Do you consider NPCs to be OCs?

Posted 6 years, 3 months ago by Isoprene

Here's something I've been thinking about and struggling with for a long time: where do you draw the line when it comes to the difference between an OC and an NPC? Do you draw a line at all?

For example, let's say you have a story/universe that takes place at a school. Therefore, you have to have teachers! But you're not really interested in the teachers' stories, so they're pretty much setpieces. They have a design and maybe a name, but you don't really ever think about them, draw them, write about them, etc. When they appear in the story, it's pretty much to be in the background to remind you that the setting is a school. Some teachers might have development and character, yes, but this one doesn't get that much! The main character doesn't even have classes with them! But maybe there's one scene where their friend is in said teacher's class, warranting the creation of the teacher's design. So... is the teacher an OC of yours now?

As another example, Nolan here is established to have a family of decent size as well as some college buddies. However, outside of his father, the rest of his family and his friends have 0 relevance to the story, so I haven't bothered giving them names, designs, or anything else. But they exist and the story acknowledges that they had impact on his life. So, should I consider them OCs? If not, what if I have Nolan tell someone one of his wacky med school tales and make up a name on the spot for one of his friends? Since that character has a name and some action(s) they performed once, does that make the friend an OC now? What if I have Nolan own a photograph of his family and show it in a visual medium and have him mention the name of a sibling? Should I count that sibling as an OC since they have a design and name?

And don't get me started on making a video game! Would you consider shopkeepers your OCs? What if they all have unique designs, but still no names or notable personalities? What about the innkeeper? And what about enemies? Would you consider each unique enemy design as an OC? Think about your favorite video game, and then think of all of the NPCs in it. If you made that game entirely by yourself, would you consider every design in it your OC?

The list goes on and on! If a character flirts with a barista, is the barista an OC now even if said barista never appears again in the story? Is your character's ex an OC even if their only establishing trait is "they dated this character long before the story began?" Is that bully from high school your character offhandedly mentioned shaped their current personality an OC? Are characters/monsters of the week your OCs?

I made an OC list recently, but I cut out a lot of people because I felt like they weren't really OCs, and instead were just random people who existed to fill out the universe, like random designs to work at a store or enemies of the week. There are more characters I feel like I shouldn't count, too, and others I worry have too much influence on the story/backstories of various OCs to Not count as an OC even if I have 0 interest in them and don't plan to even give them much of a personality, much less anything else.

I don't have too much input here, because again this is something I've struggled with for a long time! It makes all of my OC lists a mess and I always feel like they're simultaneously incomplete because I didn't count Literally Every Family Member and Backstory Character Ever (even if they're dead) and too bloated because I've counted characters I never plan on doing anything with. I'm hoping by seeing others' opinions it might give me a better idea on how to define OCs for myself.

So! What about you? Where do you draw the line? How much character does a character need to have for you to put them on your OC list? Are all "NPCs" OCs to you, no matter how unimportant? Does a character need to have a personality before you consider them your OC, or do they just need a name and/or design? Are you just as conflicted as I am?

Remember, this topic is super subjective! Your answers can only really be about what line you've personally drawn, since as far as I know there's no big ol' enforceable list of OC laws. So, don't be rude to anyone if their opinion on what an OC is conflicts with yours! Not that I'd imagine this is a particularly heated subject, but it's worth mentioning!

Kirbygal

omg, I think I have this issue too. Like for my oc Mylani I imagined him to have a ton of female siblings and cousins, but I haven't put much thought into those girls other than their eye and hair colors which seem to be the only relevant thing about them all (because this serves a purpose in a greater story idea; the oc is mainly brown/red eyed and brown haired, while his sisters and cousins are blonde haired blue eyed) xD Also it doesn't help that I can't come up with female ocs as easily as male ocs lmao ;; 

There's also another character I kinda made up for this set (not one that's on site) but in this story idea he only appeared once and doesn't become so relevant anymore lol ;; however while coming up with ideas I turned one of those static characters an oc XD That's Joutarou. And plus there's parents of my ocs XD I doubt I could make them all; I've only started thinking of a few recently because of my growing affection for older characters xD I've already uploaded one of those kinds, and in the process of drawing a couple more before I upload them.

So in a way I don't really want to call them ocs because they're pretty much static, aside from maybe one or two features that I may or may not develop upon. I consider my ocs to have a design that won't be drastically changed, and has ,most of the basic bio filled out, and a personality that's more than the standard, I suppose. If anything I'd at least have a design on the side, but if I'm not going to use that idea /npc/ potential oc often, then I may just not work on them lol ;; ahh this is  a complicated idea in general and it's making me think about my ocs more xDD to oc or not to oc lmao

I don't know what to say for video game characters; I think some of them were just generic characters to hold that spot but ofc each game is different and some npc may have more personality than others... ;; yeah idk forget it lol

aska-ray

For me yeah "NPCs" are also characters. Mostly because I can't stop. I make an "NPC" and then their story grows out of hand.

