Debates & Discussion Between Merida Kax & Ezri Dax
The Debates Between Merida Kax and Ezri Dax on Tumblr RP.
The Ezri Dax account has unfortuantly been taken down and I have lost acess to the Merida Kax Tumblr account. Though most of the conversations are either still readable from that blog or from the word documents that I was using to edit my responses.
Unfortuntly their end of two discussions (the one regarding Robo Server Alex and Doom Wads in the Holodeck) along with the mention of Merida regarding Gagh are lost.
Debate Regarding Trill and the Federation
Ezri Dax
Trill isn’t occupied by a foreign power. It constitues part of that power. It is a legitimate member planet of the Federation and is allowed to still wield significant internal sovereignty. It’s just when it comes to interplanetary issues that Trill - and all member states - answer to each other to support each other about far-reaching issues.
The Klingon high council has been coercing certain members, those within and without the Council to cover up the crimes for its leaders. My ex-husband, Worf, has been one of those manipulated into protecting the identity of traitorious and power-hungry leaders. I’d like to believe that it was only the threat of the Empire splintering that kept him from exposing the corruption, but it was also that he turned his back, for a long time, on his empire and its dealings.
We would be allowed to leave the Federation, but by now, our space is surrounded by Federation space. We could become the Switzerland of the Alpha Quadrant, but really, how effective is neutrality when you are enclave? It’s merely a title then. (Switzerland was an Earth country famed for its unwavering neutrality for over two-hundred years, even amidst two world wars. It is now part of a larger, consolidated political entity in the Northern Hemisphere of Earth called the European Union.) (( I hope no one gets offended by this fictional historical projection. ))
It might be possible… or it may just be dissenters. I’m not going to spout propaganda. I just want to say that I am proud to serve in Starfleet and serve the Federation, even despite the sometimes amoral decisions of Section 31. I am aware of the Federation’s problems, as far as what I’ve observed since its inception, but I believe in many of its principles. Call me a romantic, but I believe in and want equal civil rights and liberties for all, equal opportunity, freedom of speech and of the press, peace, cultural and technological exchange. I also believe in the Prime Directive -noninterference with the internal development of alien civilizations. I know that even the most innocuous principle can have a dark side, but then that makes such a debate moot. I choose to serve to better the quality of lives around me, and I learn along the way about some methods I thought may have worked but do not in certain outlying situations.
I would welcome you to Trill and to see the Federation. I hope I can introduce you to my friends.
My fifth host, Audrid, was head of the Trill Symbiosis Commission a century ago, but It’s odd that I do not recollect any knowledge of a symbiont named Kax. How old is yours? It’s possible that it is a relatively new one or it may have spent time in the Symbiont pools.
Kax is a few decades off four hundred but I don't know it's exact age and it's had several hosts before it and hasn't been in Symbiont pools since first being joined. I'm surprised you haven’t heard of it but perhaps the Kax Symbiont doesn’t exist in your universe or has a different name.
Merida Kax
The Federation could still influence or change Trill policy if Trill were to do something they didn’t like, is that truly independence or sovereignty?
It sounds more like a problem with the current leadership then the Klingon Empire or Klingon society in it self. Why did this Worf turn his back on his own planet and empire? is it because he felt betrayed by it? Or did he have another reason.
It could be merely a title and nothing else, or it could be a chance to have full control of your foreign affairs.
In my universe we maintain our independence and neutrality while at the same time interacting with other worlds and sometimes keeping the peace between them. We haven’t always been completely neutral we’ve twisted treaties in order to favour the powers that have our interests at heart and isolate those who don’t, but this common policy for diplomacy I’m sure the Federation does that as well. I think we’ve done well as an independent power but then you may think differently.
Yes, I look forward to meeting your friends and seeing your world.
Kax is a few decades off four hundred but I don’t know it’s exact age and it’s had several hosts before me and hasn’t been in a Symbiont pool since first being joined. I’m surprised you haven’t heard of it but perhaps the Kax Symbiont doesn’t even exist in your universe or has a different name.
Ezri Dax
It’s not true sovereignty, no, or we wouldn’t be part of the Federation. But we have been happy with the arrangement, since we are free to leave. The freedom of self-determination is there, as much as it can exist now. The Federation isn’t trying to forcefully usurp our culture or anything. Maybe it won’t work out in a century or two, maybe it will. But right now as things stand, it’s very rewarding to be part of a union of different species, serving aboard starships with them, being intimately acquainted with them, sharing our wealth of knowledge… it’s a wonderful thing in many ways.
