Damien Schmidt (Icarus) (Dami Cyrus GunCrossfireFight)

Concept information tab about gun: https://toyhou.se/6629575.damien-schmidt/26087027.dami-cyrus-guncrossfirefight There are nothes about haruna, victor and damien here. About damien promising victor to handle haruna if it goes too far. and about how haruna and vic can connect: https://toyhou.se/6629575.damien-schmidt/26087828.damienpromisevictoraboutharuna

Victor Draft: https://toyhou.se/12789441.victor-kowalczyk/25986760.new-canon-conceptdraft

This is a placholder/Reminder to not forget about the gun scene

This is EXTRMELY WIP! superficial information.

I have lots of notes in a document and scattered on toyhouse. To avoid spending energy rewriting what i remmeber i will wrote notes for now, so i know what to look for so i dont miss anything

I got lots of notes about this topic. so this is meant as a reminder to not forget importance of the gun. ----------------- What the gun does :

The real purpose of the gun. When and why it was made Timeline: Safe haven and changed Combining science and magic

It's meant to penetrate mechanic and organic (since for all he knows, a villain could be using robots or have a strong armor. or in ty's case. strong invulnerability. I think the main focus was to damage/hurt a deity/monster/supernatural. maybe even specificly for tyrek (if damien was starting to suspect, or just wanted to be on the safe side that his family could protect himself if something happened to him. or if he released deity haruna and was killed. leaving the responsibiility for his family to fight deity haruna. i think it's meant to be a very open gun in who it's meant for. and if the target is someone with powers. it disabled the persons powers /tyreks last strenght was to rip of lu's arm before his powers faded completely) making ty unable to get the mask off since ty melted it to his face and used his powers to keep the mask on ty's face. ------------- why dami gave the gun to cyrus cyrus leaves when damien takes away his acess to the science lab + stops training cyrus. to meet cyrus in the middle. damien gives cyrus a gun. something for cyrus to defend himself with + he knows the gun wont be enough to handle the oni masked villain, especially if he has henchmen with him. there isn't enough bullets for that. he hopes cyrus never had to use the gun (which damien talks about) but he wants cyrus to have a chance at protecting himself. especially since he knows he won't be able to stop cyrus from investigating the oni masked villain and is guaranteed to put himself in danger. he already got in danger, and they lost lu. and there was the poison incident. and if damien suspects ty might be blackmailed or something is used against ty to make him hurt schmidt (since damien felt ty gave off the energy of someone who doesnt want to hurt his family. he was extremely upset when dami talked about the poison incident)

------------- What happened to give cyrus the chance to shoot tyrek

- if tyrek was serious about the fight ot wanted to kill them. they would be dead in split second. but because he does his best trying to scare them into stopping being heroes. dragging the fight out to traumatize them (also messing with tyreks own ptsd and mental state) - tyreks mental state (disassociating, third time he has to prolonge a fight to scare cyrus (he fought lu 2 times) he doesnt like hurting people he loves. and he sees cyrus as a kid too. and tyrek is strongly against that. he has ptsd. so he does his best to block his emotions. and he is emotionally exhausted following haruna. and the fight probably also triggers his ptsd in safe haven. Forced to hurt people or seeing young kids die around him in safe haven. i bet seeing lu and cyrus in weak state were they both think they will die. will mess with him.'

the gun also looks normal. damien changed the gun since safe haven time. + cyrus was unable to pull the trigger earlier in the fight (and ty saw that in his eyes. since he gives him a chance to shoot him in the head. i think he even dares him to shoot. but he can tell cyrus doesnt have it in him that moment to do it.

+ there is lu's illusions combined with tyrek disassociating/not paying attention -----------------

I lean on Cyrus shoots Ty. There are some notes about this in crossfire fight

Who it will impact Tyreks family (impacting cyrus guilt even more) Cyrus living with the guilt that him shooting tyrek enabled lu to kill him Cyrus will carry a lot of guilt that he is the reason someone died. And it gets worse when he finds out Ty is family to his friends.

Victor ( Good and bad. The good part is that it ruined victors plans since he revealed his identity to the group. Which also played a role in his downfall, that his plans was interrupted by the group. Minimizing the damage he would originally done if they hadn't found out about victor being allive + they picked up something was wrong with victor. the bad: Tyreks death might have fueled Victors plans even more, his sense of security ruined to see tyrek with be killed. He didn't expect to see Tyrek die of anything beside old age because of that powerful invulnerability. Tyrek dying made victor want to protect the people he loves even more. Resulting in Tyrek accidently killing victor since neither stopped fighting one another Vic: fighting to protect the people he loves and make the world safer ty: fighting to protect the people who doesnt consent to loosing their powers. Both vic and ty are in emotional and physical pain fighting one another because of their past and current bond.

