PSA: Sheller / Jodora (scamming/chargebacks)

Posted 3 months, 3 days ago (Edited 2 months, 15 days ago) by Chuchy07

EDIT RESOLVED: sheller has refunded everyone to my knowledge !


Sheller / Jodora / Shellerteller / hershelclayton (discord)

https://toyhou.se/~bulletins/1746572.quick-psa-sheller-jodora-mass-chargebacks link to mais bulletin for more context but seriously this just. defeated me. dealing with severe art block and self loathing already, but this just sealed the deal. i genuinely dont know if im going to do adopts or anything on TH anymore because of this. this same exact situation has happened to me twice. (where someone gets a design from me, they resell it, then charge me back. thus i cannot take the design back OR dispute anything through paypal since they always side with the buyer) this is just. i dont even know how to explain anymore. im just tired and i want to rest. please be aware of this person and do not do any business with them. they seem to be still active so be aware.

i dont have any other income besides my art, and having this happen along with my block. i just dont know how im going to make it out of this along w the numerous bills i have to pay and people i owe. this is just embarrassing at this point. if you wanna donate literally anything, u can do so on my ko fi. ill offer up some bases and exclusive stuff in a bit. i just need to settle down and really think about things atm. ty to everyone who is interested in my work. genuinely you all have been keeping me afloat for so many years, and i cannot thank you enough. 

https://ko-fi.com/chuchy07

as for evidence of this. heres my screenshots on my side. the design in question was this one here: https://toyhou.se/25780463.marshall . it now belongs to mithra, they dont have anything to do with this so please dont attack them. but anyway
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on feb 12th i had sold this design as they wanted to AB it. i was eternally grateful as i always am. the support i get from TH is insane and i appreciate it so much. i figure it was just like any other transaction
they decided to do a payment plan and i was okay with that, they were totally aware of it too (keep this in mind for later)
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me getting the first payment and everything going through nicely
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sheller had decided to resell my design, which i was fine with. they apparently charged $50 more than its worth, i get it, it was a mistake, so i was fine with that. im assuming everything went well with mithra.

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proof of the ownership log. im sure if any of you have seen the adopt, you wouldve seen this too.

and here i am today, with the charge back of the whole entire payment plan of $300. apparently it was an "unintentional charge" even though they were FULLY aware of the purchase. i have already disputed this with paypal but i really doubt they will side with me, as they have done this before in the past (with a person named "amen" however their account is now closed. they got away with it). im really hoping with the amount of evidence, everyone can get everything situated but i really am just lost.



i had gotten several emails from their "mother" (above) and everything seemed to be okay? but theyre still active and are hiding and trading characters as we speak. please avoid doing ANY business with them. i am down $300 in a time that i have to pay a bill that is MORE than that in less than a week. theyre practically stealing the money that i had earned. and this hasnt just happened to me but SEVERAL others. im at my breaking point. if you have any experiences or screenshots of them please leave it below.

also sorry this is sloppy, never made a psa before nor do i care if its well written, im just trying to get the word out to as many people as i can and make sure others affected are not alone in this.

Cornspiracy

The harrasment being they stalked the comments of an adopt my friend got and got upset they were being clowned on, untagged lol (AKA they went out of their way to interact with people who never contacted them. so yknow. not actually harrassment) https://toyhou.se/25991621.-/comments 

hakaisatsu

how about instead of blocking someone who you owe funds to without paying them back, you do the adult thing & PAY THEM BACK BEFORE BLOCKING THEM ???

just saying.  it’s not a novel concept.  act like an adult, fix what you screwed up.  your mental health is no excuse for your actions.

Cosmind

doggirl did you take screenshots of these bulletins? they seem to be hidden/auth only now

hakaisatsu

hidden or they’ve blocked you. they just went on a massive blocking spree, haha. probably to hide/take some sort of moral high ground because people keep calling them out for their shitty behavior.

hakaisatsu

i don’t mind pings haha. & good! i think it’s cosmind they’ve blocked, along with a smattering of other people trying to hold them accountable, even people who they’ve scammed/owe money to.

Cosmind

hakaisatsu

No Im not blocked. Beside the message you get viewing and hidden bulletin vs the bulleting of someone who has blocked you is different iirc.

if you're blocked or the bulletin was deleted you'd get the "page not found" message while if the bulletin is hidden/auth only it gives "You do not have permission to view this bulletin." (if my info is wrong feel free to correct me lol)

Cornspiracy

the fact they clearly are intending to buy more designs/are watching designs theyve won but have been revoked is actually insane. I don't believe they intend to leave the community after this.

hakaisatsu

when i tried to click a link to something they posted i got the ‘this action is unauthorized’ alert & i'm definitely blocked! xD curse me for being blunt towards them!

but yeah it’s really disturbing to see that they’re not planning on leaving after this. they don’t seem to grasp the damage they’ve done & think that they can just weasel their way back into their spending habit.