It may pose a risk to our culture years down the road… but who is to say what should or should not be preserved? It’s just one way things work out. Maybe Trill might be better of sovereign or it might not or it may not matter much - maybe both ways will work out. Who knows. I’m relatively happy.
No, the problem is not only with the current leadership, unfortunately. It has been this way for many cycles. The culture was once dynamic and can be so again, but that would mean, keeping in tradition, that constant war would be a way of life. Then there are those, like Worf and General Martok, who believe that allowing the Klingon empire to keep expanding unchecked will only serve short-term stability for the Empire. They are trying to find a middle ground. And that’s what I think needs to happen more. There needs to be some change and advancement, not stagnation in perpetuating old norms and values despite a change of context that may not be conducive to them any longer. I would think you’d tend to be particularly fond of a ‘non-static’ philosophy ;).
Perhaps it has a different name. If that is the case, then I think only you could be able to tell. It would be interesting to discover its alternate name. I hope it is alive.
Merida Kax
It does sound like it has it’s advantages but being independent can bring the same, our neutral status allows us to serve with different species as part of exchange programs and mercenary work, share knowledge that they wouldn’t be used against us and yes having intimate relationships with them as well.
Of course if they continue to fight constant wars against everybody would make them an enemy of the entire galaxy. However I couldn’t imagine the Klingons being warriors with nothing to fight, you’re not saying that the Klingons should stop being warriors are you?
What other kinds of changes do you think should happen in the Klingon Empire other then finding more middle ground with negotiations and so on?
It would be interesting to find out it’s name and where it is but I don’t know how that would be done I might not have even been born in your universe so it might not have even been joined to me. Unless, does the Federation have an archive of citizen names? perhaps you could find my own name on there.
Ezri Dax
I’m not saying Klingons should stop being warriors. But then again, the Federation is a warrior culture in its own right. We’re just more of a defensive type. When provoked, we retaliate, but we do not actively go looking for conquest. At least not in the same way… we conquer with the promise of technological advancement and ideas. A popular criticism of the Federation goes: once a civilisation gets in bed with us, it’s too comfortable for them to get out. We’ve thus been accused of being no better than the Borg - effectively, speaking only - when it comes to assimilation. Some even think it’s worse because we use our consciences to dictate the direction of our civilisation, whereas the Borg just think and do what’s in their nature. And if that’s the case and we virulently deny that we insidiously assimilate with one face but gladly accept the outcome with the other… well… but again, there are only a few people who think that manipulatively. Manipulation is a necessary tool - sometimes an evil - of survival, but I’m more of a straight-up kind of person and I really do not like to resort to manipulation. Persuasion, as a form of manipulation, but with honesty, openness, and the acceptance of refusal. And I support and follow my superiors who think the same way.
I’m saying they’ll need to knock it down a peg, basically, if they’re to have any allies. If they don’t want allies, then I guess we’ll cross that bridge when we come to it. Time has proven once and again that a conquering, expanding force will reach a tipping point whereby it has grown too far (usually, too fast) to keep its conquered systems in check. Ignite a fire, and you have a revolution on your hands.
Besides that, I’m not exactly sure. I’d say, internally, there needs to come about a greater self-reflection into the issue of cultural dynamism vs. stagnation - for starters. I’m not saying they have to become a race of scholars and poets, just a greater openness of though around internal struggles instead of corrupt politicians covering their crimes and abusing the traditions of honor and integrity by bending it to serve their own selfish aims. Those are beautiful traditions and I would like to see them preserved but for there to be a way that they can without the stagnation and corruption that is present now. I believe people like General Martok, Worf, and Worf’s son, Alexander Rozhenko, are the future of the Klingon Empire. Warriors, but those tempered with the original values that Kahless forged - the so-called “true heart” of the Empire. That is the expression Klingons use in my universe.
I would be happy to look into the matter, Merida. (( How do you want this to play out? Do you want Ezri to find your alternate? ))
Merida Kax
So the Federation does conquer through ‘kindness'then, maybe those who make that criticism are right even if it becomes cheap with the Borg comparison.
Despite what you’ve said before it’s clear that the Federation has complete control over Trill’s foreign affairs and a certain amount of control over our domestic affairs as well, How much internal sovereignty does Trill really enjoy in your Universe?
Your at war right now, did Trill want to get dragged into this war? And if the Federation went to war again would Trill be able to question the reasons behind the war or would you just have to go along with it? These are questions you should be asking yourself.