Victor might have tried to kill haruna (once he found out what caused tyrek's death. and this might be were victor and damien makes a deal about damien will handle haruna when it comes down to it.

----------------- Alternate possibilities about when vic tries to kill haruna (its possible victor might have tried to kill haruna when he lost his family and damien stopped him back then. And this plays a role why Victor hid his identity. He didn't think he could trust his friends about his plans.

alternate reality victor (it's canon a alternate reality is hunting her down and leaves haruna alone, trusting dami to keep his word about destroying the soul if it becomes neccesary suicide squad fight. Vic might have tried to kill haruna when he fights ty ( i'm certain she is in danger during the suicide squad fight. and i think tyrek saves her. or its damien.

nightstalker organization, haruna soul and victor being present. i like the idea of vic MIGHT vaguely mention the promise as a hint to damien to release deity haruna (IF victor is there during the fight and if he remembers the promise damien made.

its about victor saying something to tell damien to destroy the soul without the organization understanding it. or they misunderstand his comment. he might say " release the souls" and they arent aware it's selcouth (i lean on icarus is holding selcouth too after suciide squad fight. There is lots of concepts abotu this. i will post a tab about this incident going in details about this topic. it sounds silly shortened like this dfsfds

----------------------------------------------- The Gun location after crossfire fight Either is still with Cyrus. Or with Victor ---------------------- Does victor use the gun on damien?

I currently lean on he doesn't. since ty is quick to shove him in portal. IF vic tries to harm damien he will give warnings before he does. But i have other concepts about why vic doesnt hurt damien and why icarus doesnnt intervene against victor. He is focused on taking down monsters. Like theme about balance, ty is quick to move vic somewhere else. etc

One plot hole is "if icarus is immune to magic, why doesnt he fight vic?? it would have been entirely different story" but i dont want to take away ty and vics moment/arc. Icarus allow some chaos to happen if the world is imabalanced. which i think explains most. + its possible vic fears icarus immunity, so he sees its better to focus on ty (who is keeping him busy anyway)

IF victor use the gun. It will have partial effect that it had on tyrek/osiris. The magic part wont impact icarus (it MIGHT impact damien if he doesnt have omni energy powers yet. but its possible dami might have had immunity to energy in the past? or that icarus use his powers to protect or save damien) I think the science part will impact icarus.

i think the balance concept and vic being icarus frien is enough (i will post tab were i go in details about it)

One thing that might be interesting is IF vic uses the gun. that will be damiens fear of his own inventions being used against him or anyone he loves. (it will be only damien who gets hurt or maybe lu. i lean on damien since he is threat by being able to make energy creatures and he can make as many he wants by using energy around him. he won't canonly go that bananas (he might do nuts in nightstalker organization with spirits. so its a ghost town theme) ------------- FOR MYSELF: WHERE I KNOW NOTES ABOUT THE GUN IS: Crossfire tabs/pictures.

cyrus has some notes and links https://toyhou.se/3667853.cyrus-septimus-schmidt-coyote/25754535.crossfire-fight-concept

https://toyhou.se/3667853.cyrus-septimus-schmidt-coyote/25711556.crossfire#78024121

---------------- Where i THINK more other notes are in damiens tab about nightstalker organization and victor victors own tab https://toyhou.se/12789441.victor-kowalczyk/25986760.new-canon-conceptdraft i'm certain i got word document and it will be written in big google documents

i think i wrote in: cyrus paintberri thread cyrus and payton paintberri thread ----------------

sidenote to the gun image I often struggled to find out why Lu would try to kill William. I will make a tab about this. Short summary

If William keeps his body, it will be easier for the nightstalker organization. So I lean on maybe william kept his body but he reached out to schmidt (so he still plays a role in figuring out what lu has done + cyrus also talking about it.

IF william is with arin. Which I lean on is probably canon. I have a good feeling about them. Arin might be the reason lu tried to kill william. it was to protect his family

Or Arin is the reason Lu left william alone.

IF he goes after William and will is with arin. then lu has to repair his relationship with arin as well. Not jsut cy, rakel and damien + other safe haven people.

I got lots of text about this concept too.