Even if I'm making a video game (I am) it'd be hard for me to not make every character unique (it really really is). Every once in a while I have to make up some characters, yeah, but it's sooo hard for me to not give them backgrounds, more personality then "related to Character A", etc etc. I have to actively stop myself ahaha.

Pine_Niidles

There are some long replies aha but I don't have much to say so mine'll stay pretty short. It's cool to read what everyone thinks though! I personally just say that any character you put effort into developing is an oc, regardless of how relevant to the main story they are. If their only role is in other character's stories then I don't count them as ocs, but if I develop their own story then I consider them ocs! That's about it :>

(Though I tend to overdevelop minor characters soooo that's a thing too)

RU-HX

I don't count NPC's as OC's. Fo me, an NPC is a character who I have no interest in developing, writing or drawing but I need them to fill a hole in a plot, an OC is a character I care about enough to fully develop and enjoy drawing/writing. For a character to count as an OC they've got to be what I consider active when I'm interested in their part of a plot. My interest cycles between 5 plots and I'll quiet often focus on different characters but as long as I am interested enough in the character I do eventually come back to wanting to draw/write them and want to continue to develop them, I continue to count them as an OC. 

I did (and still kinda do) have a habit of hoarding and hanging onto characters I have no interest in developing/lost interest in writing/drawing but I liked the design enough to want to keep them around so I do try to be very strict with myself and keep what I consider OC's down to characters I use fairly often and always come back to. It sounds odd written out but I tend to get overwhelmed when my OC count creeps past 30 because they all need art they all need writing and I need to develop them but I have too many to choose from and idk who I want to work with - I've got a better chance of actually doing something with my characters if I keep my OC's limited to no more than 20. I went a tiny bit off topic there but it does feed into why I don't consider NPC's to be OC's.

I have an NPC who's a rear-admiral in my Age of Sail plot - I needed someone for Francis to answer to, he doesn't come up that often but he is there in the background. I needed an idea of his character so I can figure out how OC's involved in that plot react to him but I have 0 interest in developing the him further so I don't count him as an OC.

Another NPC I have is Ilya - he's Lucian's line manager. I need him around because he interacts with Lucian a fair bit when they're working but I hardly headcanon him (if I do he's usually in the background), I lost interest in writing from Ilya's POV and I don't feel the need to draw him. I haven't yet come up with a more interesting replacement character so I've stopped counting Ilya as an OC but I continue to use him as an NPC.

Animaloftheelements

That was something I’ve thought for a while now too, especially considering how I usually think of ocs in context of games. Hell, even most of my ocs in TH would be considered NPCs in a video game setting, but I try to do more with them anyway to help me flesh out my worlds and get a better idea of what I’m working with. It’s a stupid mistake I’ve made and makes me do so much more work that I don’t need to do but I still have fun with it sometimes.

So I guess what I’m saying is, any character I decide to add at least an occupation and personality to, I would call an OC. Doesn’t mean that they make any huge impact on the actual story, just in the world they live in. And within OCs I would rank them as “primary/main” “secondary” or “background/designs”

Titheling

They're ocs but they might not make it on a list of fully developed ocs the same way. Similarly there are background characters, primary antagonists and protagonists and characters who are more aesthetic rather than written developed - more for art and all that. Ultimately npcs can develop into a more front and center role but they are original characters, just might not necessary have any focus.

TBH I don't actually put up most written characters of mine. I don't even get art of them unless they're rp characters of mine. I am less comfy with that - I don't like concrete designs I like the writing to speak for it in a sense.

Caine

To me NPCs are the same as OCs, and I usually end up thinking about their life at least a little bit! Which can get kind of overwhelming sometimes because I like big casts and a lot of social contacts, but I think it's fun and doesn't stop me from prioritizing and focusing on my main characters! 

I don't think I have anything special to contribute to this discussion because others have said it better & I have super simple feelings about the topic really, but I think for me where I draw the line is art? Like I know it's physically impossible for me to draw EVERY single character I have ever created including the background characters and that's why I need to prioritize the more interesting / crucial characters over those who might not be all that interesting for the story itself. Of course sometimes I end up making an unimportant NPC into something bigger and if people show interest in some NPC I usually give them a ref then but yeah, art is what makes the rules for me basically. 

AlleycatIrony

i do consider my NPCs as OCs but not enough to make full profiles for them, if that makes sense! like i don't wanna have a heap of profiles of just family members or whatever but they're still well developed enough to be OCs :0

tim-in-a-box

I'm not an artist so I just consider all of the characters in my comic /characters/ O_O I only make difference between /main characters/ and /non main characters/

pleg

I,, don't really 

I think I draw the line at who has profiles and who doesn't. Like all my ocs have family members and they have names and some even have drawings and designs but I don't really count them as ocs. Even though they are characters that I've made there's just a fine line between character and oc for me even if they are the same thing for most