Of course Manipulation is necessary for survival and diplomacy as well, my Trill has had to use manipulative strategies in order to both maintain our independence and survive, I wouldn’t call that evil just a necessity. But does the Federation use it’s manipulation for good? Or for it’s own self-interests and control.
Yes it sounds like that the true heart of the empire should restored but how would Martok, Worf, and Alexander go about removing this corruption? I would personally suggest a purge of some kind after all there has been successful purges before in Klingon history. But what do you think?
Thank you
((Well I don’t know really, I don’t know what Merida Kax would be like in the Prime\ USS tumblr universe. Probably much like she is now but there would also be quite a few differences obviously.
I haven’t even decided what her past hosts were like that much, I’ve come up with some ideas and that’s it. So a lot of Merida is very undeveloped at the moment, one of the reasons I started this was to flesh out her character more.
I know I should have thought this out a bit more but in the view of keeping character and all that, I thought that it would be something that Merida would probably ask about almost straight away when meeting a parallel universe))
Ezri Dax
I never said it didn’t have significant influence and I’ve established that Trill, in my universe, does not have full sovereignty over its affairs like it would if it didn’t involve itself in an intergalactic federation. But control? No, the Federation doesn’t. There are strict guidlines, the Prime Directive being foremost, that prevent any forceful interference in the internal matters of state amongst Federation worlds. I say forceful because the culture of the Federation will permeate and change Trill culture. It already has. Is it bad? In some way yes, in other ways no. I think that’s all that can be said. However, of course, at some point, the vices would outweigh the virtues by anyone’s calculation, if the Federation were to tighten the proverbial noose around Trill’s internal affairs. Or any other member planet’s. But if that were to happen, you can bet there’d be an uproar. The Federation would be betraying one of its pillars - to respect individual planets’ rights to govern their internal affairs, aside from military deployment. But everyone is on equal playing field there. It makes it unlikely for say, Betazed, to attack Trill. We have many more allies this way and we may have to sacrifice having our own private army, but we do so in order to work as a collective. But a collective that uses an old Terran system of checks and balances to seek a middle ground between fewer interplanetary alliances and total hegemony. All I can say is that I think it works pretty well so far. The more I have contact with other non-Federation cultures the more I learn about the Federation. More weaknesses and strengths come to light. So yes, I do see the merit in self-governance and I would not want the Federation to take over the entire galaxy, say. Fat chance of that ever happening. But it works now and it works fairly well.
I find that there are many things I can learn from serving with other species, and better ways of exploring the universe through a multilateral effort. Starfleet provides that opportunity. That is the appeal this system has for me and the main reason why Trill and other planets have joined the Federation.
Your at war right now, did Trill want to get dragged into this war? And if the Federation went to war again would Trill be able to question the reasons behind the war or would you just have to go along with it? These are questions you should be asking yourself.
We are at war right now, yes. We would have eventually been dragged into the war whether we wanted to or not. The Dominion is bent on controlling the Alpha Quadrant because the Founders (changelings) have made it clear that they will not trust humanoids. They may not conquer every humanoid civilisation in this quadrant. But, if left unchecked, they would become the dominant power and they would remain so for a long time due to their technology and cloning facilities. I do ask those questions to myself. There have been times where Trill has disagreed about going to war before, such as with the Klingons about a century ago (that’s why Curzon, my former host, was sent to Qo’nos as a last attempt at facilitating diplomacy). But more times than not, it’s been a benefit to work as a collective. We’re stronger, in terms of defense, working closely with our allies than alone, but there are times that I do lament a certain level of cultural distinctiveness as we had before.
By its definition, manipulation is used to maintain one’s self interests and control, so there is no choice between that and using it for “good”. There are always corrupt people who come into power and so there may be a few individuals or a certain time in history where the Federation performs less nobly.
I always hope a non-violent solution can be implemented. Say, a purging of certain laws that enable the corruption to continue. But I understand that from a Klingon’s perspective, a purge can be seen as a noble thing. Either way, corruption eventually finds its way back. I think that it’s more effective, in the long run, to enact solid laws and their strict reinforcement than it is to have posturing through bloodshed. Again, I can understand the idea of nobility from dying a warrior’s death and the romanticism of a purge, but purges will always create bitter enemies out of those who survive it. On the other hand, corruption can stew pretty badly when you know how to manipulate a legal system and its system of reinforcement so… sometimes a little violence is necessary I’ve realized.
