
i had gotten several emails from their "mother" (above) and everything seemed to be okay? but theyre still active and are hiding and trading characters as we speak. please avoid doing ANY business with them. i am down $300 in a time that i have to pay a bill that is MORE than that in less than a week. theyre practically stealing the money that i had earned. and this hasnt just happened to me but SEVERAL others. im at my breaking point. if you have any experiences or screenshots of them please leave it below.
also sorry this is sloppy, never made a psa before nor do i care if its well written, im just trying to get the word out to as many people as i can and make sure others affected are not alone in this.
Kadrina im not sure what you mean with "refuse to come up with a plan"?
as far as i know the refunds are actively happening, but its on paypal to work through them, not sheller. sheller cant do anything besides wait for paypal to go through with all of them, but they are happening.
unless im misunderstanding something? im also not defending sheller or anything but spreading lies wont do any good.
from what i can see they post anytime a refund transaction has gone through, and while i agree that simply being told to wait for a refund sucks it wont be any faster if they report either of them to the police. it will actually take much longer since it needs to be investigated first, not to mention it will most likely go to court. this stuff takes a lot of time And patience, and i feel like everyones rightfully exhausted by now.
Gill has done nothing but block people who tell them or their mother has committed real crimes that have MASSIVE consequences... but still thinks it's okay to say "please don't get her arrested" while also admitting to block evading...? They only want to see comments supporting them which, sure, people can and will do as well as those who aren't supportive.
In my opinion, I absolutely want the police involved. It's not up to Gill OR their mother because it was a crime THEY committed. However, it is up to anyone who was directly involved to take that into action.
This situation would have had more supporters if Gill didn't have such a horrible attitude throughout the whole thing.
at this point, the old adage of ‘actions have consequences’ comes to mind. i am not affected, however i am all for someone who is going to the police about it. this is a serious issue, it shouldn’t just be brushed off/swept under the rug. both parties should be held accountable by the proper authorities because THIS IS WIRE FRAUD. THIS IS A CRIME. for anyone unsure of what the punishment for that entails, i’ll quote wikipedia here : ‘anyone trying to scam other people or groups through any form of telecommunication, or through writing, signs, pictures or sounds can be punished with a maximum prison sentence of 20 years. if the scam involves a financial institution, the maximum fine is raised to 1 million US dollars & a prison sentence not more than 30 years, or both.’
tl;dr THIS IS NOT A JOKE.