PSA/Beware User Skullkin / Hammerlockestadium

Posted 5 years, 6 months ago (Edited 3 years, 2 months ago) by CandyGhouls

I originally posted this on the main PSA thread but have been encouraged to make it a proper public PSA.
I've encountered an issue with the user Skullkin trying to resell characters that were traded to them.

I traded designs with them a while ago, exchanging them an anthro rabbit design by Lagena for an anthro design that they had. I had been originally traded the anthro rabbit design myself and the ownership page rights were specifically set to reflect that the design could be retraded and regifted but not resold. I noticed today though that the design was pending a sale to another user and I commented on the page to notify them that the character could not be resold, only traded. My comment was deleted. So I reposted my comment and Skullkin responded claiming that because I did not specifically tell them that it couldn't be resold, that they had the right to resell it. They claimed that they had a right to resell any design they owned. I remember an issue similar to this popping up in the past with someone having their own TOS for trades to give themself the ability to resell anything.

So I guess this is a small PSA to watch out for Skullkin who will resell designs that you trade to them, whether they are allowed for resell or not.

Screenshot of Character Page
Character Ownership Page That clearly shows that resales are not allowed.

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It was at this point in the conversation that they blocked me.

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Since our interaction Skullkin has now deleted the character completely and reuploaded it to change credits as they please.
They have not given proper credit to the original artist, have changed the rights to resell to approve, and labeled themself artist of the art.

POST BY USER kye ON THE PSA THREAD IN RESPONSE TO MY POST VERIFYING THIS (LINK)
actually I think you should. i went to go take a look at their account and they reuploaded the character you're talking about so the character permissions are set to can be resold. screenshot album link. new character page link.

it looks like they just did that too and were in the process of reuploading all the art when I nabbed screenshots. maybe you could let the original designer know what's going on? if you know who it is ofc

POST BY USER SquidsInTheAttic ON THE PSA THREAD IN RESPONSE TO MY POST VERIFYING THIS (LINK)
Skullkin has since deleted the character Candyghouls traded them, left off the original artist and is now putting themselves down as the artist of all of the art on the character.  The ownership page now reads that they can gift, trade or resell the character.

I've linked the original and re-uploaded pages.  I've since reported the re-upload to the admins.  Please note there are nsfw images on the pages as I've left them unedited.

https://sta.sh/21qg770b7mwa?edit=1

Re-uploaded character: https://toyhou.se/2911845.pending

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I have sent a PM to Lagena directly to ask about their adopt TOS and if it okay for Skullkin to be selling the design or not.
I will update this with Lagena's response as soon as I receive one.


I have received a response from Lagena confirming that resell is NOT ALLOWED.

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THEY HAVE MADE A NEW ACCOUNT WITH A NEW NAME BUT ARE STILL CONTINUING TO BREAK ARTIST TOS AND DODGE BLOCKS
You can read more about it on Lagena's post here:https://toyhou.se/~forums/5867.service-reviews/81366.psa-beware-user-skullkin-reselling-trades?page=2#post-3053746


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THEY HAVE MADE A NEW ACCOUNT AND ARE FOLLOWING THIS PSA TO BLOCK PEOPLE WHO COMMENT ON IT

Their latest account: https://toyhou.se/starboundlion
Proof they are stalking my PSA and the posts here: https://toyhou.se/~forums/5867.service-reviews/81366.psa-beware-user-skullkin-hammerlockestadium?page=3#post-3189420

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PROOF THEY HAVE NO INTENTION OF CHANGING THEIR WAYS AND STILL INTEND TO SELL DESIGNS EVEN IF IT BREAKS AN ARTIST TOS

This post: https://toyhou.se/~forums/5867.service-reviews/81366.psa-beware-user-skullkin-hammerlockestadium?page=3#post-3189657

And this lovely message on their Hammerlockestadium account.

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LDDarcWolf

Wow, glad I saw this before I considered contacting Hammerlock about any of the pokemon OCs I've had my eye on...

Thanks for posting this PSA! <3 I've blocked both of their accounts here and will not interact with them in the future unless they have been diligent in no longer doing such deplorable acts.

FaeKat-Trade

Unsure if this is any use but here is another account of theirs

https://toyhou.se/starboundlion

nekomancy

Anyone who posts in here is blocked by them immediately so don’t be surprised if they block you after posting, folks!

nekomancy

Fuber64 I never said anything about the new account though ^^; That should be added to the PSA of course.

Movin_2_new_accoiny

Here is when I interacted with Hammerlocke

Message 1

Message 2

And here is the Character I was messaging them about

Character

Their excuse is that they couldn't find any T.O.S saying they couldn't sell the Character, so they believed they had every right to sell it for money if they wanted to when the creator didn't make profit off it and neither did I.

While it was transferred from them to another person with the note saying "trade" they could have sold it and attached that note or they could have simply traded it off after realizing no one was gonna buy it for the price they had it set to (10USD)

Regardless if they traded it or not, they had the intentions to sell it and didn't care if they were not allowed to as when it was traded to them all value it held was simply gone, as they didn't pay for it to begin with.


pixelbutter

>_>" my art is their icon and im not the most comfy with that now i know that they did this, idk if i should message them or like..

pixelbutter

Fuber64

Sorry for not explaining - they didn't steal it, from me, since i drew it as an art trade for them it probably still is within their right to use it, im just uncomfortable w/ people that do this using my art