I’m not sure why this host is having so much difficulty in accepting using violence for necessary means. It’s more than a little frustrating with a war going on and having killed people already… I’ve been performing Vulcan meditations and thinking of how to find inner peace, but I don’t want to do that and become detached and cold - killing without remorse. Or is it more accurate to say that killing without conscience is bad? As remorse is only the emotion we feel. But I would think that detaching ourselves from it may serve to sever our link to morality. But then again, morals are so subjective so is it better to follow logic like the Vulcans do? GAH. I’ve got so many questions for Ambassador Spock when I get back.
(( Okay, I’ll follow your lead on that issue. Glad to help you flesh out her character :) ))
Merida Kax
We have the opportunity to serve with other species, after all we do have allies and we make contact with other civilisations on issues we have are both having. There are also of course species that choose to live in our colonies and on our homeworld. Of course we’ve been to war as well with over planets but that was to claim back colonies that were previously ours, that happened a few decades ago and we aren’t at war with those planets any more.
I assume that the Dominion started the war then, where did they come from and is my Trill in any danger of being attacked by this Dominion?
Say if the Federation went to war that the government on your Trill feels is unjust, you would still have to along with it wouldn’t you? What elements of our culture did you have to give up of the Federation influence?
But what if it’s manipulation of larger powers to ensure a larger conflict doesn’t start out? or the manipulation of other powers in order to make sure they don’t attack you? Aren’t they examples of just manipulation? After all isn’t all diplomacy and politics manipulation to some extent?
I say they should do both, purge the corruption of the council and an enactment of solid laws in order to prevent further corruption. It would be the honourable thing for the Klingons to do and it’s happened many times before in Klingon history, just this time they might put a few laws to stop further corruption as well.
Hell the federation could even influence some of those laws to be more in their favour, after your previous hosts was married to this Klingon Worf so he must have been involved with the Federation somewhere. Having a Klingon with pro-Federation views start a coup d'etat in the Klingon high council could be very beneficial to the Federation and I’m not insinuating that you’re going to put a Federation puppet as head of high council or saying that you should but still.
If your enemy is truly bent on destroying you then you should have no problem in killing them it is after all self defence. There is nothing wrong in defending yourself against an aggressor, you won’t become detached and cold you are doing what is necessary.
You still have your friends, family and allies you’ll stay close to them, so there’s no danger of you becoming this cold unfeeling monster that you think you are turning into. After all it’s a cold universe out there and sometimes it’s a matter of kill or be killed.
(( Your welcome :)
Well I require some help, As I said I had some ideas for some previous hosts of the Kax Symbiont and I had a great idea for one and one whose influence on Merida I could even bring into this debate, a sort of Trill verson of Peter the Great with similar politics (I.e. making Trill a power while visiting other galactic nations like the Empire Klingon and Romulan for inspiration on how to improve Trill, like Peter did with Russia) and Drinking and partying habits ((i.e. Drinking a lot and even getting diplomats drunk so they would spill their secretes, being very promiscuous and so on) an interesting former host who gives some more background to this AU and Merida, as well as adding to the in character debate.
This of course sounding great until I realised how much like the character of Curzon Dax this sounded and if this was Merida’s previous host then Merida Kax would sound very much like an AU Jadzia Dax which is something I wanted to avoid so how do you think I could avoid that and have this person as Merida’s previous host?))
Ezri Dax
That’s very good to hear! :)
Yes and no… relations were already strained from the start because the Founders really despise the humanoids and distrust them. Though, that distrust has been warranted on some accounts where innocent changelings had to endure ridicule and contempt by the humanoids they came into contact with. The Federation, on the whole, had a touch and go reception of them, and things actually did look to be fairly promising for a brief period of time when the Dominion seemed to give relations a bit more thought. But what forever changed any hope of cementing an alliance was the joint Obsidian Order and Tal Shiar attack on the Founders’ home world in the Gamma Quadrant. Betazed has just fallen… and Trill is already being attacked by the Dominion as we speak. Even Earth was attacked. Starfleet headquarters was partially destroyed.
Yes, we’d still be obliged to go to war, unless we withdrew our membership. Official protests would be made first, but if we withdrew and promised to stay neutral, that’s what would happen. The Federation I know today wouldn’t just turn on Trill then. They’d probably ask us to come back. Who’s to say what would happen at that point. But there’d always be negotiations of some sort. Well, one thing is that Earth pop culture has, since joining the Federation, become widespread on Trill. Our peoples have shared similar ideas, social norms, humor, and values, so their culture became easily enmeshed in ours. We still hold onto traditions such as the zhian’tara, though.
