PSA: Sheller / Jodora (scamming/chargebacks)

Posted 3 months, 22 days ago (Edited 3 months, 3 days ago) by Chuchy07

EDIT RESOLVED: sheller has refunded everyone to my knowledge !


Sheller / Jodora / Shellerteller / hershelclayton (discord)

https://toyhou.se/~bulletins/1746572.quick-psa-sheller-jodora-mass-chargebacks link to mais bulletin for more context but seriously this just. defeated me. dealing with severe art block and self loathing already, but this just sealed the deal. i genuinely dont know if im going to do adopts or anything on TH anymore because of this. this same exact situation has happened to me twice. (where someone gets a design from me, they resell it, then charge me back. thus i cannot take the design back OR dispute anything through paypal since they always side with the buyer) this is just. i dont even know how to explain anymore. im just tired and i want to rest. please be aware of this person and do not do any business with them. they seem to be still active so be aware.

i dont have any other income besides my art, and having this happen along with my block. i just dont know how im going to make it out of this along w the numerous bills i have to pay and people i owe. this is just embarrassing at this point. if you wanna donate literally anything, u can do so on my ko fi. ill offer up some bases and exclusive stuff in a bit. i just need to settle down and really think about things atm. ty to everyone who is interested in my work. genuinely you all have been keeping me afloat for so many years, and i cannot thank you enough. 

https://ko-fi.com/chuchy07

as for evidence of this. heres my screenshots on my side. the design in question was this one here: https://toyhou.se/25780463.marshall . it now belongs to mithra, they dont have anything to do with this so please dont attack them. but anyway
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on feb 12th i had sold this design as they wanted to AB it. i was eternally grateful as i always am. the support i get from TH is insane and i appreciate it so much. i figure it was just like any other transaction
they decided to do a payment plan and i was okay with that, they were totally aware of it too (keep this in mind for later)
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me getting the first payment and everything going through nicely
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sheller had decided to resell my design, which i was fine with. they apparently charged $50 more than its worth, i get it, it was a mistake, so i was fine with that. im assuming everything went well with mithra.

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proof of the ownership log. im sure if any of you have seen the adopt, you wouldve seen this too.

and here i am today, with the charge back of the whole entire payment plan of $300. apparently it was an "unintentional charge" even though they were FULLY aware of the purchase. i have already disputed this with paypal but i really doubt they will side with me, as they have done this before in the past (with a person named "amen" however their account is now closed. they got away with it). im really hoping with the amount of evidence, everyone can get everything situated but i really am just lost.



i had gotten several emails from their "mother" (above) and everything seemed to be okay? but theyre still active and are hiding and trading characters as we speak. please avoid doing ANY business with them. i am down $300 in a time that i have to pay a bill that is MORE than that in less than a week. theyre practically stealing the money that i had earned. and this hasnt just happened to me but SEVERAL others. im at my breaking point. if you have any experiences or screenshots of them please leave it below.

also sorry this is sloppy, never made a psa before nor do i care if its well written, im just trying to get the word out to as many people as i can and make sure others affected are not alone in this.

pikipekker

can confirm what hakai and corn said; they are keeping an eye on designs they've made past bids on (as i've won one of them, and have never made contact with them before they came into its comment section) and are indeed blocking a bunch of people including an artist they owe money to. they're requesting a "proxy" friend be the communicator between them and said artist — my two cents here is that i would say the reasonable and financially mature action in this situation is to always settle the debts & repay the amount first, before blocking (claiming "unjust harassment" when it's literally just two reaction replies to my own post). a proxy shouldn't be needed; what's needed is responsibility first.

ryunosuke

asked them for my money back and blocked them for my own comfort, they sent the money and then 5 mins later im told they made a thread calling me on twitter (im ferretleaf)…not really sure what i did tbh

laneycore

ryunosuke
i think these screenies was the callout youre referring to? it just seems like theyre retaliating at several users both involved or uninvolved which is,,, lovely. /s
https://twitter.com/vaniinci/status/1765460820379762879

ryunosuke

laneycore YEAH.. god  😭yes, they're a longtime commissioner and yes they sent me gift art, but that didn’t stop me from being uncomfortable with their behaviour over the past few days…which is why i blocked them and they just Lost it 

SyberSpace

sheller deleting the warnings on ocs they are trying to sell...

Edit: they have now blocked comments on the chara after agreeing to settle in dms, strange

edit 2!: im exhausted by all of this, can confirm i did get a refund though! even though they sent this very rude comment then deleted it or blocked me, idk what they meant by "spamming" for funds when i all i did was say how frustrated i am and warned others of their childish behavior thus far but okay!
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