What I mean is, by strict definition, I see manipulation as a tool. It’s like your gun. Your gun isn’t moral or amoral. It’s the person who wields the gun that uses it for just or evil purposes. So to attribute ‘good’ or ‘evil’ to the tool (manipulation), is, I feel, a technical fallacy. But I just want to point that out. It’s a common mistake to make. I see what you mean, though - if you imply asking if I agree with using manipulation to those ends. My answer is ‘yes’. My former host, Curzon, was actually a Federation ambassador to the Klingon Empire. He trained under my universe’s Sarek of Vulcan.
Yes, Worf has been serving in the Federation for many years now. At my urging, he took some time to think over what I told you earlier about the state of the Klingon Empire. From what I’ve heard while on Cardassia, he challenged Chancellor Gowron to a duel and defeated him, thus making himself Chancellor. But he gave up the seat to General Martok, another man whom I trust will be a fine leader. Worf never sought power, but only to be remembered, to live on through a family line. Now that is the heart of the Klingon Empire right there: glory for remembrance’s sake. Not for the sake of power. He’s one of the best men I’ve ever known…. *sighs softly* I miss him…
Ah but at any rate… I… don’t really like the sound of putting a Federation puppet as the head of the high council. I do see the benefit… but were you not just arguing for self-determinism for the Klingon Empire? It would seem cheap to do that to them. I would like them to remain allies with us on their own terms.
Truer words were never spoken… I just worry because one of my former hosts was a serial killer. I’ve had to kill already and sometimes I feel the same urges he felt. I don’t want to and I’m frightened, but I do everything I can to control it. Still, it hasn’t been getting much better. Everything I’m doing with the Vulcan meditation, I feel, is only enough to keep it at bay sometimes. Am I weak of mind? Probably. I’ll admit. I wasn’t prepared for the Joining like other Trill were. But I will fight to be able to say that I can still function as a properly joined Trill. And for more. For myself. Yes. You are absolutely right. What works the best is to remind myself that I’m fighting to protect those that I love.
(( He does sound like Curzon (and even more nefarious, which is awesome, tbh!), but I mean, I think it’s completely acceptable for some Trill to have had similar past hosts. He wouldn’t be an ambassador, but a head of state, I take it? Similar professions, but still reasonable. I get a Khan Noonien-Singh vibe from him a little. Maybe that could be an inspiration.))
Merida Kax
How did you get to the Gamma quadrant? That’s thousands of light years away and is that where the Dominion is located? If so then how did they get to our quadrant? Why did the Cardassians and Romulans see fit to try and destroy the Dominion?
Starfleet was founded on earth well that explains a lot, it explains why there is no Federation in my Universe for the nuclear wasteland I’m in right now is earth. It seems in my world Earth almost completely wiped themselves out and never recovered.
This only makes me more suspicious of the Federation from what I see of earth it’s a savage brutal planet were it’s inhabitants are still fighting, enslaving and killing each other for the ruins of their planet. Where those in power performed experiments on people who took shelter from the bombs. Maybe your Earth is a lot different from this one and I certainly hope so.
The Federation would probably put a lot of pressure on Trill wouldn’t they?
Earth culture you mean like Nuka Cola and such or is earth culture completely different in your Universe. But seriously I don’t have a problem with outside culture, in fact it can enrich a culture further.
My former host Lorent Kax a powerful figure in the Trill government introduced a lot of culture and ideas from civilisations such as the Klingons, Vulcans and Romulans to Trill. He often went on trips to the governments of other planets where he learned about the way things were run there.
What he learned from both Klingons and the Romulans he used to strengthen the Trill military into a more formidable force. He loved Klingon culture apart from the religious aspects as he always hated religion even traditional Trill beliefs such as Mak'relle Dur annoyed him, but then he didn’t like tradition either.
So the crisis in the Klingon Empire is over then,if General Martok is a capable Klingon Leader I’m sure he’ll start a purge of the corrupt officials and restore the honour Klingons had. But please resist your feelings for Worf, don’t commit reassociation be more promiscuous and start new relationships, reassociation as I said before is clinging to the past.
As I said I wasn’t arguing that you should really go ahead and put a puppet leader in the Klingon Empire, I was playing devil’s advocate on that one and also showing you what some Federation officials might be thinking. But as Worf who had the connection to Federation has chosen not to take power that won’t be an option for the Federation anyway.
(( That’s good. Peter the Great was probably a lot like Curzon or at least a Russian version of Curzon, you know there’s an entire article about his drink habits online, well Peter was a tyrant as well as reformer in Russia so probably a bit like Khan Noonien-Singh too.))
Ezri Dax
I’d say that I’m not at liberty to tell you because I wouldn’t want any information I give to radically alter your universe. A simple exchange of ideas, however, already led to your Spock to alter the course of the Terran Empire significantly. Unfortunately, the more peaceful reforms he instituted left the Empire vulnerable to the Klingon-Cardassian alliance, leading to this wasteland you speak of. It sounds terrible…
I’m sure you would be able to figure it out if you have not already. Question is if the wormhole that exists in our reality exists in yours. It’s a stable wormhole that connects the Alpha and Gamma quadrants over 70,000 light years. The Cardassians and Romulans sought nothing more than a preemptive strike against the Dominion before they gained footing in the Alpha quadrant.
My universe’s Earth is radically different. Poverty and disease have been eliminated. Earth nations are at peace. It’s pretty much a utopia. Nearly all of the Federation worlds share the same technology, if not the same prosperity. Why are you suspicious of the Federation? Is it because you don’t trust human nature?
I think they call it Coca Cola over here. The name has an interesting origin. The beverage was crafted in the late 19th century, originally as a medicinal drink. The “coca” part comes from the use of coca leaves, what cocaine is made out of, and the “cola” denotes the use of kola nuts. Coke was promoted as a patent medicine, which would cure all nervous afflictions such as headaches, Neuralgia, Hysteria, Melancholy, etc. Kola nuts were often used to treat whooping cough and asthma, both quite prevalent at the time. The caffeine they contain acted as a bronchodilator-expanding the bronchial air passages. … What do they put in Nuka Cola? Should I even ask?
I agree, learning about outside culture can enrich one’s own culture further, and I’m glad we see eye-to-eye on that subject. Your former host sounds a bit like mine, Curzon Dax. He also loved Klingon culture, and like Lorent, he did not care much for religious beliefs. He respected them, but just didn’t believe in them himself. In fact, many of my hosts were never ones for upholding traditions or believing in religions all that much. It took a very long time for my former host, Jadzia, to be able to look at the aliens that live in the wormhole as more than aliens. She began to believe in them as the Bajorans do, as demigods. I still share some of the same feelings, but I find myself less sentimental about it. I see them as spiritual guides, but I feel as though I have a deeper understanding because of her leap of faith. I should explain here that they are beings that evolved from a species akin to Bajorans. I’m not sure why - it may be partly because of that - the aliens have taken an interest in gently uplifting the Bajoran people.
Can you tell me a little more about Lorent? He sounds like an interesting and very intelligent character. Did he serve in the capacity as ambassador? Or did he serve as a soldier, fighting with the Klingons and Romulans? Sounds like the latter if he was so familiar with their military tactics.
Merida Kax
Earth in this universe destroyed it’s self through nuclear war between two of it’s major powers I haven’t heard of any Klingon or Cardassian involvement. They did have a group called the Enclave who might be like Terran Empire, they attempted genocide around hundred or so years after the nuclear war and their group existed before the war. I met one of their top agents once and he told me that if they knew of any extraterrestrial on earth they would make sure they all died. So it’s a good job they don’t know about me.
If the Dominion is coming through a wormhole then why not destroy the wormhole, no wormhole no way for the Dominion to get through. You may loose a connection to the Gamma quadrant but you would save many lives in the processes and stop the Dominion from controlling the Alpha quadrant.
From what I’ve seen of earth in this universe humans are pretty untrustworthy it may different in your universe but still. Earth definitely sounds a lot different though.
It’s called Nuka Cola because it has small amounts of radiation to the drinks and some ‘special’ brands of Nuka Cola even glow in the dark.
I can see now why Jadzia was flushed out of the program, perhaps they saw a weakness of mind in her the kind that makes you see some aliens as gods. I like my former host have a distaste for religion and spirituality, perhaps even more so.
Even if a 'god’ was to come before me now and prove to me that they are divine I would not worship them, I am the maker my own destiny not some supernatural being or higher power.
When you start bowing to some imagery 'gods’ you become a slave to that which really exists life! After all why should I fear life? Because it’s life that makes your flesh throb. Life feeds your feelings, and if you aren’t strong you’ll be defeated when you face it.
Lorent Kax was a larger then life figure he was leader in the Trill government but he often acted like more of an ambassador then a leader. He constantly took trips aboard to over civilisations, one of the reasons was to find out more about how the great powers ran their nations. At first he did so in disguise but he later started to go more openly.
At the time Trill was very weak militarily so one of the things he did when he went aboard was to find ways to strengthen our military, so we could defend ourselves and also take back some of the colonies that had been taken from us. So he went abroad on diplomatic missions, studied their military tactics and ship designs in exchange for . These reforms allowed us to take back several colonies like the ones on Caldik and Temecklia that the Tzenkethi coalition had taken from us.
Though socially he could be a menace he hosted wild drinking parties in which sometimes the guests were not allowed to stop drinking or go to bed until Lorent was ready to. He even held parties like this when he was abroad and gained a reputation for trashing the houses he stayed at in his drunken parties. He his own drinking group with one of it’s rules being that nobody is to go to bed sober. He was very promiscuous as well he used to take mistresses, and if planet he visited had any 'pleasure houses’ he would make good use of them, he once even bedding ten people in one night. Though when on other planets he often didn’t pay attention to the rules and this got him in some trouble because of that.
Ezri Dax
Perhaps I was mistaken, then. I thought that since the Terran Empire enslaved other races, such as the Klingons and Cardassians, that once they stopped and shifted policies, the Klingons and Cardassians took advantage of it and formed an alliance, seeking to conquer the Terrans and use them as slaves in turn. Geez. It’s good that you were able to fool him, then. What did you do about your spots, however? Just cover them up? Or do you have a portable holoimaging device that can cover them up so that you appear human?
This solution has been considered and actually was performed. Although, when it was, we had been taken by the Dominion, rendered unconscious, and put through a group simulation. They were using us to determine what we’d do if Starfleet considered an alliance with the Dominion. This was a few years ago when Ben and the rest of us had just been beginning to realise an alliance may never be feasible as tensions kept mounting despite efforts to keep the peace on our part. There was just no trust, as I’ve said before. We could not collapse it because the wormhole is resident to the aliens, remember? They also have been capable of thwarting our attempts. The only thing that was able to collapse the wormhole was a Pah wraith (or so it is called - it’s the same species of alien, but it had been imprisoned in a region of Bajor called the Fire Caves. I know very little of what they are and nothing about how it was able to collapse the wormhole, except that it was able to generate a very powerful gravometric pulse).
Why would people drink something radioactive? I mean, yes, the glowing is kind of cool, but in a place where, I assume, modern medicine is not easy to come by because it is fought over and (presumably) hoarded, why would people subject themselves to something that can be lethal? That’s just crazy.
Jadzia was not flushed out for any weakness of mind… when she shadowed Curzon as his initiate, he fell in love with her and washed her out because he wanted to be with her so badly and since he knew he could not, he never wanted her to find out that he was in love with her. It was Curzon who had the weakness of mind and he eventually did admit to it when Jadzia had her zhian’tara. In fact, in a way, he made her stronger for it. Not that he should have done it of course, but Jadzia became the only Trill in history to be re-accepted into the program after being washed out. She fought all the more thoroughly for it because she wanted to prove she had what it took. What have been some of the high and low points of your past lives? If you don’t mind me asking?
I agree about being the maker of one’s own destiny. But there’s a difference between religion and spirituality. I said that I can see the aliens as spiritual guides. Not unlike the Buddha of Terran culture. But I don’t believe you become a slave to religion if you believe in it. Kira certainly is no slave. She still believes in the Prophets and yet strives to shape her own destiny. It is what you make of it. You can still be religious and a free spirit. I think that’s the main difference between piety and zealotry. And not every religion makes you feel ashamed of your body or feelings or make you fear life. Even ones that seem like it, may not really be the more you go back to their roots. I think it’s just the way some sects have interpreted the scripture many centuries later. Go back to the basics, I think, is what’s needed. All else is… superfluous. Like not being able to eat raw shrimp on the fourth Monday of every month or something like that. Maybe at the time, there was a good social reason for certain things. Limitations, sanitation, anything. But in modern context it is out of place. Too much advice was never cut out because, I think, nobody dared to do it since they didn’t know how to separate the true laws and essence of faith from, well, historical context.
I am happy for your Trill and their rise to power. Lorent sounds like he led an amazing life. I admire his risk taking and genius. That’s something to be proud of. And no wonder I’ve been feeling as though I’ve been talking to someone very smart. Also explains your knack for survival on Earth. The disguise sounds exciting and also a bit like a certain Cardassian I know, Elim Garak. I could see the two of them possibly having some very interesting discussions. What kinds of covers would he have? Would they be assigned to him or would he create them himself? Wow. My past host, Curzon, would be impressed, and that is saying something. Curzon and Jadzia were the party animal hosts of Dax. I sometimes feel the same urges. And sometimes I do let lose, but I’ve turned out more mellow. Sometimes I miss it. In fact, when I get back from Cardassia, I think that certainly calls for a celebration. And there may or may not be cage dancing… *whistles innocently*
Could you tell me more about what the Wasteland is like? Has there been any successful attempts and creating an organised government? Surely I’d think there has been success somewhere on the planet.
Merida Kax
I had them covered up at the time and when I see anyone when I haven’t got them covered up I just tell them that they’re tattoos.
You should have seen this man thought, he was 12 foot tall, in power armour and so buff that he looked more like a monster than a man, I hear he’s genetically enhanced super soldier that they pumped full of steroids in order to create the perfect soldier. He might of existed in your universe as well he was called Frank Horrigan.
So these wormhole aliens are allowing the Dominion to come through? Well certainly they don’t sound trustworthy let alone like ‘gods’. What are they the gods of anyway letting violent conquering empires in your territory and sitting back while their mortal slaves fight for their own survival. You could find a way to produce such a gravometric pulse yourself I heard that the Tigan race was capable of such a feat.
((http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Tigan_%28species%29 http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Gravimetric_pulse I don’t know how Merida would know about this but it was the only Trek related article that came up when I searched for “gravometric pulse” So I thought Merida could use it in her argument))
These Pah wraith are the same species as the prophets so why were they imprisoned? Never the less they a probably just as untrustworthy, I suppose they’re worshipped as well aren’t they?
I think at the time Nuka Cola was being made there was enough medical care available to make up for it, either that or they were just unaware of the damage it was doing. Now after the war most of the food is so irradiated that it doesn’t really matter.
If it wasn’t a weakness of mind that caused Jadzia to believe that wormhole aliens were gods then what was it? Trill society has become free of most of it’s superstitions and outdated beliefs and she kneels to these wormhole aliens.
That still makes you a slave asking a non existent being for advice or to believe that these wormhole aliens have control over your destiny. You become weak because you fear what you don’t know. I am free. Therefore, I am stronger. What is the purpose in belief and worship other then to make you a slave? Did worshipping some wormhole aliens really bring anything to Jadzia’s life apart from illusions and lies?
Lorent Kax would disguise would change for what he need them for he would go diplomat or a student or as an ordinary Trill citizen, this also allowed him to go out and mingle with people in the planets he visited without Being recognised as a member of the Trill government or even as a Joined Trill.
I guess I’m not like you in that regard at all, after recovering from my bullet wound in Goodsprings I spent all my money on drinks in the town saloon and then realised that it was better to save it for things that I would actually need to survive.
I did tell you that I got myself banned from all the Casinos in New Vegas didn’t I? Well that wasn’t just down to my skill at gambling, I also bought an implant from a humanitarian organization called the followers of the apocalypse, that increases probability in my favour. Kind of cheating I know but the money went to a good cause.
The Wasteland is a desert with lots of dangerous mutated creatures, raiders quite a few destroyed buildings and amongst it all settlements trying to survive.
There has been quite a few governments there’s the NCR or New California Republic who base themselves on pre war government they seem well meaning but are incredibly corrupt and overstretched. Most small communities don’t like the idea of the NCR pushing themselves on to them. The NCR have been around for more then a hundred years and are a war with the NCR.
Caesar’s Legion based themselves on one of earth’s first empires, Rome. They are quite like the Klingons in the sense that they have a strong warrior culture and often go charging in with melee weapons rather then use guns. They also like to execute their victims in quite nasty ways but despite this they might be the best bet for bringing stability to the wasteland. I have other things about them though, that they make women sex slaves, ban technology and medicine but I haven’t seen any direct evidence of this yet so it could just be NCR propaganda. If these rumours are true then I will probably loose any respect I have for them.
((Merida does realise what the Legion is truly like later and ultimately goes against them when she finds out that they ban alcohol))
There’s also the Enclave which I’ve already mentioned.